GT 2 AWD NOT REALLY A STINGER!?!?

[CDv6]

The brochure that I assume every dealer had for the Stinger - I got mine early, before the US cars arrived (but the Korean spec cars were in the showrooms) iirc. The two different dealers I have visited for test drives also offered one to me - which I declined as I had one already.

It's about 30 pages, very nicely printed, contains lots of great info about the car and its development. The comment about reduced top speed in on the color and wheel selection page, second-to-last (pages are not numbered).

It might come down to whether any legal standard or precedent exists for making vehicle specifications available to potential buyers. Between the brochure and the website, is it an either/or, or do they need to contain the same level of detail? Certainly for decades the brochure was the only document provided to shoppers, but that hasn't been the case for probably the last 20 years.

 

[eflyguy]

There are disclaimers about being subject to change on just about every page, but (again) it is shown there.

 

[Segador]

sounds great please keep us informed of the out come and possible process for resolution thank you

To keep my word, I have a up date. I spoke to the CEO of PEAK KIA(Mike) again today. He wanted to up me on his progress. He said he spoke to Bill Wes (preferred customer rep.) Several engineers, and made his way out to Geremy (regional manager). He thinks so far, this might be a do able thing, but still had work to do. This seems very hopeful! First time I've had a smile on my face in weeks because of this car. I dont want to get to hopeful, just to have my hopes eaten by wolves and crapped off a cliff.

 

[English D]

I don't buy cars from looking only at the lease agreement, I research the car, spec it out and know exactly what I want and why. But I know others are emotional buyers and don't RTFP. So I am sending a suggestion to Kia that they buy a huge rubber stamp and stamp every brochure, every advertisement, every window sticker and every conceivable piece of paper even remotely related to the Stinger with the words:

CAUTION: STINGERS EQUIPPED WITH 18" ALL-WEATHER TIRES ARE SPEED LIMITED TO ONLY 130 MPH.

Then they need banners flying above the dealership so customers can see them before they drive onto the lot, and salespersons can see them as they come to work as a reminder that these cars are crippled to only double the national speed limit.

Sorry you guys missed the details. I didn't and I saw it many times. I hope the rebate you got pays for your attorney. Jeez.....

well back before the middle of Jan it was hidden on one of the many brochures on the 8th page. I have 3 brochures from back then and its not in them, it wasn't detailed anywhere else not on the web build site or in the marketing and the dealers were not informed until mid Jan as there was a memo sent to dealers bringing this to them after the fact, we did research and followed the almost year long marketing, and now after the fact they put it up on the web and in all material. I just wish they would have been a lot more transparent at launch. we paid as much as anyone else our cars were not discounted so why should we get less than you if you own one.

 

[English D]

To keep my word, I have a up date. I spoke to the CEO of PEAK KIA(Mike) again today. He wanted to up me on his progress. He said he spoke to Bill Wes (preferred customer rep.) Several engineers, and made his way out to Geremy (regional manager). He thinks so far, this might be a do able thing, but still had work to do. This seems very hopeful! First time I've had a smile on my face in weeks because of this car. I dont want to get to hopeful, just to have my hopes eaten by wolves and crapped off a cliff.

great news any details on him thinking this maybe do able...

 

[Segador]

great news any details on him thinking this maybe do able...

I believe if it was left up to Mike, he would just change it all back, but he was worried about the warranty.

 

[Segador]

well back before the middle of Jan it was hidden on one of the many brochures on the 8th page. I have 3 brochures from back then and its not in them, it wasn't detailed anywhere else not on the web build site or in the marketing and the dealers were not informed until mid Jan as there was a memo sent to dealers bringing this to them after the fact, we did research and followed the almost year long marketing, and now after the fact they put it up on the web and in all material. I just wish they would have been a lot more transparent at launch. we paid as much as anyone else our cars were not discounted so why should we get less than you if you own one.

That is what all this is about!!! I did not get a refund, or golf coupons. We paid the same, just make the car the same! I agree with you a 100%.
That was one thing, I believe Mike was worried about. That I would want money, i told him no, just fix my stinger..

 

[StingerGTT]

That is what all this is about!!! I did not get a refund, or golf coupons. We paid the same, just make the car the same! I agree with you a 100%.
That was one thing, I believe Mike was worried about. That I would want money, i told him no, just fix my stinger..

agreed I Don't want any money I just want it put back to normal I'm not looking for a penny.

 

[StingerChick]

Read my first line, please.

Caveat emptor. If you believe a salesman, or if you fail to RTFP (Read The Fine Print) when you sign a contract, you get that to which you tacitly agree. I'm sorry you think you've been screwed. Ask your attorney if you have a case. The information has always been there, they're just using bigger letters now.

You are no Einstein your just annoying. Kinda like a piss ant.

 

[StingerChick]

If you believe that people buy stingers with no consideration to how fast it will go, then I figured out what happen, you got lost, and the Rio forum is looking for you!
Further more you were not there when I dropped the cash for my car. So you have no idea what was said or done. You need to go speak at Fred's church of the Buy Fast and Go Slow. I have spoke to a contract lawyer and believes it's a good case. My problem is I come from a part of this great country where we settle things a different way. Lawyers are for people that cannot stand up for themselves, now go away and let the Grown ups talk.

I think a Rio is too fast for the piss ant. I read my contracts and it did not say any place on the papers I signed! It is bull crap like this that is making it ok to hide print in one broucher that my dealer never had available to general public. They gave it to me inside my car after I signed the papers which did not say a flipping thing about bend over... I agree he should leave this topic

 

[StingerChick]

well back before the middle of Jan it was hidden on one of the many brochures on the 8th page. I have 3 brochures from back then and its not in them, it wasn't detailed anywhere else not on the web build site or in the marketing and the dealers were not informed until mid Jan as there was a memo sent to dealers bringing this to them after the fact, we did research and followed the almost year long marketing, and now after the fact they put it up on the web and in all material. I just wish they would have been a lot more transparent at launch. we paid as much as anyone else our cars were not discounted so why should we get less than you if you own one.

However, the Einstein (piss ant) and other naysayers seem to know everything! They do not get how early we bought. How close we followed. No, they just want to make it ok to get screwed over! It was called false marketing and deception. As far as not being a company use to people buying for performance; if you want to run with the big dogs know the business. Next, their lawyer knew the hot water they was getting in to hence the reason they changed the build page in Feb.

 

[StingerGTT]

However, the Einstein (piss ant) and other naysayers seem to know everything! They do not get how early we bought. How close we followed. No, they just want to make it ok to get screwed over! It was called false marketing and deception. As far as not being a company use to people buying for performance; if you want to run with the big dogs know the business. Next, their lawyer knew the hot water they was getting in to hence the reason they changed the build page in Feb.

You go girl ( mic drop) You need to come with us to the dealer !!! As you have noticed I got this thread going again cuz I was probly one of the most recent to get it up the pooper and lied to people are blaming me for not using Siri and google to do my research first cuz I put my trust in the human selling me the car to inform me about everything. I saw this car driving by the dealer and wanted it so I stopped in and bought it asked all my questions and I informed the salesman I was big into performance and speed and I was still NOT told about its limp Dic*.

 

[AV8R]

Regardless you don’t call members piss ants, check the rules of the forum. No one person is an expert in this forum so personal attacks are a major no no. I think every one needs to calm down.

 

[Never thought]

hey folks,

You shouldn’t tell other people that they should be upset or shouldn’t be upset about this. We all bought this car for different reasons and like/dislike different things about the Stinger. If the guy wants to sue Kia, and he has a lawyer willing to do it, who are we to give him grief for doing so?

On another note, this thread is becoming so negative I think it should be locked, imo.

 

[Kia Stinger]

Let me tell you something. I promise you the next person who posts a personal attack on ANYONE - OR - EVEN ENCOURAGES or LIKES a personal attack on anyone - WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS SITE.

You are here for noble reasons - to get a point across - and to potentially get Kia involved with removing your speed limiter. If you want to continue with this endeavor - you will absolutely not continue to personally attack ANYONE on this site.

I promise you - I don't care WHO it is. The next person who posts or likes a personal attack is gone forever...

 

[AV8R]

Thankyou Sal! This thread would have to be the most negative I’ve read since I joined.

 

[English D]

Thankyou Sal! This thread would have to be the most negative I’ve read since I joined.[/QUOTE

I agree to a certain point but there are a few of us that are communicating well and using this to share info, while I agree in the use if fowl language is wrong! I don't think banning for liking or disliking a post is a good way to go that's why those buttons are there we should be able to like to dislike anything we want. moderate the people that don't have anything constructive to add to the post we are just trying to get a resolution and I don't care for someone that posts we were dumb for not reading or researching, emphay is the way to post if your not effected not criticism. moderate the trolls and please don't punish the few that are using this to get a resolution

I agree to a certain point but there are a few of us that are communicating well and using this to share info, while I agree in the use if fowl language is wrong! I don't think banning for liking or disliking a post is a good way to go that's why those buttons are there we should be able to like to dislike anything we want. moderate the people that don't have anything constructive to add to the post we are just trying to get a resolution and I don't care for someone that posts we were dumb for not reading or researching, emphay is the way to post if your not effected not criticism. moderate the trolls and please don't punish the few that are using this to get a resolution

 

[Kia Stinger]

I agree to a certain point but there are a few of us that are communicating well and using this to share info, while I agree in the use if fowl language is wrong! I don't think banning for liking or disliking a post is a good way to go that's why those buttons are there we should be able to like to dislike anything we want. moderate the people that don't have anything constructive to add to the post we are just trying to get a resolution and I don't care for someone that posts we were dumb for not reading or researching, emphay is the way to post if your not effected not criticism. moderate the trolls and please don't punish the few that are using this to get a resolution

The liking of actions that break the rules, fuel the fire. It will not be tolerated. This thread only.

We are tired of coming back to this thread with non-stop complaints. Have the discussion civilly or not at all.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

That guy has been trolling them for quite a while. It was only a matter of time until someone responded to his microagression.

He should never have been allowed to carry on belittling their problem for as long as he did.

 

[westcoastGT]

.............weathertech !