Burger Tuning JB4 for Kia Stinger!

[Terry@BMS]

Would need the csv to offer any tuning advice. You can post it to n54tech with detail.

Canadian "94 octane" is more like 89 octane I would not run stock tuning on that crap fuel. Use the 91 there.

Don't change any settings other than what we've documented to change in the Kia JB4 thread.

 

[Metalmania82]

Hoping @Terry@BMS or another user can help.

Just finished installing JB4 kit with fuel wires and Bluetooth adapter. Having issues getting it to connect. Phone See's the JB4 available as a new Bluetooth device but when I go to connect and use PIN 1234, it says failed to connect and to check the Bluetooth device. If I open the app and hit connect, it goes through it's process and handshake procedure. Gauges come up but there is nothing moving.

I feel like I might be missing something super obvious in getting the connection right??

 

[Get Stung]

Do you have the obd cable connected?
also if 1234 doesnt work I believe the other default pin is 0000

 

[Adamdan]

Would need the csv to offer any tuning advice. You can post it to n54tech with detail.

Canadian "94 octane" is more like 89 octane I would not run stock tuning on that crap fuel. Use the 91 there.

Don't change any settings other than what we've documented to change in the Kia JB4 thread.

Thanks I will give shell 91 a try. What do suggest I do I’m getting a small amount of knock on the map one. I’ll be happy if I can even get map one working with no knock. I put the fuel all to 0 again and I can still get it to do it. Should I remove the fuel wires all together? I have to run out this tank of 94 then hopefully 91 will do the trick. If not that’s going to be a bummer.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Like was suggested take a deep breath, stop changing things, post a log on map 1 with the default settings to n54tech so I can see if anything looks wrong. And change the fuel asap.

 

[Adamdan]

Like was suggested take a deep breath, stop changing things, post a log on map 1 with the default settings to n54tech so I can see if anything looks wrong. And change the fuel asap.

Will do, I’m away from the weekend and the car (a good break). I have a couple of pulls on my phone I can post to n54tech.

Thanks for the help.

 

[MekstingerGT]

Where do you go to find knock count?

 

[Adamdan]

Where do you go to find knock count?

I can just hear it pinging not sure how to even see it on the app.

 

[Adamdan]

Do any of you guys have any of your logs you can post? I just want to compare with what I’m seeing on mine. My AFR from 3000-4500 goes from 13:1 to 12:1 then gets into the 11:5 higher rpm. I was going to post my log but it looks like I need a computer to post those. I’m on a long ferry ride with nothing but my thoughts.... it’s pretty painful.

 

[Hung tran]

That sound normal to me.

 

[washguy]

I’m on a long ferry ride with nothing but my thoughts.... it’s pretty painful.

Imagine its pretty painful for the fairy too ! Wash

 

[Adamdan]

Imagine its pretty painful for the fairy too ! Wash

Haha

 

[Terry@BMS]

From the limited data I can see AFR looks normal here. 14:1 during lean spool mode, 13s at peak torque, high 11s at peak HP. Ignition looks normal indicating no timing pull (DME reaction to knock). Not sure what you are hearing but map1 is pretty conservative. Then again that Canadian 94 is pretty crap fuel. Probably your issue.

All performance maps including map1 use the fuel bias settings if equipped with the fuel wires.

 

[Adamdan]

From the limited data I can see AFR looks normal here. 14:1 during lean spool mode, 13s at peak torque, high 11s at peak HP. Ignition looks normal indicating no timing pull (DME reaction to knock). Not sure what you are hearing but map1 is pretty conservative. Then again that Canadian 94 is pretty crap fuel. Probably your issue.

All performance maps including map1 use the fuel bias settings if equipped with the fuel wires.

Thanks for the info. The times I heard knock in that mode was when I did full throttle and as it was gearing down I could hear it. Also I geared down to second and mashed the throttle. So sudden changes in throttle. I’ll change my fuel and get more log info next week. Thanks again for having a look.

 

[Metalmania82]

Do you have the obd cable connected?
also if 1234 doesnt work I believe the other default pin is 0000

OBD plug is in on both ends. I'm 99.9% sure everything is connected tightly.

@Terry@BMS any help?

 

[StungBlueGT2]

OBD plug is in on both ends. I'm 99.9% sure everything is connected tightly.

@Terry@BMS any help?

Does it act the same way with the car on as off? Or with ignition on and car off too?

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Hoping @Terry@BMS or another user can help.

Just finished installing JB4 kit with fuel wires and Bluetooth adapter. Having issues getting it to connect. Phone See's the JB4 available as a new Bluetooth device but when I go to connect and use PIN 1234, it says failed to connect and to check the Bluetooth device. If I open the app and hit connect, it goes through it's process and handshake procedure. Gauges come up but there is nothing moving.

I feel like I might be missing something super obvious in getting the connection right??

Which gauges do you have up on the app? Also, did you run a log while on one of the maps to see if it’s at least “reading” your car’s outputs?

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

Would need the csv to offer any tuning advice. You can post it to n54tech with detail.

Canadian "94 octane" is more like 89 octane I would not run stock tuning on that crap fuel. Use the 91 there.

Don't change any settings other than what we've documented to change in the Kia JB4 thread.

I find it interesting that on three previously (recent) tuned turbo engine cars (custom tuning using the Cobb Accessport), all three vehicles started with 93 octane tunes supplied by U.S. based tuners, and when submitting data logs, all three tuners modified the tune to supply more power, attributed, in all three cases, to the fact that I exclusively run the "garbage" Canadian 94 octane fuel, and in all three cases, those fine tuning revisions resulted in a noticeable "seat of the pants " improvement in acceleration. It's also interesting that two local tracks (Calabogie Motorsports Park, and Mosport Motorsports Park) both sell the "garbage" Canadian 94 octane fuel as well as several grades of 100 octane and higher race fuels. Neither track sells the "superior" 89 octane fuel, or the "phenomenal, stupendous, incomparable" 91 octane fuel.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I find it interesting that on three previously (recent) tuned turbo engine cars (custom tuning using the Cobb Accessport), all three vehicles started with 93 octane tunes supplied by U.S. based tuners, and when submitting data logs, all three tuners modified the tune to supply more power, attributed, in all three cases, to the fact that I exclusively run the "garbage" Canadian 94 octane fuel, and in all three cases, those fine tuning revisions resulted in a noticeable "seat of the pants " improvement in acceleration. It's also interesting that two local tracks (Calabogie Motorsports Park, and Mosport Motorsports Park) both sell the "garbage" Canadian 94 octane fuel as well as several grades of 100 octane and higher race fuels. Neither track sells the "superior" 89 octane fuel, or the "phenomenal, stupendous, incomparable" 91 octane fuel.

Few things to keep in mind and probably different than your other cars.

The 3.3TT was designed for premium fuel and will already pull power if using 89. Maybe this is because the Stingers power is underrated and it’s already pushing the limits of octane based on moderately high boost levels(12-14psi stock). If the chip/tune is adding another 4-8psi then you need higher octane and ideally in the 93-96 range to prevent detonation.

Also Terry’s JB4 got 417whp and 515wtq on 91 so I’m sure you’ll still see gains with 89, but why go against physics if 91+ is available?

 

[Terry@BMS]

I've tuned 100s of Canadian BMWs on "94 octane" over the years and it's often outperformed by the 91 octane those customers tell me they can easily get. It's your car. Run whatever you want to run on it. And it's easy to log/evaluate both to see what works best for your specific needs. But having been burned by that fuel on more than one occasion my advice to anyone who cares to hear it is to avoid it like the plague.