3.3T Turbo Oil Feed Line Recall 2024

[Beau]

Got my car back this morning. Everything looks good. I had about an hour drive home and had no issues nor did I notice any difference in the driving.
Besides the recall fix, they found the oil pressure switch was leaking into the harness causing it to short to ground. They replaced the oil pressure switch and the harness assy.

This is interesting..

I have a 2018 Stinger GT1. Back in June 2024, under the recall campaign, the dealership replaced the necessary pipe/hose assembly that feeds oil to the left-hand turbocharger. The recall concern being that it could deteriorate due to heat from the exhaust manifold and cause oil leaks.

Separately - I just took my vehicle back in due to the oil light coming on at stops. Turns out that the oil pressure switch is leaking onto the sub-harness. Total repair is $3,500. They said this is not related to the recall, as the oil pressure switch is on the opposite side from the turbocharger and the other related recalled parts/concerns.

Is this true? Or could it be that if others keep having this same issue, then it's somehow related and another potential recall issue?

This is not my area of expertise, and appreciate any feedback.

 

[Snicklefritz]

This is interesting..

I have a 2018 Stinger GT1. Back in June 2024, under the recall campaign, the dealership replaced the necessary pipe/hose assembly that feeds oil to the left-hand turbocharger. The recall concern being that it could deteriorate due to heat from the exhaust manifold and cause oil leaks.

Separately - I just took my vehicle back in due to the oil light coming on at stops. Turns out that the oil pressure switch is leaking onto the sub-harness. Total repair is $3,500. They said this is not related to the recall, as the oil pressure switch is on the opposite side from the turbocharger and the other related recalled parts/concerns.

Is this true? Or could it be that if others keep having this same issue, then it's somehow related and another potential recall issue?

This is not my area of expertise, and appreciate any feedback.

I call BS. $3,500 for using a socket wrench to replace a cheap part?

 

[D.J.]

This is interesting..

I have a 2018 Stinger GT1. Back in June 2024, under the recall campaign, the dealership replaced the necessary pipe/hose assembly that feeds oil to the left-hand turbocharger. The recall concern being that it could deteriorate due to heat from the exhaust manifold and cause oil leaks.

Separately - I just took my vehicle back in due to the oil light coming on at stops. Turns out that the oil pressure switch is leaking onto the sub-harness. Total repair is $3,500. They said this is not related to the recall, as the oil pressure switch is on the opposite side from the turbocharger and the other related recalled parts/concerns.

Is this true? Or could it be that if others keep having this same issue, then it's somehow related and another potential recall issue?

This is not my area of expertise, and appreciate any feedback.

Can you ask them, demand politely, for a picture of the so-called leak?

How large are the puddles under your car every time you park?

I'm going to go ahead and state my educated opinion here, you don't have a leak.

You may possibly have a defective oil pressure switch, but I highly doubt it is leaking. Where do they think the oil is leaking to?

I do, have a video, captured in HD 1080p 60 FPS, of a Kia dealership CREATING an oil leak on my oil pressure switch......

I have not shared it yet anywhere, because of a friendly agreement between myself and the dealerships manager.

Maybe I will edit and non-incriminating version of the video to show how they created the oil leak that doesn't exist...


But back to your issue, seriously, how large are the oil stains under your car, from your alleged oil leak?

 

[Kodiack]

From my experience a failed oil pressure sensor is due to an oil leak in the seal between the contact sensor and the wiring connector, its that leak that causes a low reading of the pressure at the sensor at idle. I have replaced a few and every one I have done shows signs of the leaking oil in the wiring connector where it passes the failed seal. The stinger has the oil pressure sensor in between the V where it would have to be a large seal failure for it to actually fill that space and drip off the engine.
Not sure how they could cause this seal in the pressure sensor to fail unless they actually broke or cracked the sensor itself.

 

[D.J.]

Not sure how they could cause this seal in the pressure sensor to fail unless they actually broke or cracked the sensor itself.

Through 100% fraudulent scamming activity... I am editing the video presently, standby....

 

[D.J.]

Not sure how they could cause this seal in the pressure sensor to fail unless they actually broke or cracked the sensor itself.

This is how.
They didn't so much as, cause the sensor to fail. They just, CLAIMED the sensor had failed.

 

[Kodiack]

This is how.
They didn't so much as, cause the sensor to fail. They just, CLAIMED the sensor had failed.

Shocking is an understatement......

 

[Alpinesting]

Sketchy and shocking indeed. This is really disturbing from an actual dealership who is bound by a contract to sell the brands vehicles and honor the new car warranties that come from the factory. No oversite by the management or dealership owner. Wow.

 

[redbear04]

Thanks everyone for your inputs. So an update to the situation and asking for any advice on how to proceed:

My engine started knocking after about 3 days of the dealership replacing the oil sensor and sub assembly. I had it towed back to the dealer and after a week they're saying it needs a full engine replacement. The dealer offered to cover the cost of all the materials (~$16,000), and are asking that I pay just the labor rate, equating ~$3,500. The knocking is caused by "drop bearing failure and metal in the oil pan."

Few concerns I have:

- there were no issues prior to me bringing this in for the oil feeder hose recall, and somehow I'm all the way at a full engine swap. With them performing that recall work and replacing the oil pressure sensor, is there anything that would cause the catastrophic engine failure? Or a way to link the replacement requirement back to those repairs?

- will the new engine will destroy the resale value in the future? I have no intentions of selling, but just a thought

- Do I need to get an attorney?

I'm at such a loss, and while they're not charging me for material, $3,500 for labor on a repair that may not have ever been required is INSANE!

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice!

 

[HDTurbo]

Sorry to hear this! You might want to look at what are small claims minimums in your area. That said, $3500 is unfortunately low, and legal fees might preclude...
Others will weigh in, I'm sure.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Replacing oil sensor requires removal of intake manifold. Maybe something got inside the cylinder and caused that problem. So, while it is possible to destroy the engine while Replacing oil sensor, the more important part, how do you prove it.

 

[D.J.]

Thanks everyone for your inputs. So an update to the situation and asking for any advice on how to proceed:

My engine started knocking after about 3 days of the dealership replacing the oil sensor and sub assembly. I had it towed back to the dealer and after a week they're saying it needs a full engine replacement. The dealer offered to cover the cost of all the materials (~$16,000), and are asking that I pay just the labor rate, equating ~$3,500. The knocking is caused by "drop bearing failure and metal in the oil pan."

Few concerns I have:

- there were no issues prior to me bringing this in for the oil feeder hose recall, and somehow I'm all the way at a full engine swap. With them performing that recall work and replacing the oil pressure sensor, is there anything that would cause the catastrophic engine failure? Or a way to link the replacement requirement back to those repairs?

- will the new engine will destroy the resale value in the future? I have no intentions of selling, but just a thought

- Do I need to get an attorney?

I'm at such a loss, and while they're not charging me for material, $3,500 for labor on a repair that may not have ever been required is INSANE!

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice!

Sounds like they replaced the oil pressure switch WITHOUT first measuring the oil pressure...

It seems nobody measures the oil pressure, I have yet to hear/read of a single instance where they measured using the pressure access port.



Why are they offering to pay for the parts, but not the labour? This is suspicious! It's as if they are admitting some fault, but not willing to fix it at their cost.

Really bad situation.

 

[D.J.]

Replacing oil sensor requires removal of intake manifold. Maybe something got inside the cylinder and caused that problem. So, while it is possible to destroy the engine while Replacing oil sensor, the more important part, how do you prove it.

Or was the oil pressure actually low, and there was never a problem with the oil pressure sensor?

 

[Kodiack]

If something did get in the intake it wouldn't cause a bottom end piston bearing to go, it would destroy the intake valves. It would have to go into the cylinder past the rings before it could get to the bottom end...highly unlikely
Proving anything they did caused this would be extremely difficult.
Unless they sent you away with a very low level of oil or they contaminated the oil during the repair.
If they havent drained the oil all the way I would be asking for a sample of the oil.
Did they do a full oil change at the time of repair...wouldnt be shocked if they even put the wrong oil weight in the car

 

[D.J.]

Wouldn't be shocked if they even put the wrong oil weight in the car

Not excusing the action, but the wrong weight (0w20 instead of 5w30) would not cause significant engine damage in 3 days.

 

[Kodiack]

Not excusing the action, but the wrong weight (0w20 instead of 5w30) would not cause significant engine damage in 3 days.

I wouldnt think it would either..unless it was the other extreme higher weight with cold temps might cause low oil flow.
But even that is a huge leap in that amount of time.
However if they somehow got coolant in the oil from the oil sensor replacement and removal of the coolant crossover pipe than that could definitely cause that kind of damage.

 

[D.J.]

I wouldnt think it would either..unless it was the other extreme higher weight with cold temps might cause low oil flow.
But even that is a huge leap in that amount of time.
However if they somehow got coolant in the oil from the oil sensor replacement and removal of the coolant crossover pipe than that could definitely cause that kind of damage.

We may never know, but my money is still on, something was causing low oil pressure, prior to replacing the oil pressure switch, which was probably always working...

 

[Transmetal]

Had the recall done a week or two ago. Everything has been fine. The smoke smell after spirited driving has gone away. No coolant or oil leaks that I've noticed. Thankful that everything went smoothly.

 

[superflunker87]

My indy mechanic noticed an oil leak along the front left area of the engine. He wasn't sure where it originated from but took a photo. Do you think it's related to the turbo oil feed line?

https://imgur.com/a/qXXwYr0

 

[D.J.]

My indy mechanic noticed an oil leak along the front left area of the engine. He wasn't sure where it originated from but took a photo. Do you think it's related to the turbo oil feed line?

https://imgur.com/a/qXXwYr0

100% definitely not ..

But you can easily just clean all of that oil off, and then reinspect after a week or so of driving