Kia Stinger Rear Hatch Rattle

[Consequential]

The trouble with this is that if you don't have rattles you are not going to believe that the hatch or sunroof have a problem. Individual vehicles have imperfections. But as a whole production run the Stinger is largely if not entirely quiet. I'm not alone by any means, on the forum, when I say that my vehicle has never emitted a single extraneous noise in over 29K miles and 20 months. The issue is with your vehicle. And that's too bad and I am sorry.

To be direct, this was one of the most pointless and unhelpful replies I’ve ever seen to a post.

it did nothing to address my concern or add anything in any way.

Obviously there are stingers with no issues or no rattles and some more than others. No one even mentioned this.

This was a very specific question and your response was absolutely pointless and generic at that.

There is a tech bulletin on this very specific issue. That means it’s so much of an issue for x many vehicles that it warranted being a bulletin and acknowledgement from KIA and fixes were developed.

I just cannot understand what someone is thinking when they reply like above to the original post.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I just cannot understand what someone is thinking when they reply like above to the original post.

Simple: I do this "for a living." I'm behaving out of habit. When someone, anyone, anymore, talks about rattles (extraneous noises), sometimes I read between the lines: "This car is badly designed"; or, "most Stingers are rattletraps". Etc. You get the idea. You didn't say that, but I anticipated the conversation going there and forestalled it. Apologies.

I can say that no changes (I have heard of) have been made in the construction of the Stinger. But, as with any conscientious company, Kia will have been addressing quality control issues (which are the sole reason SOME Stingers have extraneous noises issues). You would be wasting your time and money getting a 2020 expecting it to de facto be free of any issues earlier build years have exhibited in SOME vehicles.

 

[Consequential]

Simple: I do this "for a living." I'm behaving out of habit. When someone, anyone, anymore, talks about rattles (extraneous noises), sometimes I read between the lines: "This car is badly designed"; or, "most Stingers are rattletraps". Etc. You get the idea. You didn't say that, but I anticipated the conversation going there and forestalled it. Apologies.

I can say that no changes (I have heard of) have been made in the construction of the Stinger. But, as with any conscientious company, Kia will have been addressing quality control issues (which are the sole reason SOME Stingers have extraneous noises issues). You would be wasting your time and money getting a 2020 expecting it to de facto be free of any issues earlier build years have exhibited in SOME vehicles.

At this point as the author of the original post, I’m asking that you simply stop replying.

you’re making so many continuous assumptions and none of them are helpful to my questions or concerns. Literally no help whatsoever.

1. If the dealer from their own district rep can’t even get a specific and straight response direct from KIA, I don’t think someone posting a reply consisting of “I can say that no changes (that I’ve heard of)” is helpful in any manner. In fact I’d imagine literally billions of people on earth haven’t heard of any changes to the construction of the Stinger.

2. Thank you for your profound wisdom that KIA makes improvements

3. I never said I was going to buy a 2020 expecting the issue to be fixed. After all I’m here seeking info in the way of facts to actually help determine if the issue is resolved. For example, if a bunch of 2020 Stinger owns come on board at some point and they share that the issue exists for them, well, gosh, that would be incredibly helpful. Wouldn’t it? Or, let’s say someone who actually got something from KIA that showed changes were made to the rear hatch area that served to further eliminate the issue, wow, wouldn’t that be incredibly helpful? But yes, let’s instead post abysmal replies like you have.

You come across as someone who is so self important and who’s opinion must be heard even when it’s 100% unhelpful and time wasting.

Even my reply serves very little point other than to vent about how horribly a waste of time this has been and how horrible your set of replies are to humanity.

for everyone else out there, please review my original post and if at all you believe you have a useful bit of info to share or add, I’d appreciate your participation.

thanks

 

[MerlintheMad]

You come across as someone who is so self important and who’s opinion must be heard even when it’s 100% unhelpful and time wasting.

Even my reply serves very little point other than to vent about how horribly a waste of time this has been and how horrible your set of replies are to humanity.

for everyone else out there, please review my original post and if at all you believe you have a useful bit of info to share or add, I’d appreciate your participation.

I was suggesting that you are better served addressing the problem with YOUR vehicle. How that comes across as self important might be better filtered through "post envy". You can always IGNORE the Evil One, you know. Happy Holidays.

(One last piece of advice: your OP question, repeated ad nauseam, is premature: there are not enough MY20s out there or on here, yet, for any sort of conclusion about Kia ramping up quality control in time to "save the 2020s".)

 

[Consequential]

I was suggesting that you are better served addressing the problem with YOUR vehicle. How that comes across as self important might be better filtered through "post envy". You can always IGNORE the Evil One, you know. Happy Holidays.

(One last piece of advice: your OP question, repeated ad nauseam, is premature: there are not enough MY20s out there or on here, yet, for any sort of conclusion about Kia ramping up quality control in time to "save the 2020s".)

This will be my last reply...

You're a classic troll.

I don't think you've read my original post, ever. If you had, you would have realized your replies weren't addressing my words but instead, your own assumptions and misunderstanding.

I cannot address the issue anymore as I clearly stated. I took it in 4 times and the fixes by KIA did not work nor did the improvised fixes that the dealer came up with. It is a clear case of a recall issue where the identified "fix" did not fix the issue and now my dealer is out of ideas and so is KIA. With KIA not looking to assist any further, that then led me to my original question and concern.

Obviously there aren't enough 2020's out there, at no point did I state anything to the contrary. This is a thread on a message forum where it would have lived for a long time and as a result, as time passed, more people would potentially see it as the 2020's came in. Then the theory goes, if even a handful of people were to reply just like they have on the 2019's showing they see the same issue as the 2018's, I would have a more informed idea as to whether or not to take the plunge with a 2020.

So in summary, had you actually read my post and taken my words as being literal and at face value, you wouldn't (providing you have common sense and a lack of narcissism) have felt the need to be heard and be the opposite of helpful.

Lastly, I can only take your "ad nauseam" comment as a way of passive aggressively eluding to my new post with the same original question and the renaming of this thread. If so (and you provided no reason to think otherwise due to your lack of clarity), it was all due to you and your trolling replies. You see, I didn't want to take a chance that sincere and helpful potential responses wouldn't come in on this due to our exchange as it completely derailed the original intent and post.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I don't think you've read my original post, ever. If you had, you would have realized your replies weren't addressing my words but instead, your own assumptions and misunderstanding.

I read your OP several times; and once before my first response. I admitted that I was reading things into what you said, and apologized. Made not the slightest difference to you.

I cannot address the issue anymore as I clearly stated. I took it in 4 times and the fixes by KIA did not work nor did the improvised fixes that the dealer came up with. It is a clear case of a recall issue where the identified "fix" did not fix the issue and now my dealer is out of ideas and so is KIA. With KIA not looking to assist any further, that then led me to my original question and concern.

Have you (in all your months on the forum) actually read through all the threads on extraneous noises? Especially the hatch and sunroof: discussion is copious. Kia has good and lousy dealerships/service departments. If you don't get anywhere with "yours", either find another one or pursue a solution on your own: as quite a few here have done. They have ideas far beyond anything that you say your guys have tried, and then tossed their hands in the air.

Lastly, I can only take your "ad nauseam" comment as a way of passive aggressively eluding to my new post with the same original question and the renaming of this thread.

"Alluding". I am not eluding anything. I was only responding to your tone: and pointing out that referring to your OP question about MY20 repeatedly when there are not enough of them out there (or here) isn't going to work for you.

You see, I didn't want to take a chance that sincere and helpful potential responses wouldn't come in on this due to our exchange as it completely derailed the original intent and post.

I'd say that you sabotaged your own effort. Start a new thread, get Sal to get rid of this one, and I'll do my best to avoid you in the future (I do not ignore anyone).

 

[Flameangel]

I own a 2019 GT2 bought it end of June this year, it has proved solid, I haven’t had any problems with any rattles anywhere. The only issue I had was the music on the infotainment would periodically have no sound. Someone advised me to take it off quantum logic and it hasn’t been an issue since.This has apparently been an issue with some of the 2019’s.
I understand you must be feeling very frustrated by the lack of closure with your issues. MerlintheMad is friendly and usually helpful on this forum, he is no troll .

 

[Todd Piefer]

Consequential, I may have a solution for your rattle... The hatch latch assembly on my '18 seems to have too much play. Last week as an experiment, I cut some quarter-inch strips of duct tape and wrapped them around the part that the latch latches to when the hatch is closed, effectively making that part thicker and removing the play. I had to remove a small section of the tape from the upper forward bend to allow some metal/metal contact otherwise the hatch-open warning was displayed on the dash. I'm ecstatic with the results. Finally quiet back there!

 

[Consequential]

I own a 2019 GT2 bought it end of June this year, it has proved solid, I haven’t had any problems with any rattles anywhere. The only issue I had was the music on the infotainment would periodically have no sound. Someone advised me to take it off quantum logic and it hasn’t been an issue since.This has apparently been an issue with some of the 2019’s.
I understand you must be feeling very frustrated by the lack of closure with your issues. MerlintheMad is friendly and usually helpful on this forum, he is no troll .

Thank you

Consequential, I may have a solution for your rattle... The hatch latch assembly on my '18 seems to have too much play. Last week as an experiment, I cut some quarter-inch strips of duct tape and wrapped them around the part that the latch latches to when the hatch is closed, effectively making that part thicker and removing the play. I had to remove a small section of the tape from the upper forward bend to allow some metal/metal contact otherwise the hatch-open warning was displayed on the dash. I'm ecstatic with the results. Finally quiet back there!

Thanks for that, I'll look into that!

 

[nhcowboy28]

I have a 89 Maxima with a rattle.

 

[westcoastGT]

Consequential, I may have a solution for your rattle... The hatch latch assembly on my '18 seems to have too much play. Last week as an experiment, I cut some quarter-inch strips of duct tape and wrapped them around the part that the latch latches to when the hatch is closed, effectively making that part thicker and removing the play. I had to remove a small section of the tape from the upper forward bend to allow some metal/metal contact otherwise the hatch-open warning was displayed on the dash. I'm ecstatic with the results. Finally quiet back there!

Todd , great idea ! I fixed my rattle with washers but lately I've been getting the "thunk" sound ,adjusting bumpers didnt do anything . I'm going to try this !! Thanks for posting ! And Consequential , I feel for you on these issues ! my sunroof ticking and creaking was so bad that I was almost to the point of selling my car ...................long story ...........I got KIA Canada to replace my sunroof frame ..............voila ! if you want more info PM me , or refer to the sunroof threads on the site . Good Luck ..................ps Please give Merlin a second chance hes a good guy

 

[westcoastGT]

Consequential, I may have a solution for your rattle... The hatch latch assembly on my '18 seems to have too much play. Last week as an experiment, I cut some quarter-inch strips of duct tape and wrapped them around the part that the latch latches to when the hatch is closed, effectively making that part thicker and removing the play. I had to remove a small section of the tape from the upper forward bend to allow some metal/metal contact otherwise the hatch-open warning was displayed on the dash. I'm ecstatic with the results. Finally quiet back there!

5 Gold Stars for Todd !!! This works ! Todd I'm going to post this into the trunk Rattle Thread with a pic , you'll get full credit !!

 

[Ozstung]

On the 2018 Stinger models in Australia all vehicles had the hatch rattles fixed under a Aust wide service bulletin. Mine was replaced under the 3,000km check/service. And mine hadn't displayed any rattles at that stage.

 

[Ozstung]

I have a 89 Maxima with a rattle.

We had an old cot with one to.

 

[Aarvix]

I wouldn't call Merlin a troll, but he's always the first to chime in any time someone mentions creaks and rattles. You'll never convince him that stingers have noise issues, don't even try.

My hatch never rattled, but had the thunk, which was solved by adding washers under the catches ($1 fix).

My sunroof is inconsistent, sometimes creaks sometimes quiet. Closing the shade quiets it, but I have no tips other than that.

Another big source of noise in my car is the damn grab handles. They make so much noise I removed them and my car was nearly silent afterwards. Been trying several things but so far nothing has stopped them from making intermittent ticking noises.

The door seals can also become noisy. Treat them regularly with shin etsu grease any them should stay quiet.

Stinger ownership skews older. Sometimes I wonder if those folks simply can't hear the creaks.

I love my car, but it's definitely not as buttoned down inside as a Lexus or BMW/Audi.

 

[Spyder168]

I wouldn't call Merlin a troll, but he's always the first to chime in any time someone mentions creaks and rattles. You'll never convince him that stingers have noise issues, don't even try.

My hatch never rattled, but had the thunk, which was solved by adding washers under the catches ($1 fix).

My sunroof is inconsistent, sometimes creaks sometimes quiet. Closing the shade quiets it, but I have no tips other than that.

Another big source of noise in my car is the damn grab handles. They make so much noise I removed them and my car was nearly silent afterwards. Been trying several things but so far nothing has stopped them from making intermittent ticking noises.

The door seals can also become noisy. Treat them regularly with shin etsu grease any them should stay quiet.

Stinger ownership skews older. Sometimes I wonder if those folks simply can't hear the creaks.

I love my car, but it's definitely not as buttoned down inside as a Lexus or BMW/Audi.

So I've been hearing about these rear hatch noises and I didn't have an issue with mine until it started getting into winter cold weather, it's more of a thud noise on both sides on certain bumps or pulling in and out of driveways. I was literally at the Dealer today and was told they had no TSB or fix for this and acted as if they never heard of this? It's a very pronounced noise but after driving it around and it warms up a bit it does lessen, and or almost is non existent? I have a 21 GT1. So it is an issue, I'll try and turn the stops to see if It will tighten up. My question is are the stops shrinking in cold weather? I bought in April 2021 and no noises at all until the weather changed to what we consider cold here in East Bay California, which is in the low 30s to 50s Fahrenheit. I still love my car though!

 

[rocket23]

So I've been hearing about these rear hatch noises and I didn't have an issue with mine until it started getting into winter cold weather, it's more of a thud noise on both sides on certain bumps or pulling in and out of driveways. I was literally at the Dealer today and was told they had no TSB or fix for this and acted as if they never heard of this? It's a very pronounced noise but after driving it around and it warms up a bit it does lessen, and or almost is non existent? I have a 21 GT1. So it is an issue, I'll try and turn the stops to see if It will tighten up. My question is are the stops shrinking in cold weather? I bought in April 2021 and no noises at all until the weather changed to what we consider cold here in East Bay California, which is in the low 30s to 50s Fahrenheit. I still love my car though!

the 2 rubber/hard plastic pieces on the car body or hatch lid ( I forget which) need to be shored up with a few washers, problem solved in all types of weather.....use non metallic washers.....

 

[Spyder168]

the 2 rubber/hard plastic pieces on the car body or hatch lid ( I forget which) need to be shored up with a few washers, problem solved in all types of weather.....use non metallic washers.....

I just spoke with a service advisor at Kia and he also owns a Stinger and there is no TSB as of now but he is having the same issue when it got colder. As of now at the Dealers anyway there is no Warranty fix yet but he did say its gonna come at some point as he has not only had his car doing it but has had many come in for same issue. The plastic or rubber is shrinking in the cold, he said his fix was putting a small piece of wood...spruce I think... in where it latches and he said he has had to put in another one as this wood is a little soft and it becomes compressed after awhile, but works temporarily. I'll go the washer way for mine as it is working for most as I understand. Thanks for the input.

 

[rocket23]

I just spoke with a service advisor at Kia and he also owns a Stinger and there is no TSB as of now but he is having the same issue when it got colder. As of now at the Dealers anyway there is no Warranty fix yet but he did say its gonna come at some point as he has not only had his car doing it but has had many come in for same issue. The plastic or rubber is shrinking in the cold, he said his fix was putting a small piece of wood...spruce I think... in where it latches and he said he has had to put in another one as this wood is a little soft and it becomes compressed after awhile, but works temporarily. I'll go the washer way for mine as it is working for most as I understand. Thanks for the input.

Yeah, I'd stay away from that England thinking bastard dealer.do the washer hack...it works and lasts.

 

[95oRANGEcRUSH]

The Kia washer/pad fix with a PDF including photos and part number
Post in thread 'Have the "Trunk Thunk" Kit, now what?' Post 15:
Have the "Trunk Thunk" Kit, now what?


The “fix” I did:
Post in thread 'Have the "Trunk Thunk" Kit, now what?' Post 38:
Have the "Trunk Thunk" Kit, now what?