Burger Tuning JB4 for Kia Stinger!

[Revvdmedia]

I was looking to see if Boostane was available in Canada via local retailers or Amazon and it doesn't look to be. There might be other options but not sure how many others are out there (Royal Purple has something). Too bad, some of us might be stuck on Map 2 since the highest pump gas around is 94 octane, and even that is quite rare. I guess there is race fuel at the track...lol. We also seem to have nothing in a lot of Canada for E85 too, I haven't seen it anywhere I've been.

 

[turboAWD]

Thanks StungBlueGT2. That's the kind of info I was looking for. Now I just have to figure out how much boostane I need in a given tank..

Found this:

It's too bad about the "use premium instead of pro" advice above. Does it really only affect spark plug color? Pro requires less additive, AND is about half the cost of premium, if you buy in bulk. Starting with 91 octane, getting to 93 is decent - about 2.5 oz per 15 gallon tank - or around $3/tank for premium boostane. Getting to 96 takes ~2.5 times as much, or 6.5 oz, about $7-8/tank. Plus, a much bigger safety gap. So, based on this, if I were to try this, I think I might try 2-3 oz/tank to get to 93 and run map 2.

Or just wait until E85 is better supported - there's an E85 station around the corner..

 

[turboAWD]

I was looking to see if Boostane was available in Canada via local retailers or Amazon and it doesn't look to be. There might be other options but not sure how many others are out there (Royal Purple has something). Too bad, some of us might be stuck on Map 2 since the highest pump gas around is 94 octane, and even that is quite rare. I guess there is race fuel at the track...lol. We also seem to have nothing in a lot of Canada for E85 too, I haven't seen it anywhere I've been.

Be very careful about that "Sunoco 94" in Canada - I used to use it all the time when I lived in Ontario and be all happy. Only to find out that, based on actual comparison tests, tuning, etc, most Canadian 94 acts more like US 91-92. Log, log, log is all I can say..

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I was looking to see if Boostane was available in Canada via local retailers or Amazon and it doesn't look to be. There might be other options but not sure how many others are out there (Royal Purple has something). Too bad, some of us might be stuck on Map 2 since the highest pump gas around is 94 octane, and even that is quite rare. I guess there is race fuel at the track...lol. We also seem to have nothing in a lot of Canada for E85 too, I haven't seen it anywhere I've been.

Unless Canada uses different version of Amazon here is a link to each version.
Boostane Premium-https://www.amazon.com/BOOSTane-Pre...t=&hvlocphy=9012050&hvtargid=pla-571826021257
Boostane Professional-https://www.amazon.com/BOOSTane-Pro...A67Y9VAK219&psc=1&refRID=9TW1MA4A4A67Y9VAK219

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Thanks StungBlueGT2. That's the kind of info I was looking for. Now I just have to figure out how much boostane I need in a given tank..

Found this:

It's too bad about the "use premium instead of pro" advice above. Does it really only affect spark plug color? Pro requires less additive, AND is about half the cost of premium, if you buy in bulk. Starting with 91 octane, getting to 93 is decent - about 2.5 oz per 15 gallon tank - or around $3/tank for premium boostane. Getting to 96 takes ~2.5 times as much, or 6.5 oz, about $7-8/tank. Plus, a much bigger safety gap. So, based on this, if I were to try this, I think I might try 2-3 oz/tank to get to 93 and run map 2.

Or just wait until E85 is better supported - there's an E85 station around the corner..

You're very welcome and happy to help.

I agree with your statement about Premium vs Pro and dont know enough about each version to say much more. From what I read both versions have their proprietary ingredients so neither should effect the plug color too much, but sure the concentration of MMT in the Pro would increase that buildup slightly.

Might be worth trying the Premium for only $3 a fill-up and see how well it works. Then just play it by ear to see if Pro is needed or worth going up to the 96 octane.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

@Terry@BMS can you give your thoughts on this:

How to launch on boost

 

[Shrikecorp]

Thanks StungBlueGT2. That's the kind of info I was looking for. Now I just have to figure out how much boostane I need in a given tank..

Found this:

It's too bad about the "use premium instead of pro" advice above. Does it really only affect spark plug color? Pro requires less additive, AND is about half the cost of premium, if you buy in bulk. Starting with 91 octane, getting to 93 is decent - about 2.5 oz per 15 gallon tank - or around $3/tank for premium boostane. Getting to 96 takes ~2.5 times as much, or 6.5 oz, about $7-8/tank. Plus, a much bigger safety gap. So, based on this, if I were to try this, I think I might try 2-3 oz/tank to get to 93 and run map 2.

Or just wait until E85 is better supported - there's an E85 station around the corner..

If it helps anyone, I did a little quick reference chart because I have access to 92 pump everywhere and that's pretty much it. So extrapolated a bit based on the above chart and just calc'd for getting 91 and 92 to minimum 96 (because 87, no).

 

[Revvdmedia]

Unless Canada uses different version of Amazon here is a link to each version.
Boostane Premium-https://www.amazon.com/BOOSTane-Pre...t=&hvlocphy=9012050&hvtargid=pla-571826021257
Boostane Professional-https://www.amazon.com/BOOSTane-Pro...A67Y9VAK219&psc=1&refRID=9TW1MA4A4A67Y9VAK219

This seller does not ship to Canada. We get that a lot on Amazon.com lol.

 

[xot1]

I just did few pulls after deleting the primary cats.
I have no clue about how many ponies the car makes, but it feels like a beast now!

I attached one log.
Timings seem okay, but around the end, boost levels are quite high. Should I be worried?

What is the next step to be even faster? FMIC or Intake?

 

[Terry@BMS]

I just did few pulls after deleting the primary cats.
I have no clue about how many ponies the car makes, but it feels like a beast now!

I attached one log.
Timings seem okay, but around the end, boost levels are quite high. Should I be worried?

What is the next step to be even faster? FMIC or Intake?

Logs look great, no over boosting at all. Timing solid in all cylinders. Maybe the stock intake is helping keep boost down? I'd definitely try that next!

 

[xot1]

Logs look great, no over boosting at all. Timing solid in all cylinders. Maybe the stock intake is helping keep boost down? I'd definitely try that next!

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Ok, I will add this to my shopping list. Thanks!

Edit: I understood the wrong way, keeping stock intakes may be a good idea.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I just did few pulls after deleting the primary cats.
I have no clue about how many ponies the car makes, but it feels like a beast now!

I attached one log.
Timings seem okay, but around the end, boost levels are quite high. Should I be worried?

What is the next step to be even faster? FMIC or Intake?

Wow very impressive! So no CEL or overboost without primary DPs?!? How are you doing this when others said they keep having issues? Wonder if it has something to do with the WMI.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Wow very impressive! So no CEL or overboost without primary DPs?!? How are you doing this when others said they keep having issues? Wonder if it has something to do with the WMI.

He has a CEL but in other countrys the JB4 Offers a passive delete just like the LAP3 Pro Tuner. We just cant turn it on here in the US due to emission issues. Hes also not overboosting im assuming because he kept the stock intakes. That are much more restrictive than aftermarket intakes. Weather temperature can may a play into this as well.

 

[xot1]

Wow very impressive! So no CEL or overboost without primary DPs?!? How are you doing this when others said they keep having issues? Wonder if it has something to do with the WMI.

I do get CELs.

He has a CEL but in other countrys the JB4 Offers a passive delete just like the LAP3 Pro Tuner. We just cant turn it on here in the US due to emission issues. Hes also not overboosting im assuming because he kept the stock intakes. That are much more restrictive than aftermarket intakes. Weather temperature can may a play into this as well.

I don't know about the passive delete thing.
There is no such option in the menus.
I just delete the code manually when it appears.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I do get CELs.


I don't know about the passive delete thing.
There is no such option in the menus.
I just delete the code manually when it appears.

Well buddy there is a way for you lucky gents. You have to go under the development options. But as I said its no big deal to delete as they appear.

 

[Terry@BMS]

There is no such option in the menus.

It's on the WMI page and can be selected outside the USA.

 

[xot1]

Ok, I will use it carefully.
Maybe enable it when daily commuting, and check codes the days I drive hard.

 

[Angel]

@Terry@BMS Question for all the JB4 experts that have WMI.

What is the difference between map 5 and map 7. I am trying to understand what they really do on the top end?

Does the WMI map 8 run more boost than the other maps 5/7?

Just trying to clarify some things...Map 8 is the only map that activates wmi?


Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: 4psi over stock peak tapering to 2.5psi at high RPM. Default performance map suitable for all 91+ octane fuels.
Map 2: 5psi over stock tapering to 4psi at high RPM. Suggested for 93+ octane fuel.
Map 3: 6psi stock tapering to 5psi at high RPM. Suggested for high quality fuel including unleaded race gas, ethanol mixtures up to 30%, or high quality octane booster like Torco or Boostane.
Map 4: Valet map, runs around half as much boost as stock.
Map 5: Up to 7psi over stock. For use with unleaded race fuel and/or E85 mixtures up to 30%.
Map 6: User adjustable map. Enter value of boost over stock by RPM on user adjustment page.
Map 7: Up to 7psi over stock but without top end taper. For unleaded race fuel use and bolt on modifications. May not be suitable for E85 mixtures due to high fuel pressure dropping. If using this map on E85 you should be experienced at reading your own logs and evaluating ignition advance and fuel pressure.
Map 8: Progressive WMI (water/meth) map. Increases boost as a function of methanol flow & methanol boost additive. Holds boost low until WMI is flowing to avoid tip-in knock, and reduces boost as a function of WMI flow in the event of interruption like running out of fluid, leak, or component failure.

 

[xot1]

As far as I know you can activate meth for all map, but map 8 is the only map that uses the fail safe feature. Map 8 is the biggest advantage of using the BMS WMI kit.

 

[Angel]

As far as I know you can activate meth for all map, but map 8 is the only map that uses the fail safe feature. Map 8 is the biggest advantage of using the BMS WMI kit.

I would not want to activate meth for all maps. I guess one of my question is when I put map 8 it automatically activates meth and if I switch to map 2 it automatically deactivate meth.