Check this out!!! (ECS control module)

[Jacques]

@xot1, since you swapped back to stock, would you consider installing aftermarket springs, but keep the stock shocks? Or, will you stay completely stock suspension, except for the Eibach stabilizers (swaybars) with the Mando moving forward?

 

[xot1]

@xot1, since you swapped back to stock, would you consider installing aftermarket springs, but keep the stock shocks? Or, will you stay completely stock suspension, except for the Eibach stabilizers (swaybars) with the Mando moving forward?

I think I will keep it like this.
A friend of mine has the same setup with eibach downsprings and his ride quality is much worse. It has probably to use a different profile adapted to the different spring rate but until someone finds it, I am keeping my stock springs.

 

[Rango]

Just purchased the Mando ECS10. Gonna be a fun filled install day sometime next week! Big shout out to xot1 for sharing this great discovery and to those posting who have installed this module. My brain is swelling with Mando info!

 

[itguy61]

Just purchased the Mando ECS10. Gonna be a fun filled install day sometime next week! Big shout out to xot1 for sharing this great discovery and to those posting who have installed this module. My brain is swelling with Mando info!

I did too, no idea how fast it will get here though.

 

[Waynerm002]

I purchased mine at 1:12PM on a Thursday (Friday 1am Korea time) 12 Sept., delivery ETA said 24-30 Sept., and it was delivered the following week on Tuesday the 17th. Pretty quick in my book. If I ordered it on a Monday it would probable arrive teh Wednesday from what I've been reading here.

 

[itguy61]

Cool, I ordered on Thursday it has not shipped yet.

 

[Cyrus Duong]

Mine came in, going to find some time to document pictures/maybe a video on install today, and playing around with it. Probably ok to write my review in this thread? Will probably post during the week after I've gotten some experience with it.

 

[Rango]

Mine came in, going to find some time to document pictures/maybe a video on install today, and playing around with it. Probably ok to write my review in this thread? Will probably post during the week after I've gotten some experience with it.

A video on an install would be fantastic! Frome the posts here, the install looks pretty straight forward, but can never get too much guidance on Stinger projects.

 

[Cyrus Duong]

Check this out!!! (ECS control module) - Page 12

Turns out it's actually as straight forward as @KLR STINGER shows. I was trying to do it on my own, but after finding these it's basically what I did minus removing the front trim panel under the steering column. Should any part of this confuse you or you feel like you need more info I can give my 2 cents or go back to the garage and snap a few pics or videos if you'd like.

I will say for the ground/grounding nut you can pop the left piece of trim off with a little bit of pressure from your hand through the fuse door/opening. This will uncover the nut for you to ground easily.

Here's a video: https://photos.app.goo.gl/mhiWMFgL1Jc2Mh7XA

So from this picture: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xPKFiAEWyUzFDhMh8

Basically pull the door seal towards the back of the car. Then stick your hand through the fuse door opening and push the trim piece out towards the front door. If you start at the bottom should pop out pretty easily. There are 4 snaps you need to pop out in total. Once you get the bottom out you can use a pry tool or your fingers (be careful not to pinch them) to pull the rest of that trim piece off.

 

[Gtecko]

Anyone in Canada interested , I am ordering tpms from a Korean seller and is offering ECS as well, I will order next week, let me know

 

[Rango]

Thank you so much for your post @Cyrus Duong! Love guys like you who take the time to post on this forum with detailed instructions! Hope your day was bright and relaxing! Following this thread for sure!

 

[MerlintheMad]

correct. However that only applies for the 2019s

For the 2018s is only for GT2s

Not true. The MY18 GT1 has ECS.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I can't see anyone using 100% setting on the streets for too long, that would be too much stress on the body and the car would also suffer.

Really!? This app is a threat to the warranty, then.

So, I think that what you are reacting to are noticeable changes, not an actual risk (but I'm only responding to what I'm reading: I've been through this whole thread over the last couple of days).

I think the car can take whatever this dishes out, or else the manufacturer would be guilty of exceeding the design specs.

 

[SteveCo]

I think the car can take whatever this dishes out, or else the manufacturer would be guilty of exceeding the design specs.

The car was designed to take what KIA programmed for the permissible operating range on the shocks - this tuner takes it well outside that range.

I don't have this module, but did experience what I believe to be 'full stiff' performance when I had a brief episode of ECS failure - fortunately a quick computer reset at the dealer took care of that. I wouldn't have wanted to drive very far on that setting - it crashed on bumps like an unladen heavy truck.

The manufacturer IS exceeding KIA's design specs, much like the engine tuners are doing with either ECU or piggyback tunes. The risk is ultimately with the purchaser who decides to modify their car.

 

[Cyrus Duong]

Thank you so much for your post @Cyrus Duong! Love guys like you who take the time to post on this forum with detailed instructions! Hope your day was bright and relaxing! Following this thread for sure!

Anytime mate. Trying to help where I can . You too

 

[MerlintheMad]

The manufacturer IS exceeding KIA's design specs, much like the engine tuners are doing with either ECU or piggyback tunes. The risk is ultimately with the purchaser who decides to modify their car.

That is the arguable part: some dealers refuse to install aftermarket tune equipment; or work on cars that have it, threatening that warranty is being risked; other service departments have no issues with either. And now we have evidence that the drivetrain is way underused on the stock car; that in fact it can handle a lot more than Kia set up the stock car to do. So wouldn't that be true of the entire car? The Mando ECS isn't likely to exceed what the suspension can handle, unless someone actually abuses their car while in "stiffest" mode. A dreadfully stiff/rough ride isn't going to get used by any sane driver: but it might get tracked: and we know what Kia's warranty says about that! Tracking a car is "abusing" the car from a warranty standpoint. But playing around with real world road conditions won't risk anything.

 

[Manaz]

That is the arguable part: some dealers refuse to install aftermarket tune equipment; or work on cars that have it, threatening that warranty is being risked; other service departments have no issues with either.

This part is down to either a misunderstanding of how warranties work, or just sheer pig-headedness. Remember that unless you're talking about a dealership warranty (ordinarily only a factor after factory warranty has ended), the dealer is only an agent for the manufacturer, and ultimately doesn't have the final say in whether you get a warranty claim approved or not (though they may have some influence).

Adding an aftermarket item cannot invalidate the entire warranty on the car. All it can do is create cause for consideration as to whether the aftermarket item contributed to a specific failure on which warranty may be claimed.

As an example, adding an ECS10 control module to your car cannot cause you to be unable to claim warranty on an engine failure due to a failed turbo. Similarily, adding a JB4 piggyback tuner cannot cause you to be unable to claim warranty on your sunroof.

An ECS10, however, could be a consideration in a warranty claim if you had a suspension failure, as that failure could be caused by the dampers operating outside of the factory-specified parameters.

In a different fashion, you cannot claim any warranty from Kia on aftermarket parts, either directly or indirectly. So if you have an aftermarket item on the car and a stock part fails and causes damage to that aftermarket part, you cannot expect Kia to replace your aftermarket part - only the stock part which has failed.

 

[xot1]

You can always remove the module and there will be no trace of it. But who would wants to use 100% stiffness anyway?

 

[Dominicstg2]

Has anyone in australia got this and fitted it

 

[Manaz]

You can always remove the module and there will be no trace of it. But who would wants to use 100% stiffness anyway?

Maybe on a billiard-table-smooth racetrack. Certainly not on any public road I can think of!