Wheel/size/offset and tire/size/profile...can be confusing.

Before I do something stupid can someone explain why running staggered (ex. 19 8.5 +30 / 19x9.5 +45) why the smaller offalset is in the rear and you don't see 19x8.5/9.5 +30 all around. Understeer? I just want to buy a truck again and go 0 offset and be done with it thanks in advance
I definitely don't want to speak on behalf of everyone here. I am not a tire size expert, but I have been doing some research. It certainly can be . . . confusing.

When staggered, a wider than stock 9.5 tire in the rear needs higher (lower?) offset (>+40) so that the front face of the wheel sits relatively similar in position (flushness to the fender) to where the front wheel sits. This puts more of the tire under the car toward the center and not toward the outer fender.

You can certainly run a square setup if you want, but you're limited to the size of tire that you can run in the rear. If you are AWD this is more advantageous. If you are RWD you are relying on wider rear tires to get better power transfer. AWD Stingers come with 18x8 +34 on all corners IIRC. So a 19x8.5 +30 squared setup should be fine. The challenge comes when you want to go wider and still be square. The front will hold 8.5 at best, some have done 9, but it's close. The rear can hold up to 10.5+ in some cases. The wider the front tire, the more negative offset will be needed to keep away from inner fenders and suspension bits. However, eventually you'll get too close to the outer fender, which may rub and/or stick out or poke. You might look more like a pick-up truck at that point :D

As far handling, the articles that I have found state that staggered with larger rear tires are a "safer" setup because they tend to produce understeer or push through a corner at the handling limit. This safety assumes you have a good run off area. Square setups are more likely to produce a balanced feel, but may lessen the feel of responsiveness on turn-in. It really depends on your goals for the car and driving preferences.

Don't get too discouraged. It's a tough search, but there are some good resources out there. Try clicking through Tirerack or Discount Tire to get a sizing recommendation.
 
I definitely don't want to speak on behalf of everyone here. I am not a tire size expert, but I have been doing some research. It certainly can be . . . confusing.

When staggered, a wider than stock 9.5 tire in the rear needs higher (lower?) offset (>+40) so that the front face of the wheel sits relatively similar in position (flushness to the fender) to where the front wheel sits. This puts more of the tire under the car toward the center and not toward the outer fender.

You can certainly run a square setup if you want, but you're limited to the size of tire that you can run in the rear. If you are AWD this is more advantageous. If you are RWD you are relying on wider rear tires to get better power transfer. AWD Stingers come with 18x8 +34 on all corners IIRC. So a 19x8.5 +30 squared setup should be fine. The challenge comes when you want to go wider and still be square. The front will hold 8.5 at best, some have done 9, but it's close. The rear can hold up to 10.5+ in some cases. The wider the front tire, the more negative offset will be needed to keep away from inner fenders and suspension bits. However, eventually you'll get too close to the outer fender, which may rub and/or stick out or poke. You might look more like a pick-up truck at that point :D

As far handling, the articles that I have found state that staggered with larger rear tires are a "safer" setup because they tend to produce understeer or push through a corner at the handling limit. This safety assumes you have a good run off area. Square setups are more likely to produce a balanced feel, but may lessen the feel of responsiveness on turn-in. It really depends on your goals for the car and driving preferences.

Don't get too discouraged. It's a tough search, but there are some good resources out there. Try clicking through Tirerack or Discount Tire to get a sizing recommendation.
It's not that I want to run square. I would still like to run staggered 8.5F/9.5R it's more that I was wondering 8.5 +30 and 9.5 +30 but you've pretty much cleared it up to fender rub. Appreciate the insight and help.
 
Sorry to be a pest guys, I'll be up front and say I know nothing about tyre sizing and what will work.

I have the following rims:

20 x 9 + 35
20 * 10.5 +38

I've read that 245/30/r20 will fit the fronts
and 285/25/r20 will fit the rears according to the front page of this discussion. However the tyre places I've been speaking to say this will not work.

Any suggestions?

Cheers
 
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Sorry to be a pest guys, I'll be up front and say I know nothing about tyre sizing and what will work.

I have the following rims:

20 x 9 + 35
20 * 10.5 +38

I've read that 245/30/r20 will fit the fronts
and 285/25/r20 will fit the rears according to the front page of this discussion. However the tyre places I've been speaking to say this will not work.

Any suggestions?

Cheers
9 in ET35 is very close to the front strut depending on the wheel I understand that tire installers do not recommend it but many people here are still running this setup without problems. For the rear it will bolt but is a somewhat agressive fitment that will likely rub if lowered.

as for the tires most prefer to run 245/35 and 285/30 in 20in. The sidewall is closer to stock height and it is pretty standard size on some other vehicles. Draw back is you rear is so agressive the maybe smaller sidewall is better in you case.
Depending on your drop you might need to run negative camber and maybe 275 stretched tires....
 
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Hi guys. So I’m planning on getting this setup. Will it work? How much poke will there be in the back? I’m AWD 3.3 on stock suspension.

20x8.5 +35
245/35/20

20x9.5 +35
285/30/20

Wheels: FAST FC04
Tires: Michelin Pilot AS4 or Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 (Any preference?)

Also, since the overall circumference of the wheels will be about 0.7” larger, will I experience any mechanical or traction issues? Or will my speedometer just read lower than what my actual speed is?
 
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Hi guys. So I’m planning on getting this setup. Will it work? How much poke will there be in the back? I’m AWD 3.3 on stock suspension.

20x8.5 +35
245/35/20

20x9.5 +35
285/30/20

Wheels: FAST FC04
Tires: Michelin Pilot AS4 or Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 (Any preference?)

Also, since the overall circumference of the wheels will be about 0.7” larger, will I experience any mechanical or traction issues? Or will my speedometer just read lower than what my actual speed is?
This wheel and tire setup should work no problem and there will not be tire tread poking outside. Many run more agressive setup bu they are usually lowered.

For the tire setup, will be perfect, reduce the gap since you do not plan to lower the car and just slightly impact your Speedo.

Assuming you have a dedicated winter setup you should go with the Michelin. From experience you will loose too much cornering stability with DSW06 especially when they are new. Also the Michelin will be closer to a summer tire on the dry vs the DSW06. DSW06 have impressive snow capacity for a tire it that class but dedicated snow tire is better / mandatory in some area.

This is not my car but it is lowered and I do not know the tire sizes but I would assume pretty much what you are looking for

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Also identical wheels from 305Forged (FT101) but slighly different specs and in 19"
Car is obviously lowered, in fact to much lowerred in the back if you were me.
SIZE:19×8.5 and 19×9.5
OFFSET:+32 and +40

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Also, since the overall circumference of the wheels will be about 0.7” larger, will I experience any mechanical or traction issues? Or will my speedometer just read lower than what my actual speed is?
I assume you meant to say "outside diameter", not circumference. A .7" difference will probably be less than one to two MPH difference, and OD differences do not affect traction. There is a point (far beyond what you're planning) where "mechanical" issues are a stated issue, especially for AWD systems (that's why Kia says to not use different OD front and rear tires). I think that the "wisdom" says not to exceed one to 2% difference in the OEM OD: greater difference starts to get into the area where "mechanical" problems happen: and if you have tires that are more than one percent larger or smaller than the OEM OD, your warranty is probably toast.
 
9 in ET35 is very close to the front strut depending on the wheel I understand that tire installers do not recommend it but many people here are still running this setup without problems. For the rear it will bolt but is a somewhat agressive fitment that will likely rub if lowered.

as for the tires most prefer to run 245/35 and 285/30 in 20in. The sidewall is closer to stock height and it is pretty standard size on some other vehicles. Draw back is you rear is so agressive the maybe smaller sidewall is better in you case.
Depending on your drop you might need to run negative camber and maybe 275 stretched tires....
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
 
I have a question on a set of 20" rims I am looking to get a set of Axe CF1 with the below specs. I have the eibach pro kit so I am lowered. I tried following the shared excel sheet. I'm closest to Staggered option 20C submitted by Tobstertx3. My question is on the fronts his is 20x9+35 is it a big difference for my offset to be 38? What does that 3 mm difference mean exactly anyway?
Front 20x9+38 with Pilot sport 4s 235/35R20
Rear 20x10+40 also Pilot sport 4s 275/30R20
 
I have a question on a set of 20" rims I am looking to get a set of Axe CF1 with the below specs. I have the eibach pro kit so I am lowered. I tried following the shared excel sheet. I'm closest to Staggered option 20C submitted by Tobstertx3. My question is on the fronts his is 20x9+35 is it a big difference for my offset to be 38? What does that 3 mm difference mean exactly anyway?
Front 20x9+38 with Pilot sport 4s 235/35R20
Rear 20x10+40 also Pilot sport 4s 275/30R20
20X9 ET33 is close to the struts, ET35 is very close and ET38 is probably too close.
 
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20X9 ET33 is close to the struts, ET35 is very close and ET38 is probably too close.
Thank you for your response the guy selling the wheels found a smaller rim at 20x9+32 offset. I talked to a local wheel guy who also said that a 235 tire size on a 9" wheel is too small and should go with nothing smaller than 245 or 255. He's looking into their return policy and willing to ship just 1 rim out to see if they'll fit if they'll let me return it if they don't sit well on the car.
 
Thank you for your response the guy selling the wheels found a smaller rim at 20x9+32 offset. I talked to a local wheel guy who also said that a 235 tire size on a 9" wheel is too small and should go with nothing smaller than 245 or 255. He's looking into their return policy and willing to ship just 1 rim out to see if they'll fit if they'll let me return it if they don't sit well on the car.
ET32 should fit and I would agreed that you should go with 245/35 and 285/30. Those are common size in the market also.
 
ET32 should fit and I would agreed that you should go with 245/35 and 285/30. Those are common size in the market also.
So adjusted sizes should be
Front 20x9+32 with 245/35/R20
Rear 20x10+40 with 285/30/R20?
I did a wheel comparison on stock tire sizes and these and what is the tolerance for speedometer for actual speed at a certain mph.
 

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So adjusted sizes should be
Front 20x9+32 with 245/35/R20
Rear 20x10+40 with 285/30/R20?
I did a wheel comparison on stock tire sizes and these and what is the tolerance for speedometer for actual speed at a certain mph.
You can have taller tire and within 3% is considered safe and will not affect car stability electronics but you will go 1-2 mph faster depending on your speed. Also 245/35 and 285/30 are exactly the same size and this is important (at least for AWD).

There are so many people running this tire setup you should not be worried.
 
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Just shared in the "What did you do..." thread, but thought I'd put it here too.

TSW Neptune in matte bronze finish
Front - 19x8.5 ET30 (24 lbs/ea) with Michelin PS4S 225/40
Rear - 19x9.5 ET39 (23 lbs/ea) with Michelin PS4S 255/35

Got them from Getyourwheels.com

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Front:
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Rear:
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Flush :thumbup:
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Wow, your ride must feel terrible... no offence
ride is pretty much the same.. all my cars have big wheels im use to the stiffer rides. just have to look out for pot holes.:sneaky:
 
Stance Sf03
19x8.5/9.5 ET +32 and +38. Nfera 245/35 and 275/30

Lowered on Eibachs. Could of went a little more aggressive, but not much
 

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