GT 2 AWD NOT REALLY A STINGER!?!?

[Soca Boy]

So the 18” wheel is a all season package which limited to 130mph in the USA, which the buyer picks?

 

[StingerGTT]

Sign the Petition

maybe it will help maybe it wont worth a try.

 

[StingerGTT]

So the 18” wheel is a all season package which limited to 130mph in the USA, which the buyer picks?

most of us had no choice,no option,no information , no nothing just disappointment.

 

[General_Vodka]

Its just Kia's secret plan to make you all buy an ECU tune. Quick ticket to the modded lyfe.

 

[iclicku]

Sign the Petition

maybe it will help maybe it wont worth a try.

Actually I'm thinking this petition should be a thread on its own. @Kia Stinger , maybe this should be in the section to "letters to KIA?"

 

[Soca Boy]

most of us had no choice,no option,no information , no nothing just disappointment.

So from the dealership, may have to find someone with a tuner to disable it(make sure you have wheels rated for the speed your trying to achieve, and only go such speed in a safe and controlled environment).

 

[old cajun]

The KIA website clearly shows a limit of 130 mph with the 18" wheel and tire package.

 

[Segador]

All of this is true. But what it leaves out is that the roll-out of this car was/is very chaotic and unorganized. There was not as much info for early adopters. When the Korean spec models arrived at dealerships, and even to this day, we knew more about the car than they did. There were no commercials. As best I can remember the first commercial aired in February around the Super Bowl. That's a few months after the car launched.

That's where the big disconnect is. The later adopters say "Do your research. Kia mentions it brochures, commercials, etc." This is insulting to early adopters, who did do research, but the 137 limit was not in such a prominent place as it is now. Sure it may have existed in extremely fine print on a brochure that they weren't given, but it wasn't even on Kia's website until later. Yes caveat emptor applies, but Kia should fix this because they dropped the ball. Just my two cents. I don't have a dog in this fight; I'm in the market for the 2.0 anyway.

That dont mean that what you saying isn't true, or make since. I agree, I had a shortage sx before the stinger, 2.0 turbo charged and it would run 142mph. NO KIDDING! really liked that car, it would run up these mountains as fast as you care to go. Great in the snow, the awd was the best, kia really has one the best awd systems. Please read up on it , it will make you proud to own one. It outdone Subaru easy. Dont sell that 2.0 short, I believe if the top speed is a no issue, then the 2.0 turbo will make you happy.

 

[STNGRNV]

The KIA website clearly shows a limit of 130 mph with the 18" wheel and tire package.

Now.

 

[StingerGTT]

Actually I'm thinking this petition should be a thread on its own. @Kia Stinger , maybe this should be in the section to "letters to KIA?"

I have made the petition also available in letters to KIA remember numbers make changes happen everyone !

 

[KLR STINGER]

Anybody who bought any car, with expectations of driving it @ 140+, yet was totally oblivious to the fact it came on speed rated 18" all season tires frankly has no business driving a performance car, and DEFINITELY NOT AT 140+. If you were an uninformed buyer, that's your problem. Thank God KIA did the legal and appropriate and limited the speed governor to align to tire spec. Else I can't imagine how many idiot's would have killed themselves or other trying to show off how cool they were trying to hit 170 on all season tires cause the commercials said they could.( Fine print doesn't matter)

 

[StingerGTT]

that's not our point at all please move on KLR I'm not explaining our point to any YET again to anyone any more the people who follow this post understand and that's what matters here in this post.

Don't forget the petition in letters to KIA forum everyone !!!

 

[westcoastGT]

Anybody who bought any car, with expectations of driving it @ 140+, yet was totally oblivious to the fact it came on speed rated 18" all season tires frankly has no business driving a performance car, and DEFINITELY NOT AT 140+. If you were an uninformed buyer, that's your problem. Thank God KIA did the legal and appropriate and limited the speed governor to align to tire spec. Else I can't imagine how many idiot's would have killed themselves or other trying to show off how cool they were trying to hit 170 on all season tires cause the commercials said they could.( Fine print doesn't matter)

you are uninformed ! read the early threads ........................

 

[StingerGTT]

you are uninformed ! read the early threads ........................

Thank you West

 

[KLR STINGER]

Haha... Yes I read 25 pages.. And yes. I'm the uninformed one. I'm the one who bought a car wearing all season tires, imaging I was going to be racing around at speeds which require a skill and vehicle capability beyond 99% percent of drivers and cars.

I'm the one imagining I can no longer do that due to some perceived purposeful deceit on the part of KIA.

I'm the one imagining a world my poor understanding of the product should be remedied by the manufacture. (Not withstanding federal motor vehicle safety standards compelling the vehicles manufacturer comply with speed load ratings of its tires)

And see. That's the thing. This is an imagined problem. You've lost nothing. Your stinger is still the same great GT it always was.

Nowhere in North America one is legally permitted to drive any where near those speeds. If you bought your stinger to race at a track( and it would have to be a hell of a big track to reach 170 with 365hp) you would probably void your warranty and any legal obligation from Kia as it's not designed to be a race car. You might as well tune it then if you're racing

So again, what did you tangibly lose, not imagined? Seems like most people in this thread are upset over bragging rights, or that something they believed is no longer true. Your stinger is no less a quick accelerating, well appointed, great value GT. Is an amazing vehicle. Be happy.. Be proud.

If the one dude had not found out first hand and "TAKEN TO THE INTERNET" to complain, 99.99% of people would never have have known any different. So again I ask... What did you lose, and how was Kia responsible?

 

[StingerChick]

Haha... Yes I read 25 pages.. And yes. I'm the uninformed one. I'm the one who bought a car wearing all season tires, imaging I was going to be racing around at speeds which require a skill and vehicle capability beyond 99% percent of drivers and cars.

I'm the one imagining I can no longer do that due to some perceived purposeful deceit on the part of KIA.

I'm the one imagining a world my poor understanding of the product should be remedied by the manufacture. (Not withstanding federal motor vehicle safety standards compelling the vehicles manufacturer comply with speed load ratings of its tires)

And see. That's the thing. This is an imagined problem. You've lost nothing. Your stinger is still the same great GT it always was.

Nowhere in North America one is legally permitted to drive any where near those speeds. If you bought your stinger to race at a track( and it would have to be a hell of a big track to reach 170 with 365hp) you would probably void your warranty and any legal obligation from Kia as it's not designed to be a race car. You might as well tune it then if you're racing

So again, what did you tangibly lose, not imagined? Seems like most people in this thread are upset over bragging rights, or that something they believed is no longer true. Your stinger is no less a quick accelerating, well appointed, great value GT. Is an amazing vehicle. Be happy.. Be proud.

If the one dude had not found out first hand and "TAKEN TO THE INTERNET" to complain, 99.99% of people would never have have known any different. So again I ask... What did you lose, and how was Kia responsible?

Ok, I am going to give one attempt at the art of civility requested by the moderators.

Can anyone PLEASE explain why those who are not affected by the limiter problem cannot stop trolling this page?

The people who are involved with the AWD 18” package disagree with every point made by every person who has told us any of the following: you can’t drive that fast in the USA, *read the fine print (see below), it is on the website, I am fine with going 130, you are dumb, it is frivolous, bragging rights is not a right or anything else that has been already said by naysayers to the fact why you think we are an imbecile. (However, if it is a new idea in what we have missed please add because it is food for thought.)

The fact is we are talking about American customer’s, and if we want to proceed for whatever reason we choose we live in a country that gives us that freedom!! Great men have fought and died to provide us with rights.

Last, it is my understanding that this forum was developed to connect people; even if they want to join together with the attempt to seek change within KIA. (Even change you disagree with!)

One person pointed out that the American courts have set a precedence with the Ferrari case. (Thank you! Court precedence helps win cases.) When you compare most of the trollers on this page, the American courts have not set a precedent for most of your points. One I can think of is the idea of fine print. Which, many of us do not feel represented to the early buyers. (Despite reading and watching everything we could get our hands on.) The second, would be the concept of matching door jam information to the product. (I learned something here.)

Now, as a member of the forum, I am requesting that the TROLLING stop. These points have been made over and over. In closing, I would like to thank the few who have offered support or at least meaningful input such as a petition or the Ferrari case.

 

[KLR STINGER]

Given that the remediation you seek is not supported by law and contrary to fmvss regulation.... Complain to your heart's content. I didn't realize that the truth is trolling to some. The fact that you don't like the truth is not reason enough to tell others they shouldn't speak it. Freedom right?

 

[StingerGTT]

Thank you stinger chick well said like I said I AM NOT explaining myself again to these negative people who call me stupid or say what I'm trying to do is stupid for everyone helping me and backing me Thank you. This whole web page is full of people who want to belittle you and put you down there are a few awesome family orientated people on here which are awesome even if they don't agree they still support you and give u positive feedback. like said before I was in the Subaru family for 20 years and left to come to KIA I belonged to many subi forums and this would of been instantly squashed I love my KIA and I'm glad I made the change to the stinger but its almost like people here aren't equal and the I'm smarter than you attitude runs strong or why would u wanna do that its stupid attitude is even stronger well that needs to change we are Stinger owners for god sake support one another !!!!

 

[StingerChick]

Given that the remediation you seek is not supported by law and contrary to fmvss regulation.... Complain to your heart's content. I didn't realize that the truth is trolling to some. The fact that you don't like the truth is not reason enough to tell others they shouldn't speak it. Freedom right?

Trolling is against the fourms rules and as a member I perceive the brow whipping a form of aggressive trolling!

 

[KLR STINGER]

And if only your perception was reality you'd have your fix by now. Good bye and good luck.