Do It Yourself Kia Stinger Oil Change

[Meckman]

This folks is why you don’t let the dumb dumbs at the dealership change your oil. I bought my Stinger used from a Kia dealer and they changed the oil as part of their trade-in routine. This was the first oil change after I picked it up last year. The furthest washer on was kind of a PITA to get off of there.

 

[SKStinger]

This folks is why you don’t let the dumb dumbs at the dealership change your oil. I bought my Stinger used from a Kia dealer and they changed the oil as part of their trade-in routine. This was the first oil change after I picked it up last year. The furthest washer on was kind of a PITA to get off of there.

Haha I guess two crush washers is better than none at all and an over torqued drain plug.

 

[Sybaritic]

This folks is why you don’t let the dumb dumbs at the dealership change your oil. I bought my Stinger used from a Kia dealer and they changed the oil as part of their trade-in routine. This was the first oil change after I picked it up last year. The furthest washer on was kind of a PITA to get off of there.

Hmmmm, you guys have numbskulls at the dealerships in your country too ! This is exactly why I still prefer to do it on my own regardless of warranty consequences. Also, most times, they give the oil change jobs to the apprentices or lube techs; we have kids whose educations need to be paid for, we don't need to pay for the education of a lube tech!

 

[eflyguy]

I'm hoping (and on course) to have the only time I visit a dealer be when I picked it up (check) then drop it off at the end of the lease.

 

[5tinger]

Anyone else notice how it can be tricky to get the filter housing end cap threads to grab the housing when using a new Kia (Mahle) filter cartridge? I seem to fumble with getting it started even though the cartridge is fully seated in the end cap (by pushing it on firmly to open the fleece-like material on the ends of the filter). Wix filters are a little different in design and should go on easier as has been discussed before. So what i did on my oil change today was to install the cartridge onto the end cap and then remove it and reinstall it in the other direction so that the hole on the cartridge end that goes into the housing is pre-expanded and allows the end cap to be threaded easily. Hope this helps someone along the way, especially any less experienced folks attempting to tackle a diy oil change.

Yeah noticed the filter end cap needs to actually get pushed quite firmly into the housing. I was just spinning it and started to panic when it was not grabbing the threads.

 

[StingerLover]

Yeah noticed the filter end cap needs to actually get pushed quite firmly into the housing. I was just spinning it and started to panic when it was not grabbing the threads.

This helps:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07281X76T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_wR6wEbTYG7B6J

 

[runner1]

Can you repost the link, doesn’t work for me.

 

[Rob M]

Yeah noticed the filter end cap needs to actually get pushed quite firmly into the housing. I was just spinning it and started to panic when it was not grabbing the threads.

I completed my 3rd oil change just today with around 18.5K miles. I went with the WIX filter this time, and it goes on and seats so much easier. Filter end cap right on as well. I have one more of the Kia filters to use but will definitely start using the WIX routinely.

 

[Rob M]

$14.88 for 5qts, full syn 5w30. Anyone else use this? Blasphemy?

 

[jellyman]

I completed my 3rd oil change just today with around 18.5K miles. I went with the WIX filter this time, and it goes on and seats so much easier. Filter end cap right on as well. I have one more of the Kia filters to use but will definitely start using the WIX routinely.

Have you noticed any quality difference between wix and oem?

 

[SteveCo]

$14.88 for 5qts, full syn 5w30. Anyone else use this? Blasphemy?View attachment 38749

Oil is only manufactured by a limited number of companies - lesser known brands are simply blends made by the refineries to the customer's specification. If it meets the KIA requirements for requirements/ratings, go for it.

 

[StingerLover]

Can you repost the link, doesn’t work for me.

amazon.ca? Just search Amazon for ARES 71152-27mm.

 

[5tinger]

I completed my 3rd oil change just today with around 18.5K miles. I went with the WIX filter this time, and it goes on and seats so much easier. Filter end cap right on as well. I have one more of the Kia filters to use but will definitely start using the WIX routinely.

The main concern was not to get filter into the filter housing - but trying to screw the plastic filter housing to the main housing. I was just free spinning until I noticed that a firm press is needed to get the gasket in the filter housing seated in the main housing.
Between the plastic construction, bad location & cartridge design - Not the most optimal setup.
Not to mention us RHD Stingers have to deal with the EPS motor right breath the filter housing - which makes it much more difficult.

 

[Rob M]

The main concern was not to get filter into the filter housing - but trying to screw the plastic filter housing to the main housing. I was just free spinning until I noticed that a firm press is needed to get the gasket in the filter housing seated in the main housing.
Between the plastic construction, bad location & cartridge design - Not the most optimal setup.
Not to mention us RHD Stingers have to deal with the EPS motor right breath the filter housing - which makes it much more difficult.

But I think the cardboard (or whatever) end caps on the OEM filters may be obstructing the cap from threading easily. First two oil changes with the Kia filter, it was very frustrating and took several tries to get the threads started. First time with the WIX, immediately grabbed and spun on.

 

[Rob M]

Have you noticed any quality difference between wix and oem?

I have no way of comparing the filtration capability of the two filters. But the WIX filter looks to be of higher quality. The pleated cellulose filtration material is neater looking and is a perty yellow color vs the beige of the KIA, lol. Instead of the paper-looking end caps on the OEM that you have to force onto the filter housing cap in order to seat (and which I believe may make the cap harder to thread back on to the housing), the WIX filter simply snaps into place nicely with its plastic end caps. Fit and finish, the WIX seems better. They are both made in S Korea. The OEM filters are stamped 'Mahle' on the end caps, which may be difficult to read since the yellow ink bleeds into the porous material. Mahle Group is a worldwide powerhouse in automotive parts headquartered in Germany, so the OEM filter is IMO still of good quality. I would be curious as to whether a fleece filter would work with the Stinger, and whether someone will come along and produce one. Probably not likely with the very short oil change intervals recommended by Kia. This time around I set my service interval at 7K miles. Give me a fleece filter option and I'd think about going to 10K miles.

 

[jellyman]

I have no way of comparing the filtration capability of the two filters. But the WIX filter looks to be of higher quality. The pleated cellulose filtration material is neater looking and is a perty yellow color vs the beige of the KIA, lol. Instead of the paper-looking end caps on the OEM that you have to force onto the filter housing cap in order to seat (and which I believe may make the cap harder to thread back on to the housing), the WIX filter simply snaps into place nicely with its plastic end caps. Fit and finish, the WIX seems better. They are both made in S Korea. The OEM filters are stamped 'Mahle' on the end caps, which may be difficult to read since the yellow ink bleeds into the porous material. Mahle Group is a worldwide powerhouse in automotive parts headquartered in Germany, so the OEM filter is IMO still of good quality. I would be curious as to whether a fleece filter would work with the Stinger, and whether someone will come along and produce one. Probably not likely with the very short oil change intervals recommended by Kia. This time around I set my service interval at 7K miles. Give me a fleece filter option and I'd think about going to 10K miles.

Wix filters were few dollars cheaper, so I ordered oem's before I read this thread(thinking you get what you paid for). I will give Wix a try once I use up all oem filters.

 

[Rob M]

Oil is only manufactured by a limited number of companies - lesser known brands are simply blends made by the refineries to the customer's specification. If it meets the KIA requirements for requirements/ratings, go for it.

Yep. For those that may not know.... Super Tech is Walmart's store brand. Warren Distribution is a private label manufacturer that produces Super Tech motor oils (as well as Amazon Basics). They may even be identical formulations. But at $14.88/5qts, Super Tech is hard to beat. It doesn't hurt that it compares reasonably well to the big name oils in performance (and performs somewhere in the middle of them in actual tests).

 

[5tinger]

But I think the cardboard (or whatever) end caps on the OEM filters may be obstructing the cap from threading easily. First two oil changes with the Kia filter, it was very frustrating and took several tries to get the threads started. First time with the WIX, immediately grabbed and spun on.

Yeah plastic won't flex as much i guess when applying force.
But i guess the having oil filter beneath engine does have it's advantages.

 

[Rynil2000]

The Wix filters are definitely superior to the OEM Kia filters. The OEM filters are tough to put on because they essentially rely on an undersized hole in the cellulose/paper end caps to be force fit onto the filter seats to make a seal, where as the Wix filters have a plastic frame with rubber o-rings in each end to make a seal. The o-rings seat easily so no forcing the Wix filters on and no fear of pushing too hard or tearing.

I've been buying my filters through Napa auto parts as the "Napa Gold" brand. Mostly online, because for some reason they are difficult to find in stores. From what I understand the Napa Gold filters are just Wix filters that are being resold under the Napa brand. Plus, each comes with a new crush washer and o-ring seal for the filter housing.

Here are part numbers below if you'd like to look them up:

Napa Gold: FIL 100237 (OE# 263203LTA0)
Wix: WL10237 (OE# 263203LTA0)

 

[SteveCo]

The OEM branded Mahle filters are what Kia recommends - and they are providing up to 10 years warranty coverage (depending on market) for a fairly sophisticated and high output twin turbo engine. If it's what their engineers decided works/flows/filters best for this engine, that's a pretty ringing endorsement for me. I know that Mahle is the specified OEM filter on at least some of the BMW high tech engines as well.

I've never had a problem installing them, or with any kind of degradation when I pulled the old ones out. They may cost a couple more dollars per oil change, which is pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.