Kia Stinger Navigation Map Update

[bumble bee]

i will have to get mine checked out.

 

[MerlintheMad]

@Stinger GT SS, he's talking about "manual gate", I think. And it is a handy device. It prevents a car that has been driven with the paddle shifters from reverting to "D" each time it comes to a stop. Also shifting by bumping or pulling back on the shifter is convenient sometimes. A combination of paddle shifters and using the shifter can make shifting to the exact gear you want very facile. If you don't want anything but automatic, that's cool too. It's the choices that are a pleasure for me.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

@Stinger GT SS, he's talking about "manual gate", I think. And it is a handy device. It prevents a car that has been driven with the paddle shifters from reverting to "D" each time it comes to a stop. Also shifting by bumping or pulling back on the shifter is convenient sometimes. A combination of paddle shifters and using the shifter can make shifting to the exact gear you want very facile. If you don't want anything but automatic, that's cool too. It's the choices that are a pleasure for me.

I understand, but this thread is for sat nav update & I never mentioned manual mode at all so I couldn’t work out how he started with this.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Must have been thread mixup. I didn't look either!

 

[Marc Collins]

Well I didn’t want a manual, owned manuals formerly, I don’t want again, I haven’t even used the flappy paddles so I don’t get your issue, if you want manual mode buy something else.

Sure, that's why 99% of cars today come with a manual mode. The issue is which ones work properly and which ones do not.

But the analogue to your answer is "buy a map" if there are problems with the nav or features that are inferior to nav on other cars. Don't expect KIA to fix anything

I do appreciate that you are not interested in using it, but it doesn't change the point that I was making, which had little to do with manual mode. It was that in different markets we are being given different software or pay vs. non-pay to the detriment of us all.

I am not in Australia so obviously have no direct interest or concern with the matter. But I see a very unfortunate pattern that when we all ignore everything except our pet peeve, it results in KIA being let off the hook instead of dealing with things.

 

[MerlintheMad]

The only thing that is going to get Kia to "deal with things" is loss of revenue/customer base. They have their growth charts and endless meetings at all levels and pressure on everyone to grow the company. It is the capitalist way. As car manufacturers muscle for their piece of the pie, worldwide markets are their future bread and butter. Future sales depend on reputation building NOW. Forums like this one are the key to that success. So any negative being passed around here has a ripple effect out there in the real world of car sales.

I don't see Kia demonstrating an indifference toward criticism of their products. Asserting that they don't "deal with things" has no basis in facts. Obviously the company has grown by leaps and bounds in a cutthroat business. And the reasons why are equally clear: they do listen to what people want, what impresses them, and they market what sells.

The NAV is an awesome technology in a constantly changing world. The tech will change to become "instantly" editable. We are not there by more than a skosh. But "wait for iiit", we will be before very long. And Kia will be up at the front with those changes.

 

[Mark H]

I've done nothing about updating. On another family vehicle I usually don't do an update for 2-3yrs. Does the SD card have to remain in the car? And what are you supposed to do with older ones?

I believe that the system accesses the card during navigation and removal of the card will cause problems. I would save the old card and download the system/map update onto it when the update is created. this will save you a small amount of money and you will not need to wait until you get the card in the mail.

 

[Marc Collins]

The only thing that is going to get Kia to "deal with things" is loss of revenue/customer base. They have their growth charts and endless meetings at all levels and pressure on everyone to grow the company. It is the capitalist way. As car manufacturers muscle for their piece of the pie, worldwide markets are their future bread and butter. Future sales depend on reputation building NOW. Forums like this one are the key to that success. So any negative being passed around here has a ripple effect out there in the real world of car sales.

I don't see Kia demonstrating an indifference toward criticism of their products. Asserting that they don't "deal with things" has no basis in facts. Obviously the company has grown by leaps and bounds in a cutthroat business. And the reasons why are equally clear: they do listen to what people want, what impresses them, and they market what sells.

The NAV is an awesome technology in a constantly changing world. The tech will change to become "instantly" editable. We are not there by more than a skosh. But "wait for iiit", we will be before very long. And Kia will be up at the front with those changes.

Yep, no point in communicating anything directly to a manufacturer. It's much better for them to wait to analyze sales numbers and try to draw inferences about the thousands of different factors that could explain revenue increases or decreases.

Astounding...

 

[MerlintheMad]

Yep, no point in communicating anything directly to a manufacturer. It's much better for them to wait to analyze sales numbers and try to draw inferences about the thousands of different factors that could explain revenue increases or decreases.

Astounding...

Do both. Participation here regardless of what individuals communicate directly to Kia reps is far more insightful because it is what people say "alone", and in far greater numbers, I believe. How many customers actually call Kia to bitch at them? Comparatively few. Social Medía is a seething pot to phone callers.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

No offence guys but this is now totally off topic, there are other threads that address these issues.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

See if they'll give you the transmission Sport mode update everyone else in the world seems to have except Aussies. So it will stay in manual mode when you put it in manual mode...

Marc,
Do you have any kind of reference number for this transmission sport mode update? I would like to take my car to the dealer to have this done, if you have.
It's one of the three quirks of this vehicle that I don't care for.

 

[Marc Collins]

Marc,
Do you have any kind of reference number for this transmission sport mode update? I would like to take my car to the dealer to have this done, if you have.
It's one of the three quirks of this vehicle that I don't care for.

Nope, just that some of us later purchasers got it, so it was clearly a production update at some point. Except Australia, who are apparently never going to get it. If your car doesn't hold manual mode even at a stop when you are in Sport Mode, you don't have the latest. And there is another update already finished that also prevents up-shfting at red-line in manual mode. Who knows who KIA thinks is worthy of receiving that update. Their fickleness drives me crazy, as you can tell.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

Nope, just that some of us later purchasers got it, so it was clearly a production update at some point. Except Australia, who are apparently never going to get it. If your car doesn't hold manual mode even at a stop when you are in Sport Mode, you don't have the latest. And there is another update already finished that also prevents up-shfting at red-line in manual mode. Who knows who KIA thinks is worthy of receiving that update. Their fickleness drives me crazy, as you can tell.

OK, mine defaults to "D" at a stop and upshifts before redline, so I don't have either of those software updates. I'll call the service department of the local dealer tomorrow to find out more info. Thanks for that, Marc!!

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

Sooo....I contacted my local Kia service department, and....so far.....nothing! No transmission sport mode software updates available for my Limited. I'll try again at the beginning of September. Hopefully by then, there will be something.

 

[robz32]

@Marc Collins @Jonathan Lasich Let's keep this thread for Map and Navigation updates. For all other software updates TCU, ECU, etc. please refer to the appropriate thread, if there is one, if not please create a new one under the appropriate section.

Thank you

 

[max2382]

I haven't updated my system yet, probably today but I was wondering about driving or not the car or while updating. I read that many people have done it this way with no issues, but the guy on the phone said to not drive it. Maybe he had no clue. what's your opinion?

 

[Tobstertx3]

I just sat outside the house and did it. Took about 23 mins with me.

 

[Marc Collins]

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I haven't updated my system yet, probably today but I was wondering about driving or not the car or while updating. I read that many people have done it this way with no issues, but the guy on the phone said to not drive it. Maybe he had no clue. what's your opinion?

No issue whatsoever to do it while driving. Mine even kept my USB music playing, though I had no screen control of it of course. Stinger has bad enough fuel economy already, I'm not leaving it running going nowhere just for the update.

 

[NoVAGT2]

I drove the car during the update with no problems as well.

Cheers

 

[Wadood]

I just got a call from KIA customer service that there is a new map update to be released soon which is version 12.5. I was told that there is no longer access to version 12 so as soon as the newer version 12.5 is released that will get sent to me instead.