buddy712
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Thanks that is my goal as well. Keep a nice quiet car that runs 11sI am not aware of anyone who has done that but it is definitely my goal. 12.12 is the closest I have come to 11s with stock exhaust and stock intake box.
Thanks that is my goal as well. Keep a nice quiet car that runs 11sI am not aware of anyone who has done that but it is definitely my goal. 12.12 is the closest I have come to 11s with stock exhaust and stock intake box.
Cat back only 11.5Is there anyone in the 11's with stock exhaust?
Stock exhaust and intakes are huge restrictions on our car. Trying to push the car that hard without free flowing intake & exhaust is like pushing a watermelon through a tiny straw…Is there anyone in the 11's with stock exhaust?
The stock snorkel is the restriction on the intake side. Once you eliminate that restriction it opens up the intake nicely.Stock exhaust and intakes are huge restrictions on our car. Trying to push the car that hard without free flowing intake & exhaust is like pushing a watermelon through a tiny straw…
I had a JB4 on Map 2 with straight 93 Octane gas. VT snorkels and the AEM drop in panel filters were my only other performance mods. Stock sized wheels, stock exhaust, and stock intake box.You must have some mods to get you to 12.12
Yes the snorkel is part of the problem, but the tiny 1”x 2” inlet into the air box is very restrictive. K&N said there are no power gains with their drop in filters, but theres tons of proof showing 15-25whp gains and dropping 0.1-0.2sec off 0-60 & 1/4m times with just open air intakes. Intakes are one of the best bang for the buck mods you can get for our Stingers.The stock snorkel is the restriction on the intake side. Once you eliminate that restriction it opens up the intake nicely.
There are gains to be had in modifying the exhaust. However, you don’t have to remove CATs to be really fast. Some of the fastest Stingers have minimal exhaust changes.
Those are pretty good results, but no doubt you’d be in the 3s 0-60 and 11s 1/4m if you simply added real intakes and catback/muffler delete. Hard to pass up those performance gains when you can easily do them for only $300 total like I and several others did.
I honestly don’t think that is true. I have looked through dozens of logs of people who have truly open air intakes. The one common characteristic I am seeing is that their IATs decrease very little if at all throughout 1/4 mile pulls if they don’t have WMI.Those are pretty good results, but no doubt you’d be in the 3s 0-60 and 11s 1/4m if you simply added real intakes and catback/muffler delete. Hard to pass up those performance gains when you can easily do them for only $300 total like I and several others did.![]()
Spot | Stinger | 1/4 Time | Trap | 1/8 Time | Trap | 60' | Date | Mods |
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1 | Joel Williams | 11.111 | 124.55 | 7.156 | 98.99 | 1.629 | 9/7/2021 | AWD, JB4, Map6, Lozic ECU, Lozic TCU, CPI, CAI, Intercooler, Down Pipes |
2 | @AWDGT2 | 11.139 | 122.99 | 7.136 | 98.21 | 1.568 | 4/8/2021 | Jb4,MAP 6, Agency Intakes, Agency FMIC, WMI, MBRP exhaust, BMS snip, JA Air scoops, Renagade fuel. |
3 | @Kato_the_kia_stinger | 11.180 | 124.20 | 7.220 | 97.01 | 1.687 | 3/21/2021 | GT AWD, JB4 Map6, JT intake, WMI, GT9 Catback, Ark Mids, Wagner FMIC, MS103, BMS brake snip |
4 | @gingfreaccs | 11.188 | 124.05 | 7.209 | 98.34 | 1.679 | 6/17/2021 | Lap3 ECU, Protuner, WMI, Lap3 Downpipe, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, stage 3 TCU w/ hyper launch control, Stock Mid pipes, 93+E85 |
5 | @TheDangOne | 11.272 | 124.49 | 7.297 | 97.38 | 1.646 | 5/9/2021 | AWD, JB4, WMI, Down pipes, FMIC, Borla, Injen intakes, BMS snip, HKS |
6 | Yaroslav Ossipov | 11.281 | 124.90 | 1.742 | (Russian track no slip) GT2 AWD, Motec, Pure turbos, catless, Perin FMIC, K&N intake, Vibrant exhaust, 100 octane, Motec launch control | |||
7 | @ScottyCole | 11.296 | 123.91 | 7.306 | 97.96 | 1.729 | GT1 AWD, Tork Stage 2 ECU tune, K&N Intakes, Ark Mid, Borla, Catback, UP FMIC, WMI, BMS brake snip, 93 E20 octane | |
8 | @Tonkabob | 11.466 | 122.70 | 7.45 | 97.33 | 1.830 | GT2 AWD, Tork Stage2 ECU tune, WMI JB4 controlled, Ark catback, JT intake, UP FMIC, E30, Launch control | |
9 | @madhouse | 11.488 | 120.27 | 7.387 | 94.99 | 1.640 | GT AWD, Jb4, Injen intakes, Borla exhaust, secondary bypass(dump valves) Bigger big mouth intakes, fmic, WMI, BMS brake snip, E30+93 | |
10 | @Crewdawg130 | 11.548 | 122.05 | 7.490 | 96.66 | 1.719 | GT2 RWD, Hybrid turbo, JB4, WMI, FFP intakes, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
11 | Angel David | 11.575 | 119.91 | 7.450 | 94.17 | 1.584 | RWD, Lap3 Pro, WMI, DP, MP, FMIC, intake, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
12 | @icefrost | 11.593 | 123.37 | 7.495 | 97.44 | 1.763 | AWD, Lap3, K&N intakes, BMS Intercooler, Snorkels, Borla exhaust, HKS, 101 Octane | |
13 | @TorkMe | 11.600 | 122.70 | 7.580 | 97.19 | 1.931 | GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork Intake, muffler delete, no cats, FMIC. 104 octane | |
14 | @Russell Buzz Buzz | 11.605 | 120.18 | 7.524 | 96.15 | 1.823 | 5/22/2021 | Lap 3 Tune, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, WMI, Muffler delete, JA LIT2 scoops. AWD GT |
15 | @Rakker | 11.618 | 121.30 | 7.553 | 97.96 | 1.876 | 5/6/2021 | RWD, JB4, HKS plugs, JA Air scoops, Borla Exhaust, BMS FMIC, BMS snip, BMS diff brace |
16 | @Philly_gt2 | 11.648 | 120.49 | 7.521 | 94.33 | 1.661 | 5/22/2021 | JB4, BMS WMI, break snip, ARK Exhaust and Mid Pipes, CX racing Air Intakes, IMR FMIC System, VT Scoops |
17 | @Snowman70741 | 11.727 | 115.57 | 7.474 | 91.46 | 1.444 | RWD,JB4, BMS intake, BMS Intercooler, Ark Midpipes, BMS Diff Brace, BMS snip, E30 | |
18 | @jfowler85 | 11.745 | 114.79 | 7.554 | 93.29 | 1.729 | 6/12/2021 | RWD,JB4 map 7, BMS intakes, BMS WMI, IMR FMIC, Exhaust cutouts, JA scoops, MT ET Street DRs |
19 | @Angel | 11.764 | 116.79 | 7.542 | 92.18 | 1.608 | AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC, VT snorkel, BMS brake snip | |
20 | @Jordan Fawcett | 11.776 | 116.19 | 7.538 | 92.59 | 1.712 | 7/18/2021 | AWD intakes, snorkels, brake snip, catless mids, jb4 map 7 with WMI and EWG |
I think you’re missing the point, and there’s so much proof of open air intakes increasing HP & decreasing 0-60 & 1/4m times it’s indisputable at this point.I honestly don’t think that is true. I have looked through dozens of logs of people who have truly open air intakes. The one common characteristic I am seeing is that their IATs decrease very little if at all throughout 1/4 mile pulls if they don’t have WMI.
My IATs always decrease through the 1/4 mile and especially once the car builds speed. Now, they don’t decrease like the 20+ degrees I have seen other people get from WMI but I do get 8-10 degrees consistently.
Now this isn’t to say that the stock air box with aftermarket snorkels is better than any or all open air intakes. It is just saying that I seriously doubt switching to something like the Injen intakes is going to improve my times at all. I seriously doubt that it will improve them with most of the aftermarket intakes.
The AEM intakes are good. Perhaps those are better. Perhaps they are the same. No chance any open air intake is giving me .1+ seconds over what I have now. What I have now isn’t perfect but it works way better than most people realize.
As far as the exhaust goes. Yes if I changed my exhaust from stock it would show improvement. However, there are a lot of people that don’t want the modified sound. That is what I am going for. My whole family daily drives my car so it just can’t sound different and be useful for me.
I want to see how fast it can go without changing the stock sound. I understand plenty of other people don’t want that at all.
To each his own.
Spot | Stinger | 1/4 Time | Trap | 1/8 Time | Trap | 60' | Date | Mods |
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1 | @Williamsj41 | 10.977 | 125.06 | 7.033 | 99.57 | 1.567 | 7/31/2021 | AWD, JB4, Map6, Lozic ECU, Lozic TCU, CPI, CAI, Intercooler, Down Pipes |
2 | @AWDGT2 | 11.139 | 122.99 | 7.136 | 98.21 | 1.568 | 4/8/2021 | Jb4,MAP 6, Agency Intakes, Agency FMIC, WMI, MBRP exhaust, BMS snip, JA Air scoops, Renagade fuel. |
3 | @Kato_the_kia_stinger | 11.180 | 124.20 | 7.220 | 97.01 | 1.687 | 3/21/2021 | GT AWD, JB4 Map6, JT intake, WMI, GT9 Catback, Ark Mids, Wagner FMIC, MS103, BMS brake snip |
4 | @gingfreaccs | 11.188 | 124.05 | 7.209 | 98.34 | 1.679 | 6/17/2021 | Lap3 ECU, Protuner, WMI, Lap3 Downpipe, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, stage 3 TCU w/ hyper launch control, Stock Mid pipes, 93+E85 |
5 | @TheDangOne | 11.272 | 124.49 | 7.297 | 97.38 | 1.646 | 5/9/2021 | AWD, JB4, WMI, Down pipes, FMIC, Borla, Injen intakes, BMS snip, HKS |
6 | Yaroslav Ossipov | 11.281 | 124.90 | 1.742 | (Russian track no slip) GT2 AWD, Motec, Pure turbos, catless, Perin FMIC, K&N intake, Vibrant exhaust, 100 octane, Motec launch control | |||
7 | @ScottyCole | 11.296 | 123.91 | 7.306 | 97.96 | 1.729 | GT1 AWD, Tork Stage 2 ECU tune, K&N Intakes, Ark Mid, Borla, Catback, UP FMIC, WMI, BMS brake snip, 93 E20 octane | |
8 | @Tonkabob | 11.466 | 122.70 | 7.45 | 97.33 | 1.830 | GT2 AWD, Tork Stage2 ECU tune, WMI JB4 controlled, Ark catback, JT intake, UP FMIC, E30, Launch control | |
9 | @madhouse | 11.488 | 120.27 | 7.387 | 94.99 | 1.640 | GT AWD, Jb4, Injen intakes, Borla exhaust, secondary bypass(dump valves) Bigger big mouth intakes, fmic, WMI, BMS brake snip, E30+93 | |
10 | @Crewdawg130 | 11.548 | 122.05 | 7.490 | 96.66 | 1.719 | GT2 RWD, Hybrid turbo, JB4, WMI, FFP intakes, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
11 | Angel David | 11.575 | 119.91 | 7.450 | 94.17 | 1.584 | RWD, Lap3 Pro, WMI, DP, MP, FMIC, intake, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
12 | @icefrost | 11.593 | 123.37 | 7.495 | 97.44 | 1.763 | AWD, Lap3, K&N intakes, BMS Intercooler, Snorkels, Borla exhaust, HKS, 101 Octane | |
13 | @TorkMe | 11.600 | 122.70 | 7.580 | 97.19 | 1.931 | GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork Intake, muffler delete, no cats, FMIC. 104 octane | |
14 | @Russell Buzz Buzz | 11.605 | 120.18 | 7.524 | 96.15 | 1.823 | 5/22/2021 | Lap 3 Tune, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, WMI, Muffler delete, JA LIT2 scoops. AWD GT |
15 | @Rakker | 11.618 | 121.30 | 7.553 | 97.96 | 1.876 | 5/6/2021 | RWD, JB4, HKS plugs, JA Air scoops, Borla Exhaust, BMS FMIC, BMS snip, BMS diff brace |
16 | @Philly_gt2 | 11.648 | 120.49 | 7.521 | 94.33 | 1.661 | 5/22/2021 | JB4, BMS WMI, break snip, ARK Exhaust and Mid Pipes, CX racing Air Intakes, IMR FMIC System, VT Scoops |
17 | @Snowman70741 | 11.727 | 115.57 | 7.474 | 91.46 | 1.444 | RWD,JB4, BMS intake, BMS Intercooler, Ark Midpipes, BMS Diff Brace, BMS snip, E30 | |
18 | @jfowler85 | 11.745 | 114.79 | 7.554 | 93.29 | 1.729 | 6/12/2021 | RWD,JB4 map 7, BMS intakes, BMS WMI, IMR FMIC, Exhaust cutouts, JA scoops, MT ET Street DRs |
19 | @Angel | 11.764 | 116.79 | 7.542 | 92.18 | 1.608 | AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC, VT snorkel, BMS brake snip | |
20 | @Jordan Fawcett | 11.776 | 116.19 | 7.538 | 92.59 | 1.712 | 7/18/2021 | AWD intakes, snorkels, brake snip, catless mids, jb4 map 7 with WMI and EWG |
Madhouse on the list
Madhouse on the listView attachment 61496![]()
Also the first in the sub 3s on the 0-60. So 2 coveted honors. Well done!Congratulations to @Williamsj41 ! He made the list even faster, kept the #1, and is officially the 1st to break into the 10's!
Spot Stinger 1/4 Time Trap 1/8 Time Trap 60' Date Mods 1 @Williamsj41 10.977 125.06 7.033 99.57 1.567 7/31/2021 AWD, JB4, Map6, Lozic ECU, Lozic TCU, CPI, CAI, Intercooler, Down Pipes 2 @AWDGT2 11.139 122.99 7.136 98.21 1.568 4/8/2021 Jb4,MAP 6, Agency Intakes, Agency FMIC, WMI, MBRP exhaust, BMS snip, JA Air scoops, Renagade fuel. 3 @Kato_the_kia_stinger 11.180 124.20 7.220 97.01 1.687 3/21/2021 GT AWD, JB4 Map6, JT intake, WMI, GT9 Catback, Ark Mids, Wagner FMIC, MS103, BMS brake snip 4 @gingfreaccs 11.188 124.05 7.209 98.34 1.679 6/17/2021 Lap3 ECU, Protuner, WMI, Lap3 Downpipe, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, stage 3 TCU w/ hyper launch control, Stock Mid pipes, 93+E85 5 @TheDangOne 11.272 124.49 7.297 97.38 1.646 5/9/2021 AWD, JB4, WMI, Down pipes, FMIC, Borla, Injen intakes, BMS snip, HKS 6 Yaroslav Ossipov 11.281 124.90 1.742 (Russian track no slip)
GT2 AWD, Motec, Pure turbos, catless, Perin FMIC, K&N intake, Vibrant exhaust, 100 octane, Motec launch control7 @ScottyCole 11.296 123.91 7.306 97.96 1.729 GT1 AWD, Tork Stage 2 ECU tune, K&N Intakes, Ark Mid, Borla, Catback, UP FMIC, WMI, BMS brake snip, 93 E20 octane 8 @Tonkabob 11.466 122.70 7.45 97.33 1.830 GT2 AWD, Tork Stage2 ECU tune, WMI JB4 controlled, Ark catback, JT intake, UP FMIC, E30, Launch control 9 @madhouse 11.488 120.27 7.387 94.99 1.640 GT AWD, Jb4, Injen intakes, Borla exhaust, secondary bypass(dump valves) Bigger big mouth intakes, fmic, WMI, BMS brake snip, E30+93 10 @Crewdawg130 11.548 122.05 7.490 96.66 1.719 GT2 RWD, Hybrid turbo, JB4, WMI, FFP intakes, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. 11 Angel David 11.575 119.91 7.450 94.17 1.584 RWD, Lap3 Pro, WMI, DP, MP, FMIC, intake, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. 12 @icefrost 11.593 123.37 7.495 97.44 1.763 AWD, Lap3, K&N intakes, BMS Intercooler, Snorkels, Borla exhaust, HKS, 101 Octane 13 @TorkMe 11.600 122.70 7.580 97.19 1.931 GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork Intake, muffler delete, no cats, FMIC. 104 octane 14 @Russell Buzz Buzz 11.605 120.18 7.524 96.15 1.823 5/22/2021 Lap 3 Tune, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, WMI, Muffler delete, JA LIT2 scoops. AWD GT 15 @Rakker 11.618 121.30 7.553 97.96 1.876 5/6/2021 RWD, JB4, HKS plugs, JA Air scoops, Borla Exhaust, BMS FMIC, BMS snip, BMS diff brace 16 @Philly_gt2 11.648 120.49 7.521 94.33 1.661 5/22/2021 JB4, BMS WMI, break snip, ARK Exhaust and Mid Pipes, CX racing Air Intakes, IMR FMIC System, VT Scoops 17 @Snowman70741 11.727 115.57 7.474 91.46 1.444 RWD,JB4, BMS intake, BMS Intercooler, Ark Midpipes, BMS Diff Brace, BMS snip, E30 18 @jfowler85 11.745 114.79 7.554 93.29 1.729 6/12/2021 RWD,JB4 map 7, BMS intakes, BMS WMI, IMR FMIC, Exhaust cutouts, JA scoops, MT ET Street DRs 19 @Angel 11.764 116.79 7.542 92.18 1.608 AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC, VT snorkel, BMS brake snip 20 @Jordan Fawcett 11.776 116.19 7.538 92.59 1.712 7/18/2021 AWD intakes, snorkels, brake snip, catless mids, jb4 map 7 with WMI and EWG
Spot | Stinger | 1/4 Time | Trap | 1/8 Time | Trap | 60' | Date | Mods |
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1 | @Williamsj41 | 10.977 | 125.06 | 7.033 | 99.57 | 1.567 | 7/31/2021 | AWD, JB4, Map6, Lozic ECU, Lozic TCU, CPI, CAI, Intercooler, Down Pipes |
2 | @AWDGT2 | 11.068 | 124.10 | 7.098 | 98.87 | 1.558 | 8/7/2021 | Jb4,MAP 6, Agency Intakes, Agency FMIC, WMI, MBRP exhaust, BMS snip, HFC, JA Air scoops, Renagade fuel. |
3 | @Kato_the_kia_stinger | 11.180 | 124.20 | 7.220 | 97.01 | 1.687 | 3/21/2021 | GT AWD, JB4 Map6, JT intake, WMI, GT9 Catback, Ark Mids, Wagner FMIC, MS103, BMS brake snip |
4 | @gingfreaccs | 11.188 | 124.05 | 7.209 | 98.34 | 1.679 | 6/17/2021 | Lap3 ECU, Protuner, WMI, Lap3 Downpipe, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, stage 3 TCU w/ hyper launch control, Stock Mid pipes, 93+E85 |
5 | @TheDangOne | 11.272 | 124.49 | 7.297 | 97.38 | 1.646 | 5/9/2021 | AWD, JB4, WMI, Down pipes, FMIC, Borla, Injen intakes, BMS snip, HKS |
6 | Yaroslav Ossipov | 11.281 | 124.90 | 1.742 | (Russian track no slip) GT2 AWD, Motec, Pure turbos, catless, Perin FMIC, K&N intake, Vibrant exhaust, 100 octane, Motec launch control | |||
7 | @ScottyCole | 11.296 | 123.91 | 7.306 | 97.96 | 1.729 | GT1 AWD, Tork Stage 2 ECU tune, K&N Intakes, Ark Mid, Borla, Catback, UP FMIC, WMI, BMS brake snip, 93 E20 octane | |
8 | @Tonkabob | 11.466 | 122.70 | 7.45 | 97.33 | 1.830 | GT2 AWD, Tork Stage2 ECU tune, WMI JB4 controlled, Ark catback, JT intake, UP FMIC, E30, Launch control | |
9 | @madhouse | 11.488 | 120.27 | 7.387 | 94.99 | 1.640 | GT AWD, Jb4, Injen intakes, Borla exhaust, secondary bypass(dump valves) Bigger big mouth intakes, fmic, WMI, BMS brake snip, E30+93 | |
10 | @Crewdawg130 | 11.548 | 122.05 | 7.490 | 96.66 | 1.719 | GT2 RWD, Hybrid turbo, JB4, WMI, FFP intakes, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
11 | Angel David | 11.575 | 119.91 | 7.450 | 94.17 | 1.584 | RWD, Lap3 Pro, WMI, DP, MP, FMIC, intake, Drag radials, BMS brake snip. | |
12 | @icefrost | 11.593 | 123.37 | 7.495 | 97.44 | 1.763 | AWD, Lap3, K&N intakes, BMS Intercooler, Snorkels, Borla exhaust, HKS, 101 Octane | |
13 | @TorkMe | 11.600 | 122.70 | 7.580 | 97.19 | 1.931 | GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork Intake, muffler delete, no cats, FMIC. 104 octane | |
14 | @Russell Buzz Buzz | 11.605 | 120.18 | 7.524 | 96.15 | 1.823 | 5/22/2021 | Lap 3 Tune, AEM intakes, Mishimoto FMIC, WMI, Muffler delete, JA LIT2 scoops. AWD GT |
15 | @Rakker | 11.618 | 121.30 | 7.553 | 97.96 | 1.876 | 5/6/2021 | RWD, JB4, HKS plugs, JA Air scoops, Borla Exhaust, BMS FMIC, BMS snip, BMS diff brace |
16 | @Philly_gt2 | 11.648 | 120.49 | 7.521 | 94.33 | 1.661 | 5/22/2021 | JB4, BMS WMI, break snip, ARK Exhaust and Mid Pipes, CX racing Air Intakes, IMR FMIC System, VT Scoops |
17 | @Snowman70741 | 11.727 | 115.57 | 7.474 | 91.46 | 1.444 | RWD,JB4, BMS intake, BMS Intercooler, Ark Midpipes, BMS Diff Brace, BMS snip, E30 | |
18 | @jfowler85 | 11.745 | 114.79 | 7.554 | 93.29 | 1.729 | 6/12/2021 | RWD,JB4 map 7, BMS intakes, BMS WMI, IMR FMIC, Exhaust cutouts, JA scoops, MT ET Street DRs |
19 | @Angel | 11.764 | 116.79 | 7.542 | 92.18 | 1.608 | AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC, VT snorkel, BMS brake snip | |
20 | @Jordan Fawcett | 11.776 | 116.19 | 7.538 | 92.59 | 1.712 | 7/18/2021 | AWD intakes, snorkels, brake snip, catless mids, jb4 map 7 with WMI and EWG |