I Stung U
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Also, I've been chatting with Racechip customer service, and it took them a few days or more to respond for the first time, I guess is o.k. since they're likely busy (though jb4 guys replied in 2 days), but after that, I've been emailing back and forth with more questions and chatting with them and it's been great response right back and forth, now that I'm in their list to reply too, so thumbs up.
But, here's the but.
I'm trying to find out more DETAILS how the maps work in general and compared to the 3 diff model levels.. and some replies seem good and well answered but some are still vague...
so,
- they say all their maps are designed for stock car, so I should be able to use Maps 0-5 or 6 or 7, model respectfully. Hmm.. That's cool I don't need mods to use all their maps.. Great.. unlike JB4, where I'd have to pay SO MUCH, and not be able to use maps higher than 3 with my Stingers set up.. so why pay for top model if I can't use 60% of it's features and capabilities.. so Racechip is sounding like a good option, to buy the S (lower 5 map) model, for my stock. even though I could go GTS 7 map model (by choice as I don't want to over work my car and be safe) personal choice.
- but I can not get a clear answer from them on the following:
A) if I can their maps are designed for stock cars, should i be able to get th 34 HP and 74 lb.ft. of torque using map 5 on the S model (with me at least adding the performance plugs gapped to 26 & running 93) ? which I should, barring any humidity levels where i live whatever, etc.. by their claim.
B) if that's the case as above A, then what happens when someone does have bolt ons and plugs and 93 octane ? will they get more than the stated amount, if those numbers are for stock cars ?
if yes, bonus for those customers if not, than it's misleading to say these are designed for stock cars and post those possible gains, if mods are need to reach their numbers...
C) do the maps 1-5 do exactly the same thing on all models, but only diff. is map 6 on rs and map 7 on gts models are the upgrades in those models ? w/added option for the app ?
or do EVEN maps 1-5 in RS and GTS models each actually do a bit more than the S, and the GTS 1-5 actually is abit more aggressive than model RS ? So, example map 1 in s give 5Hp and map 1 on rs model give 6Hp and map 1 on gts model give 8hp , ect.. up thru the maps ?
or they tuned and do the same until you get map 6 or map 7 respectfully ??
D) so if design to map 7 for stock, that would suggest that having mods, the tuner chip can not detect your mods or you can not input that info into the chip so it re-works its magic to fine tune your specific car/mods ?? so this tuner is NOT for cars with mods ? Or is it ?
Again, if they can't be specific, then we're buying more blind and making uniformed decisions, like taking the the un-test chemical death jab going around right now.. Ha..
They will not answer and tell me they can not give me this reply, twice now, even though I asked to just understand for my informed decision as a consumer.
They replied this....
"" The specific details of how the product works on each map is proprietary as stated before. I cannot give you that info. I have found a phone call will get you the answers you will look for. You can either call TDot and they will answer questions you have or our toll free phone number on our website. If you cannot get the answers that way, then reach back out to me. Again, RaceChip cannot give you RPM Autoreviews (Stavros) Proprietary information on how our product works. ""
Maybe Tdot is allowed to reply to these questions but head office isn't ? Not sure, but TDot hasn't replied to 2 of my email request nor could I reach anyone on the phone.. I didn't try many times by phone.
Everyone let me know if I am Fkn an Ahole or is the info I am asking NOT Proprietary, but just simple Fkn product features !! for consumers to know the diff. from the models !!! to make an informed decision !!
I am NOT !! asking for the ingredients or scientific formula's of how your maps are tuned, just if map 1-5 are the exact same abilities, and map 6-7 in upper models are the upgraded part of the models !!!! If they refuse to answer this simple customer knowledge question, I assume you're only paying for map 6 & 7 on rs and gts. w/app option Which is actually fine, cause many will want to pay more for the added power those models offer... GREAT !
Anyone Here have any Racechip on their Stinger and Have dyno'd it and can post their chart..
I also, as per above post, have concerns their power curves on the chart, though spike up fast and great !! the down curve (all cars have), is sooner and strong dive, from what I saw, from only one guys stinger dyno, which means great power, but dies out sooner in the rpm gauge isn't a a great feature... as you'll start to lose top end.
I am so close to ordering one, but now have doubts to lack of transparency on NON-Proprietary feature info I am asking for.
Stavros
RPM Auto Reviews
But, here's the but.
I'm trying to find out more DETAILS how the maps work in general and compared to the 3 diff model levels.. and some replies seem good and well answered but some are still vague...
so,
- they say all their maps are designed for stock car, so I should be able to use Maps 0-5 or 6 or 7, model respectfully. Hmm.. That's cool I don't need mods to use all their maps.. Great.. unlike JB4, where I'd have to pay SO MUCH, and not be able to use maps higher than 3 with my Stingers set up.. so why pay for top model if I can't use 60% of it's features and capabilities.. so Racechip is sounding like a good option, to buy the S (lower 5 map) model, for my stock. even though I could go GTS 7 map model (by choice as I don't want to over work my car and be safe) personal choice.
- but I can not get a clear answer from them on the following:
A) if I can their maps are designed for stock cars, should i be able to get th 34 HP and 74 lb.ft. of torque using map 5 on the S model (with me at least adding the performance plugs gapped to 26 & running 93) ? which I should, barring any humidity levels where i live whatever, etc.. by their claim.
B) if that's the case as above A, then what happens when someone does have bolt ons and plugs and 93 octane ? will they get more than the stated amount, if those numbers are for stock cars ?
if yes, bonus for those customers if not, than it's misleading to say these are designed for stock cars and post those possible gains, if mods are need to reach their numbers...
C) do the maps 1-5 do exactly the same thing on all models, but only diff. is map 6 on rs and map 7 on gts models are the upgrades in those models ? w/added option for the app ?
or do EVEN maps 1-5 in RS and GTS models each actually do a bit more than the S, and the GTS 1-5 actually is abit more aggressive than model RS ? So, example map 1 in s give 5Hp and map 1 on rs model give 6Hp and map 1 on gts model give 8hp , ect.. up thru the maps ?
or they tuned and do the same until you get map 6 or map 7 respectfully ??
D) so if design to map 7 for stock, that would suggest that having mods, the tuner chip can not detect your mods or you can not input that info into the chip so it re-works its magic to fine tune your specific car/mods ?? so this tuner is NOT for cars with mods ? Or is it ?
Again, if they can't be specific, then we're buying more blind and making uniformed decisions, like taking the the un-test chemical death jab going around right now.. Ha..
They will not answer and tell me they can not give me this reply, twice now, even though I asked to just understand for my informed decision as a consumer.
They replied this....
"" The specific details of how the product works on each map is proprietary as stated before. I cannot give you that info. I have found a phone call will get you the answers you will look for. You can either call TDot and they will answer questions you have or our toll free phone number on our website. If you cannot get the answers that way, then reach back out to me. Again, RaceChip cannot give you RPM Autoreviews (Stavros) Proprietary information on how our product works. ""
Maybe Tdot is allowed to reply to these questions but head office isn't ? Not sure, but TDot hasn't replied to 2 of my email request nor could I reach anyone on the phone.. I didn't try many times by phone.
Everyone let me know if I am Fkn an Ahole or is the info I am asking NOT Proprietary, but just simple Fkn product features !! for consumers to know the diff. from the models !!! to make an informed decision !!
I am NOT !! asking for the ingredients or scientific formula's of how your maps are tuned, just if map 1-5 are the exact same abilities, and map 6-7 in upper models are the upgraded part of the models !!!! If they refuse to answer this simple customer knowledge question, I assume you're only paying for map 6 & 7 on rs and gts. w/app option Which is actually fine, cause many will want to pay more for the added power those models offer... GREAT !
Anyone Here have any Racechip on their Stinger and Have dyno'd it and can post their chart..
I also, as per above post, have concerns their power curves on the chart, though spike up fast and great !! the down curve (all cars have), is sooner and strong dive, from what I saw, from only one guys stinger dyno, which means great power, but dies out sooner in the rpm gauge isn't a a great feature... as you'll start to lose top end.
I am so close to ordering one, but now have doubts to lack of transparency on NON-Proprietary feature info I am asking for.
Stavros
RPM Auto Reviews
But I've never heard of any RaceChip customers getting paid out on that. And know plenty who have broken things with it installed. Your mileage may vary.
Faster acceleration from 0 and smooth & strong power delivery during the whole rpm range - AND a significant increase in hp compared to stock. The 
