Kia Stinger Navigation Map Update

[MerlintheMad]

Thanks for tip to the announcement. They have finally fixed what has been broken since the original version. Only took four revisions and two years (we reported this to KIA before the cars were even delivered in North America).

So, is that a green light" to update my NAV SD card? No fubar with the USB sourced files order or anything like that?

 

[Marc Collins]

So, is that a green light" to update my NAV SD card? No fubar with the USB sourced files order or anything like that?

Read the dedicated thread. This looks like the real deal!

 

[Hapa88]

Just installed mine today. My car came with v12.5 and I just updated it to v13.5. The update also updated all the software and firmware versions, in addition to the maps. Attached are the before and after software information screens.

 

[SteveCo]

The Canadian 13.5 version still is showing as released by not currently available. Hope they're taking the time to fix what they broke with the last one - telematics voice destination lookup for the native navigation system.

 

[Swap_File]

I purchased my 2019 Stinger a month ago and I just realized it came with 12.5. I called the premium support line and requested an update to what was available when I purchased the car and they are mailing me an SD Card for free (I'm assuming it has 13.5).

 

[TERRY LERCH]

I called the Stinger V I P people and ask about my map upgrade. I leased my care 12/13/18 with map version 11.41.51. They said I could get the 13.5 version or wait till Feb and get the next map revision for free. I choose to wait, as Android auto works great so no sense to get the current one.

 

[JAI-STINGER]

I just bought my car 3 weeks ago and it shows my maps are updated to 11.47.44 which I think is like 2 or 3 updates behind, on a new car! I contacted Premium support and they told me to contact the dealer for the new version and if they give me problems to call them back and they will take care of it for me.

 

[Marc Collins]

I just bought my car 3 weeks ago and it shows my maps are updated to 11.47.44 which I think is like 2 or 3 updates behind, on a new car! I contacted Premium support and they told me to contact the dealer for the new version and if they give me problems to call them back and they will take care of it for me.

This was my problem from the outset. How much did you pay for dealer prep/PDI? No one checked or noticed you needed an update before delivery? This would be bad enough if it were just the maps, but it's the main part of the user interface for all aspects of the car that is also out of date (thanks to the dumb design that bundles them together).

 

[Swap_File]

How much did you pay for dealer prep/PDI?

Where would this be broken out on my paperwork? When I purchased my Stinger (2019 GT2 that I leased, and then immediately bought out), it was about 2 hours from arriving onto the lot before driving off. Not exactly much time to prep the car, so coming back for a warranty battery, letting down my tire PSI from 50, and calling in for a map update didn't surprise me much. TBH, I think I knew more about the car (and the incentives) than the dealer did.

 

[JAI-STINGER]

This was my problem from the outset. How much did you pay for dealer prep/PDI? No one checked or noticed you needed an update before delivery? This would be bad enough if it were just the maps, but it's the main part of the user interface for all aspects of the car that is also out of date (thanks to the dumb design that bundles them together).

Can't quite remember the dealer prep fee(thinking it was around $700), but I do remember them setting up the navigation just as I was finishing up the paperwork. I did not think to ask if it was the latest version at the time. My only thought at the time was getting the hell out of there as it was THE worse dealership experience I have ever had! Nothing like Lexus or Acura, Kia has to do better! But I'm confident after speaking with Premium support that it will be resolved.

 

[JAI-STINGER]

Where would this be broken out on my paperwork? When I purchased my Stinger (2019 GT2 that I leased, and then immediately bought out), it was about 2 hours from arriving onto the lot before driving off. Not exactly much time to prep the car, so coming back for a warranty battery, letting down my tire PSI from 50, and calling in for a map update didn't surprise me much. TBH, I think I knew more about the car (and the incentives) than the dealer did.

Just checked my paperwork, It says pre-delivery service change $699.95. Apparently they got paid for doing nothing.

 

[MrSmoofy]

My problem with the maps and updates is they are all crap. Lots of bad navigation and missing roads. I don't even use the built in maps I only use Google or Waze because they are far better then what the built in has. I even contacts the Map company for Kia and they told me they have no plans to improve the navigation or the maps to add all the missing roads in my city. I live in Tampa, FL and the built in maps are useless for me.

 

[Marc Collins]

My problem with the maps and updates is they are all crap. Lots of bad navigation and missing roads. I don't even use the built in maps I only use Google or Waze because they are far better then what the built in has. I even contacts the Map company for Kia and they told me they have no plans to improve the navigation or the maps to add all the missing roads in my city. I live in Tampa, FL and the built in maps are useless for me.

Same here in Toronto area. Even the latest version of the maps is woefully out-of-date compared to Google. Roads are missing. The worst aspect is the speed limit marking--missing on most smaller and rural roads and woefully out-of-date in the city where there have been recent campaigns (over the past 5+ years) to slow things down street-by-street. This major flaw would be avoided had KIA chosen to use the vehicle cameras to "read" speed signs (as Volvo and others do) instead of basing the indicator off the maps database. Before you get snooty and say KIA is not Volvo, KIA already has this technology and uses it on some existing models. It was a just choice (marketing, economics?) to not deploy it on the Stinger.

The fundamental problem is that HERE maps require users to update all this stuff and it is a relatively clumsy interface and slow turn-around time for updates. I did a few myself as a test. Assuming HERE eventually gets around to the update, then there is a delay before KIA picks it up and then there is a further delay before a KIA owner pays for (except in certain "lucky" countries who get them for free) and acquires the update.

The whole scheme is an embarrassment that suggests poor planning and comprehension of electronics, or, laziness assuming everyone will use Android or Apple anyway so why bother implementing it properly. I'd have no problem with the laziness if they were charging an appropriate optional price for the built-in nav...but instead we are paying through the teeth for an incompetent system. Even a handheld GPS would be better in several ways.

The criminal aspect of it all is the bundling of the UVO interface ("operating system") with the maps updates. All interface updates should be free and auto-update like most vehicles (even ones like Ford). The maps are a different story, but I think most people expect free maps updates when you are paying such an excessive cost for the system in the first place. You get (vastly better) Google or Bing maps updates for free while paying much less for the "system" they operate on.

 

[MrSmoofy]

Same here in Toronto area. Even the latest version of the maps is woefully out-of-date compared to Google. Roads are missing. The worst aspect is the speed limit marking--missing on most smaller and rural roads and woefully out-of-date in the city where there have been recent campaigns (over the past 5+ years) to slow things down street-by-street. This major flaw would be avoided had KIA chosen to use the vehicle cameras to "read" speed signs (as Volvo and others do) instead of basing the indicator off the maps database. Before you get snooty and say KIA is not Volvo, KIA already has this technology and uses it on some existing models. It was a just choice (marketing, economics?) to not deploy it on the Stinger.

The fundamental problem is that HERE maps require users to update all this stuff and it is a relatively clumsy interface and slow turn-around time for updates. I did a few myself as a test. Assuming HERE eventually gets around to the update, then there is a delay before KIA picks it up and then there is a further delay before a KIA owner pays for (except in certain "lucky" countries who get them for free) and acquires the update.

The whole scheme is an embarrassment that suggests poor planning and comprehension of electronics, or, laziness assuming everyone will use Android or Apple anyway so why bother implementing it properly. I'd have no problem with the laziness if they were charging an appropriate optional price for the built-in nav...but instead we are paying through the teeth for an incompetent system. Even a handheld GPS would be better in several ways.

The criminal aspect of it all is the bundling of the UVO interface ("operating system") with the maps updates. All interface updates should be free and auto-update like most vehicles (even ones like Ford). The maps are a different story, but I think most people expect free maps updates when you are paying such an excessive cost for the system in the first place. You get (vastly better) Google or Bing maps updates for free while paying much less for the "system" they operate on.

At least your UVO has some value here in the US there is no reason to ever install or use it as it does nothing.

 

[MerlintheMad]

This major flaw would be avoided had KIA chosen to use the vehicle cameras to "read" speed signs (as Volvo and others do) instead of basing the indicator off the maps database. Before you get snooty and say KIA is not Volvo, KIA already has this technology and uses it on some existing models. It was a just choice (marketing, economics?) to not deploy it on the Stinger.

Go on. Kia knew that most Stinger drivers would be going too fast to see the speed limit signs, so ditto the camera.

At least your UVO has some value here in the US there is no reason to ever install or use it as it does nothing.

My TacFone doesn't even interface with UVO, even though TracFone pairs seamlessly to the car via Bluetooth.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

Probably a dumb question but.....I just tried to download my free update and found out that it can only be downloaded to a computer that has Windows 7 or newer. What did people do to get the update for those who use a MacBook Pro like I do?

 

[moinmoin]

only be downloaded to a computer that has Windows

Got no friends with a Windows PC?
Apple Store?
macOS - Compatibility - Apple (CA)
Run Windows on Mac - Parallels Desktop for Mac

I am sure there is more...

 

[westcoastGT]

Got no friends with a Windows PC?
Apple Store?
macOS - Compatibility - Apple (CA)
Run Windows on Mac - Parallels Desktop for Mac

I am sure there is more...

Hey M , what is the image in your Avatar ?? Curious minds need to know ??

 

[moinmoin]

your Avatar ??

Danish Badehus - because I like the design and colors!

Google

....and you are getting curious after some 2 1/2 years?

 

[westcoastGT]

Danish Badehus - because I like the design and colors!

Google

....and you are getting curious after some 2 1/2 years?

..........I'm a slow learner !