Intake Comparison

[StungBlueGT2]

Alright, now that it's finally time for me to buy an intake, I'm more confused than ever. If you look at the fastest Stingers based on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in the Dragy app, the vast majority of them are using K&N intakes, next is Injen. Prior to seeing that, I was going to buy the JTs. But at literally double the cost of the K&Ns and a 10 week minimum lead time, I may change gears and get the K&Ns instead.

Edit: I just took a look at the 1/4 mile thread on this forum and it looks like some people may not be updating their intake info on the Dragy app. @Kato_the_kia_stinger, for example, now has a JT intake according to this forum even though he has a K&N filter listed in the Dragy app. Too bad things weren't as simple as "This will give you the best performance increase"

If the JTs will actually give the best gains, I don't mind spending the extra and waiting. But I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer.

Side note, current performance mods are a JB4 on Map 2 with 93 octane, Denso plugs, DIY intakes, Mishimoto intercooler, Ark secondaries, lightweight wheels.

Edit 2: Found this old post about Tonkabob's results:


.2 seconds is quite a gain. But are people with the K&N kits seeing similar gains? I haven't found that info yet.

They all make about the same power & 0.2 second performance gains, even the $100 DIY versions. The JTs may have slightly better top end power due to the bigger front ductwork, but for your request of better low end power you’re likely not to notice a difference between any intakes.

As others have said choose them based on looks and/or budget since the power gains are all very similar.

 

[xot1]

They all make about the same power & 0.2 second performance gains, even the $100 DIY versions. The JTs may have slightly better top end power due to the bigger front ductwork, but for your request of better low end power you’re likely not to notice a difference between any intakes.

As others have said choose them based on looks and/or budget since the power gains are all very similar.

Have you tried all intakes? You're really funny.

Just changing the filters to bigger ones on my Injens made my car faster. Changing to JT made my car run better 60-130 times. A friend of mine with ECU tune had to increase the airflow limiter in the ECU because he was having more air after just increasing the filter size.

Not all intake designs are equal in regard to performance.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Changing to JT made my car run better 60-130 times.

Did you notice any difference in 0-60 performance when switching to the JTs or just 60-130?

 

[xot1]

Did you notice any difference in 0-60 performance when switching to the JTs or just 60-130?

I never do 0-60.

 

[Ozstung]

My research i read indicates that short ram intakes get air in quicker because there is less distance to travel. They were recommended for better times.

This i read after i purchased the JT cai.

 

[Mr. Tech]

My research i read indicates that short ram intakes get air in quicker because there is less distance to travel. They were recommended for better times.

This i read after i purchased the JT cai.

Yeah, I did a bunch of research as well and all I got was a bunch of people saying you don't see gains with aftermarket intakes, a bunch of other guys saying it only makes a difference at high speeds when drag racing, other people saying it's aftermarket is worse for daily driver cars, others saying it's worth it only on tuned cars, and still others saying it makes no difference regardless of tune. Then I saw countless videos of people just talking about how it sounded without a single person doing as much as a 0-60 test before and after.

My takeaway is that the results are dramatically different depending on the type of vehicle, size of the engine, how the car's stock intake was designed, and where the planets are currently aligned in the solar system.

From these forums, most people agree that an aftermarket intake does make a notable difference. I just don't know if I want to spend $800 and wait 10 weeks if I can get near identical performance for $400 and get it in a week. It's one of those "just because I CAN buy something, doesn't mean I SHOULD" type deals haha.

 

[WildBill]

Here are my draggy results. Same day, a couple hours apart, same section of road, both using launch control. Only difference was the Stillen intakes and a 8* in ambient temp.

Date	Condition	Temp	0-30	0-60
9/7/18	Stock	65	2.03	4.93
9/7/18	+Intake	58	2.05	4.81

I didn't do an average of 5 runs or anything like that. It wasn't a really long stretch where I could get a huge amount of speed up. I'm not saying that it is definitive. It is just what I have.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Here are my draggy results. Same day, a couple hours apart, same section of road, both using launch control. Only difference was the Stillen intakes and a 8* in ambient temp.

Date	Condition	Temp	0-30	0-60
9/7/18	Stock	65	2.03	4.93
9/7/18	+Intake	58	2.05	4.81

I didn't do an average of 5 runs or anything like that. It wasn't a really long stretch where I could get a huge amount of speed up. I'm not saying that it is definitive. It is just what I have.

Thanks for the datapoint! Did you have any other mods at the time?

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Thanks for the feedback, Kato! I was actually wondering, outside of grabbing the world record (congrats BTW!), did you feel/notice any difference when switching from your K&N kit to the JTs? Either in the form of stronger high end/low end pull? Or better/worse response for regular city driving? I've heard that some mods help for 1/4 mile times, but aren't as good for low end power when driving around town.

I'm never going to be driving my Stinger over 100MPH, roll racing on a highway, etc. I'd much rather have a ton of low end power for getting up to speed and have terrible higher end power than vice versa.

I know my 60ft improved, but that could just be from me improving on the launch.

 

[Mr. Tech]

I know my 60ft improved, but that could just be from me improving on the launch.

Alright, thanks for the feedback. One more question for you. I see in every Dragy slip that you pull over 1G when launching. Is that only when using the brake snip mod or does your Stinger pull that hard without the brake snip, just not as quickly?

EDIT: woah, wait. I just noticed that you don't have a Primary DP upgrade listed. I've heard people getting 25 to 45HP gains from just that mod. Are you thinking about getting that mod to try to get into the 10s?

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Alright, thanks for the feedback. One more question for you. I see in every Dragy slip that you pull over 1G when launching. Is that only when using the brake snip mod or does your Stinger pull that hard without the brake snip, just not as quickly?

EDIT: woah, wait. I just noticed that you don't have a Primary DP upgrade listed. I've heard people getting 25 to 45HP gains from just that mod. Are you thinking about getting that mod to try to get into the 10s?

Ok, so the 1G is a result of the snip. But I used today ch surprisingly hard even before it. Right now, I’m stock primaries, but I have a custom set of HFCs in transition me now.

 

[WildBill]

Thanks for the datapoint! Did you have any other mods at the time?

That's was my first mod so it was bone stock otherwise.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Ok, so the 1G is a result of the snip. But I used today ch surprisingly hard even before it. Right now, I’m stock primaries, but I have a custom set of HFCs in transition me now.

Good to know about the brake snip being "required" to pull 1G. That's too bad. I was really hoping to hit that without needing launch control and the brake snip. I wasn't expecting to hold 1G for nearly as long as with LC and the brake snip, but it would have been nice for even half that time haha.

I still have my fingers crossed that an ECU tuner cracks the code to allow for harder launches without the snip. One can dream.

Good luck with the HFCs! Hopefully that gets you into the 10s!

 

[Mr. Tech]

That's was my first mod so it was bone stock otherwise.

Good to know, thanks!

 

[Mr. Tech]

Having had K&N and now JT, JT Intakes are sooo much better. Love the performance, ease to remove the filters for recharging, and just look at them!

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I just saw this post. Those sure do look nice! Real quick, did you actually notice a performance increase when switching from the K&Ns? Or is it just the looks and fitment that's "soooo much better"?

 

[Luminary]

I just saw this post. Those sure do look nice! Real quick, did you actually notice a performance increase when switching from the K&Ns? Or is it just the looks and fitment that's "soooo much better"?

Honestly, and this all may be just in my head, but yes, I felt there was a performance increase over the K&N's. Nothing huge, but it did feel more responsive and a bit quicker. Again, probably all in my head and wishful thinking.

 

[NS_Stinger]

Here are my draggy results. Same day, a couple hours apart, same section of road, both using launch control. Only difference was the Stillen intakes and a 8* in ambient temp.

Date	Condition	Temp	0-30	0-60
9/7/18	Stock	65	2.03	4.93
9/7/18	+Intake	58	2.05	4.81

I didn't do an average of 5 runs or anything like that. It wasn't a really long stretch where I could get a huge amount of speed up. I'm not saying that it is definitive. It is just what I have.

This is probably the most conclusive data on this site in regards to the effectiveness of an intake on a stock Stinger. However if you're running JB4 the difference with and without an intake is supposed to be pretty dramatic on Map2 according to Burger Motorsports dyno testing.

Funny thing is I've decided to pull and sell my BMS intakes, almost all my driving is in the city and I'd prefer to just run the factory airbox since I think it's better for 0-30mph times. I'm not tuned and don't plan to tune at this point.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Honestly, and this all may be just in my head, but yes, I felt there was a performance increase over the K&N's. Nothing huge, but it did feel more responsive and a bit quicker. Again, probably all in my head and wishful thinking.

Haha, thanks for the honest response! Hopefully I'll experience the same, even if it's all in my head as well.

I see that you have some pretty big mods (WMI and a Lap3). Have you measured 0-60 with a Dragy or 1/4 mile times at a track? I'd be curious to see what you're getting with a setup like that.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Alright, after a boat load of research, I think I'm gonna go with the JTs. The cost difference over something like the Injens with snorkels or the K&Ns with snorkels is only $35 and $120, respectively. With the current conversion rates, the JTs are currently about $800 USD, shipped. Now I just have to be patient for 10 to 12 weeks haha).

Once I get them in, I'll do a before and after test with my Dragy and a JB4 to see how they compare to my DIY intakes. By that time, I'll also have my Mishi intercooler and Ark secondary DPs installed so my results may be better or worse than someone else's, depending on their mods.

 

[Travis Wills]

I have a numerous data points with a bone stock Stinger for 0-60 mph and the quarter mile with a dragy.

I am going to try the bigger mouth snorkel and some drop in K&N filters(otherwise stock) at Rockingham tomorrow in cooler temperatures.

I looked at the K&N filters just now and you can literally see daylight through them. That is VASTLY different than the stock filters.