Discussion of Stinger paint quality (Was - Paint Chip Issue)

[ShannonC]

2019 White Stinger. 1200 miles. Have headlight rub issue as discussed, but not too worried about it. This is way more worrying. Paint is blistering on the back passenger door. Bottom back corner. I looked at the inner seams on this door and others. Bubbles/blisters are popping up on passenger side doors. They are all soft to the touch with what feels like just air behind them. At first I though some were just weld spots, but the paint is actually bubbled. I fear that if left they will pop and expose the bare metal. This outside door blisters were not on the car day one. It has just come up in the last week of my first month of ownership. I am very concerned that this will keep happening as time goes on. I already notice that the rear driver side door has a small bump. I bet after a month or so it will look the same. Looking at them now, it seems small and not that big of a deal, but my thought is as time goes on without repair they will just get worse. Also I am OCD.

I am going to the dealer next week.

The blisters on the inside "issue" has been discussed before. It's simply excess sealing compound where the door skin was jointed. It isn't a problem and shouldn't get worse. In hindsight, Kia should have hand finished all joints prior to painting.
I'm interested to learn what your dealer says.

 

[supershanesta]

The blisters on the inside "issue" has been discussed before. It's simply excess sealing compound where the door skin was jointed. It isn't a problem and shouldn't get worse. In hindsight, Kia should have hand finished all joints prior to painting.
I'm interested to learn what your dealer says.

I am not very concerned about the ones on the inside door skin seam, more so the door paint blistering. I will still see what they have to say about the inside ones though.

 

[MerlintheMad]

The only area that I'd be all over is the outside edge. The inside "bubbles" are not going to cause a problem. If you are absolutely sure the outside edge wasn't there (instead of you just noticing it later), then that is troublesome to say the least. If they were there all the time, likely they are drips. That happens very occasionally in a mass spraying operation, overseen by imperfect human inspectors, etc.

 

[Killianz26]

Well, after my latest run around with the dealerships,body shop and customer support, I finally filled out a report on carcomplaints.com
It's too bad, this car is fantastic but the paint issue coupled with questionable service at the dealerships seems to overshadow all the positives of the car so far.

 

[Metalmania82]

Question for those who have gotten PPF:

How long have you had it on the car, both mileage and months, and how is it holding up, how happy or unhappy are you with it?

Reason I ask is because I'm not very familiar with PPF, having never had it installed on any previous cars, and I'm not happy with how it's ended up. I bought the car this past August, had PPF installed less than a month later on the front bumper only. Car was kept in the garage November through mid March for winter, only has 3600 miles currently. There are a number of edges that have peeled back a bit, the worst being at the bottom lip near the bottom grille, where you can see dirt build up. Almost every single edge has a section that is peeling back in some degree. The brake duct grilles are pretty bad as well, with dime size sections peeled up and now holding dirt. Is it unreasonable to expect a 100% perfect job, considering the shape and angles of the bumper and just the type of work it is?

ALSO, I thought these films came pre-cut and shaped to the car and panel it will be installed on, as one big piece? There's a very clear line where it seems that the single piece was not attached all the way around and meets at this cut section.

Any insight would be appreciated.


Thanks

 

[supershanesta]

Hey Guys,

Just thought I would post again. After looking at the blisters and thought about it, It very well might have been there before. I went over every inch of the car when I bought it, but I could have missed it. If I ask them to re-paint the door and front bumper for these super small imperfections, they might just make it worse and f**k up the new paint they apply. I think this thread is extremely helpful, but I also think it is bad for people like me with OCD and have a new car because.... nothing is perfect. Having some headlight rub or a small paint drip is not enough to warrant a repaint in my opinion or deem a car as having terrible paint issues.

Now for other people with real paint issues, I think you are right it what you are doing, but for me, looking at extreme detail for anything I can find regarding paint quality not so much. Although this thread is helpful, I think it scares everyone into being overly protective.

I am going to cancel my appointment and wait for my first or second oil change to have them take a look.

 

[ShannonC]

Hey Guys,

Just thought I would post again. After looking at the blisters and thought about it, It very well might have been there before. I went over every inch of the car when I bought it, but I could have missed it. If I ask them to re-paint the door and front bumper for these super small imperfections, they might just make it worse and f**k up the new paint they apply. I think this thread is extremely helpful, but I also think it is bad for people like me with OCD and have a new car because.... nothing is perfect. Having some headlight rub or a small paint drip is not enough to warrant a repaint in my opinion or deem a car as having terrible paint issues.

Now for other people with real paint issues, I think you are right it what you are doing, but for me, looking at extreme detail for anything I can find regarding paint quality not so much. Although this thread is helpful, I think it scares everyone into being overly protective.

I am going to cancel my appointment and wait for my first or second oil change to have them take a look.

I think you should keep your dealer appointment and get it documented now rather than later.

 

[Revvdmedia]

I think you should keep your dealer appointment and get it documented now rather than later.

I agree. I'm not sure there would be any weight behind trying to have claims covered outside of warranty, but I think early documentation could help later claims. I have deliberately pursued the dealer and have concerns like the sunroof noises documented as early as possible. In my mind, raising a concern very early in the car's life makes it harder for a dealer to try to claim something as "not a problem" or "wear and tear" down the road when there was a quality concern raised when the car is still "new."

 

[supershanesta]

I think you should keep your dealer appointment and get it documented now rather than later.

I agree. I'm not sure there would be any weight behind trying to have claims covered outside of warranty, but I think early documentation could help later claims. I have deliberately pursued the dealer and have concerns like the sunroof noises documented as early as possible. In my mind, raising a concern very early in the car's life makes it harder for a dealer to try to claim something as "not a problem" or "wear and tear" down the road when there was a quality concern raised when the car is still "new."

Good points. Ill go.

 

[MerlintheMad]

How long have you had it on the car, both mileage and months, and how is it holding up, how happy or unhappy are you with it?

Over ten months, and over 19K miles on the car (c. 4K miles before the PPF). I am completely satisfied with the 3M.

There are a number of edges that have peeled back a bit, the worst being at the bottom lip near the bottom grille, where you can see dirt build up. Almost every single edge has a section that is peeling back in some degree. The brake duct grilles are pretty bad as well, with dime size sections peeled up and now holding dirt. Is it unreasonable to expect a 100% perfect job, considering the shape and angles of the bumper and just the type of work it is?

That sucks. I have had exactly one edge lift (not peel back), just in front of the right brake vent (on the side, not the brake scoop in the front bumper: I have full frontal PPF back to the windshield). This occurred within a couple weeks of install. I called the installer and he said that probably the entire fender would have to be recovered if I insisted on that being corrected. I decided it wasn't enough to bother with. No other edges have shown lifting/peeling. So I am thinking from your description that you got a bum deal on the install. Can you take it back and tell your story and see if they'll redo it? It, the product and installation, should be guaranteed.

ALSO, I thought these films came pre-cut and shaped to the car and panel it will be installed on, as one big piece? There's a very clear line where it seems that the single piece was not attached all the way around and meets at this cut section.

My understanding is that there is a Stinger kit. Most installations use this. Some "elite" installers (more expensive labor cost?) do their own cutting. There isn't one big piece on the patterns made for the Stinger, but the installers who start from scratch use one big piece.

Good luck on this! Let us know what you find out.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Good points. Ill go.

I agree, nothing wrong with talking about imperfections that you notice early.

And I also agree with you, that perspective is better than OC. Weighing cost and outcome. Effort and results. The lifted edge on my PPF (that I mentioned above) is a good example: the imperfection is not serious enough to warrant attempting to remove an entire section of PPF. I don't like waste. And I don't know if something could go wrong. I also don't like the idea that part of my PPF is newer than the rest. That's kind of OC in its own way.

 

[Peeso33]

Good points. Ill go.

From your picture one of the paint blaster seems to be cracked already, I would go just to get it documented. You wouldn't want them to say it's debris chip, then moisture got underneath it, and caused it to bubble. Paint warranty is only 3 years iirc.

It would probably give you a chance to see how the service dept is too. 2 weeks ago, went to Garden Grove for my 6K service. Was initially told $185 for a 6K service. Then, I was told it didn't include tire rotation (side to side) or cabin air filter either. wtf $185 for synthetic oil change? After much complaining, they lowered it to $125.

 

[Metalmania82]

Good luck on this! Let us know what you find out.

Thanks! It's supposedly lifetime warranty so we'll see how that goes. I'll be contacting him soon here and see how it goes.

 

[eflyguy]

 

[Ruturaj]

Just found this

 

[MerlintheMad]

Just found this

Where is that?

 

[Ruturaj]

Where is that?

Driver side rear door. My car is 2019 GT2.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Driver side rear door. My car is 2019 GT2.

Dents, Dings, and Scratches Thread Someone dug this thread up. Contribute! It'll ease the aggravation.

 

[GRStinger]

Backstory: 2018 GT2 AWD with numerous rust spots all over vehicle. Leased the vehicle at 4200 miles (demo) and it now has 5200 miles on it and have only had it 2 months.
UPDATE: I took it to a local dealer where a Kia rep looked at the vehicle. I just received word that they will repaint the vents, however the rest of the paint issue is not covered under warranty. They feel "The rust spots all over the vehicle are not a paint defect and therefore not under warranty". I am beyond irritated now. I took a chance on Kia and it looks like now I'll be regretting that choice. Any other thoughts? I am thinking of contacting a Lemon Law Attorney in my home state of Michigan. I love this vehicle but come on these many rust spots on a vehicle at less than 6k miles? No way.

I had/have the same hood-lip paint issue as you - exactly the same problem in exactly the same spot. I have red as well. I did not have any other 'rust' spots, but have other very small chips that need to be fixed. I took the time to go thru this vast threat and other posts on the forum and found at-least 1/2 dozen other owners with the exact same hood-lip problem exact same spot. I opened two cases with Kia, and I was absolutely pissed-off about the way I was treated by Kia and their lack of interest to make it right. In fact, the "customer care" person I dealt with ridiculed the pictures that I copied from this forum as "random". Kia totally f'ed up the paint and/or material handling after painting. They know it. It's beyond disappointing. Everything else about this car is great. How could they screw-up such basic blocking-and-tackling as paint?! Love the car, but would caution others about this problem, which is by far the biggest problem for the Stinger. It's definitely knocked down my enthusiasm a notch.

 

[supershanesta]

Went to the dealership. They said the would fix both issues.
1. Headlight rub
2. Door paint bubbles.

They had no issue repairing both, but said I should do it sooner rather than later. Will wait to see for a month. I don't think it is bad enough for repair.