Wheel/size/offset and tire/size/profile...can be confusing.

[Jayphil]

I just bought a 2.0 premium Stinger and will be upgrading the wheels/tires when winter is over.
After reading this thread (and the other 50+ page thread) I've decided on a 20x9 +35 wheel, 255/35 tire squared setup. I seen yowstinger has that size wheel/offset and is cutting it real close on clearance in the front. But Since I don't have brembo's will I have the same clearance issue? will I be ok without spacers?

Sometime wheels depending on the spoke design get close the the brembros but what does not change is strut clearance that need to be considered, many are real close with 9" ET35 wheels.


Other aspect is you have a 2.0t, you might want to find a wheel and tire setup that is lighter vs OEM to help on performance (acceleration and braking) and not actually make it worst!

For me the best wheel performance, look and price compromise is 19" staggered wheels (flow formed) with 245/35 and 285/30 tires (Sad that Michelin 4S does not come in that size 285/30R19. Staggered setups usually perform better at the track (balance / lateral grip) for these type of cars and wider rear help traction but of course it come with the fact that you can not move tire/wheels front/back...

Some wheels look really good in 19" and some design look too small for the Stinger and is preferred in 20" for the look. I do find that some wheels look too big for the Stinger in 20", in fact a lot of them especially if the car is not lowerred and not modified to increase the aggressive look of the car (such as lip or spoilers) even more so for 2.0t that are not GT-Line!. Also none brembo cars with 20" make the brakes look even smaller which is not helping the look another thing to consider.

Anyway taste is very subjective and priority vary a lot from each individual: Look, performance (acceleration, braking, lateral etc.), price, be able to rotate front/rear....

 

[YOWStinger]

I just bought a 2.0 premium Stinger and will be upgrading the wheels/tires when winter is over.
After reading this thread (and the other 50+ page thread) I've decided on a 20x9 +35 wheel, 255/35 tire squared setup. I seen yowstinger has that size wheel/offset and is cutting it real close on clearance in the front. But Since I don't have brembo's will I have the same clearance issue? will I be ok without spacers?

It’s not an issue with the brakes it’s an issue with the struts, I also have the electronically controlled dampers which may also be a little different than yours however you’re not going to have any problem with that fitment. Looking forward to seeing pics!

 

[YOWStinger]

Other aspect is you have a 2.0t, you might want to find a wheel and tire setup that is lighter vs OEM to help on performance (acceleration and braking) and not actually make it worst!

The stock wheels are 35lbs each, you literally cannot do worse.

I agree though, definitely definitely check out the 22lb 20x9 American Racing AR924 Crossfire, they look awesome, they’re inexpensive, they’re flowformed. There are a couple of examples of stingers out there on these.

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[Jayphil]

The stock wheels are 35lbs each, you literally cannot do worse.

I agree though, definitely definitely check out the 22lb 20x9 American Racing AR924 Crossfire, they look awesome, they’re inexpensive, they’re flowformed. There are a couple of examples of stingers out there on these.

CROSSFIRE

Designed for the industry’s best, by the industry’s best. Our American Racing has earned the trust of some of the most discerning critics in the automotive industry.

www.americanracing.com

Example of the 20" crossfire in Stagerred setup with 245/35 and 285/30 tires. 9" ET35 and 10.5" ET45

• Front weight saving including tire is 9lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 7lbs
  

Another light and cheap example in Canada are FAST FC04 wheels

FC04 in 19" (8.5" ET35 and 9.5" ET35)

• Front weight saving including tire is 12lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 11lbs

FC04 in 20" (8.5" ET35 and 9.5" ET35)

• Front weight saving including tire is 9lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 7lbs

 

[MerlintheMad]

I just bought a 2.0 premium Stinger and will be upgrading the wheels/tires when winter is over.
After reading this thread (and the other 50+ page thread) I've decided on a 20x9 +35 wheel, 255/35 tire squared setup. I seen yowstinger has that size wheel/offset and is cutting it real close on clearance in the front. But Since I don't have brembo's will I have the same clearance issue? will I be ok without spacers?

Howdy and welcome. If a wheel will fit over Brembo brakes it will fit over the other brakes. So, if you've determined from other cars that a given wheel fits over Brembo brakes, you are good to go.

I've been reading up on wheels and tires at a site linked to from here a couple of days ago. It's very enlightening and might make you think twice before you make a final decision. The subject is in three parts: Wheel Tech, Part I: Wheel Weight Slows You Down | Tuner University

 

[MickeyDee]

Hi ,

I’m wondering if someone can help me establish whether the following will work? If so what tyre size would you recommend?
(rWD vehicle)

Front - 20 * 9 + 25
Rear - 20 * 10.5 + 38

Cheers

 

[B_pvd]

Thanks for the replies...I didn't even think of the weight.

This is my 2nd Stinger (hit a deer with my gt) and the only thing I don't like about the 2.0 is the acceleration. It's only the 2.0 so I'm looking for a inexpensive wheel so I was gonna go with Curva C46 but they're 31lb compared to the 23lb Crossfires...and I like the look of the Crossfires on a Stinger.

My main concern was whether I'd need spacers on the front. I don't mind spacers but I'd prefer to have hub rings without spacers.

 

[YOWStinger]

Hi ,

I’m wondering if someone can help me establish whether the following will work? If so what tyre size would you recommend?
(rWD vehicle)

Front - 20 * 9 + 25
Rear - 20 * 10.5 + 38

Cheers

Those are going to be a little pokey by about 5mm front and rear, some like that look, I’d rather be flush or a tiny bit under.

 

[YOWStinger]

Thanks for the replies...I didn't even think of the weight.

This is my 2nd Stinger (hit a deer with my gt) and the only thing I don't like about the 2.0 is the acceleration. It's only the 2.0 so I'm looking for a inexpensive wheel so I was gonna go with Curva C46 but they're 31lb compared to the 23lb Crossfires...and I like the look of the Crossfires on a Stinger.

My main concern was whether I'd need spacers on the front. I don't mind spacers but I'd prefer to have hub rings without spacers.

Nope, no spacers needed! If you’re going for the square setup and you want the rear to be a little more flush you can OPTIONALLY add some 5mm spacers but they aren’t required.

 

[Buklau]

Example of the 20" crossfire in Stagerred setup with 245/35 and 285/30 tires. 9" ET35 and 10.5" ET45

• Front weight saving including tire is 9lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 7lbs
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Another light and cheap example in Canada are FAST FC04 wheels

FC04 in 19" (8.5" ET35 and 9.5" ET35)

• Front weight saving including tire is 12lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 11lbs

View attachment 54755

FC04 in 20" (8.5" ET35 and 9.5" ET35)

• Front weight saving including tire is 9lbs
• Rear weight saving induding tire is 7lbs

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Do you know the tire specs of both the 19”/20” Fast FC04? Would also running a wheel/tire setup with a larger circumference than stock be detrimental mechanically long term at all? Or would it just have a speedometer error reading? This is my first time researching and buying wheels for a car.

 

[YOWStinger]

Do you know the tire specs of both the 19”/20” Fast FC04? Would also running a wheel/tire setup with a larger circumference than stock be detrimental mechanically long term at all? Or would it just have a speedometer error reading? This is my first time researching and buying wheels for a car.

Tire specs are available in the spreadsheet in the first page for 19 and 20.
My 20” 245/285 combo is oversized, you might get some minor rubbing with this fitment if you’re lowered but it fills out the arches nicely, and as long as the circumference is matched front and rear, it otherwise isn’t going to have any mechanical impact.

 

[Buklau]

Tire specs are available in the spreadsheet in the first page for 19 and 20.
My 20” 245/285 combo is oversized, you might get some minor rubbing with this fitment if you’re lowered but it fills out the arches nicely, and as long as the circumference is matched front and rear, it otherwise isn’t going to have any mechanical impact.

That’s one of the tire choice combos I was looking at. Would the rubbing issue be completely eliminated if I keep stock ride height? I daily drive my car 100-200km per day on average so I can’t lower it. Lol

 

[Jayphil]

Do you know the tire specs of both the 19”/20” Fast FC04? Would also running a wheel/tire setup with a larger circumference than stock be detrimental mechanically long term at all? Or would it just have a speedometer error reading? This is my first time researching and buying wheels for a car.

Unfortunately I do not have what was on these cars but my guess would be that the 19" one kept the factory Michelin Pilot 4 but on the 20" those are Nangang tires and I would guess 245/35 and 285/30 but I am not sure.

 

[YOWStinger]

That’s one of the tire choice combos I was looking at. Would the rubbing issue be completely eliminated if I keep stock ride height? I daily drive my car 100-200km per day on average so I can’t lower it. Lol

I daily drive my car too (not that far) I'm on eibachs and the rubbing is really minor, literally not worth addressing if you can stand it. You will more than likely not rub while at stock height but the fenderwell gap will look more pronounced with lower profile tires. I never ran these wheels/tires at stock height, so I can't say for sure but I would expect that it won't.

Also, I have the electronic dampers, which probably have different damping than the non-electronic dampers. I was entirely unimpressed with the stock ECS settings, so threw the Mando on there which I also love.

 

[Buklau]

I daily drive my car too (not that far) I'm on eibachs and the rubbing is really minor, literally not worth addressing if you can stand it. You will more than likely not rub while at stock height but the fenderwell gap will look more pronounced with lower profile tires. I never ran these wheels/tires at stock height, so I can't say for sure but I would expect that it won't.

Also, I have the electronic dampers, which probably have different damping than the non-electronic dampers. I was entirely unimpressed with the stock ECS settings, so threw the Mando on there which I also love.

So in your opinion, would 20s with lower profile tires make the gap look more pronounced compared to OEM 19”s with a bit thicker sidewall tires?

I’m also looking into Mando ECS10, but I’m wondering if it voids any warranty at all or if it’s very simple to install.

 

[Jayphil]

So in your opinion, would 20s with lower profile tires make the gap look more pronounced compared to OEM 19”s with a bit thicker sidewall tires?

I’m also looking into Mando ECS10, but I’m wondering if it voids any warranty at all or if it’s very simple to install.

lower profile tire looks better with less gap(lowered cars). When you decrease the tire profile by increasing wheel size the gap will look bigger in comparison. For stock spring 245/35r20 and 285/30r20 will look better(and reduce the gap) to me vs 245/30 and 285/25, but anyway those size are too small for good wheels protection.

 

[YOWStinger]

So in your opinion, would 20s with lower profile tires make the gap look more pronounced compared to OEM 19”s with a bit thicker sidewall tires?

I’m also looking into Mando ECS10, but I’m wondering if it voids any warranty at all or if it’s very simple to install.

The assume everything I do voids warranties, but I’ve been successfully not blowing up cars with voided warranties for over 20 years.

I always feel like the ratio of rubber to void is a defining factor for a good stance. As long as there’s less void than rubber the car looks good, if there’s more void than rubber it looks like it’s on stilts.

you can always go with lower diameter wheels with meaty tires, or low slung on low profile tires, but I’m not a fan of rubber band tires with gaps. The best fitment is meaty low profile tires, but that’s really really hard to achieve with our cars

 

[B_pvd]

I also am not going to be lowering my car.

I planned on going with a squared 255/35/20 setup but would 20" 245/35 & 285/30 fill the gap more than the squared setup?

 

[YOWStinger]

lower profile tire looks better with less gap(lowered cars). When you decrease the tire profile by increasing wheel size the gap will look bigger in comparison. For stock spring 245/35r20 and 285/30r20 will look better(and reduce the gap) to me vs 245/30 and 285/25, but anyway those size are too small for good wheels protection.

I also am not going to be lowering my car.

I planned on going with a squared 255/35/20 setup but would 20" 245/35 & 285/30 fill the gap more than the squared setup?

You won’t be able to fit 255/35 you’ll have to go 255/30. 245/35 is a little taller than stock, 255/30 is a little shorter than stock but not by much.

this is my car on eibachs with 245/285 Login • Instagram

 

[Ahillathehun]

I may be the odd man out based on what I've skimmed here, but I wanna drop down to 18s and put meatier tires on, or if I could get away with more rubber on the stock wheels I'd do that.. anyone spoken of or tried this?