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[D.J.]

Why are you uninstalling?
Selling?

 

[Dochidalgo]

I have a huge question that has probably already been answered.
In order to improve the performance of the suspension in curves and solidity in the rear axle provided by the anti-roll bars and the progressive springs, Mando device is able to match or improve that performance that I am looking for????
Thank you for your input.

 

[General_Vodka]

Mando helps you adjust your suspension softness to the level that you want. So yeah it can help in the handling department. I still would do actual hardware mods as well.

I have a huge question that has probably already been answered.
In order to improve the performance of the suspension in curves and solidity in the rear axle provided by the anti-roll bars and the progressive springs, Mando device is able to match or improve that performance that I am looking for????
Thank you for your input.

 

[DeltaV]

Why are you uninstalling?
Selling?

Hey. Just hit 10,000 miles. Longest I’ve kept a car. Time to go!


Actually, just running a test.

 

[D.J.]

I have a huge question that has probably already been answered.
In order to improve the performance of the suspension in curves and solidity in the rear axle provided by the anti-roll bars and the progressive springs, Mando device is able to match or improve that performance that I am looking for????
Thank you for your input.

Having full control of your electronic dampers is awesome. It is not the same as sway bars. It is different .

You can adjust your damping - by speed. So you can have drastically different characteristics above xx speed and different below yy speed.

So much control, which may intimidate some, and please others.

I love the adjustability and the ability to save several custome profiles. You can enable a profile with a simple tap!

 

[Dochidalgo]

Having full control of your electronic dampers is awesome. It is not the same as sway bars. It is different .

You can adjust your damping - by speed. So you can have drastically different characteristics above xx speed and different below yy speed.

So much control, which may intimidate some, and please others.

I love the adjustability and the ability to save several custome profiles. You can enable a profile with a simple tap!

I appreciate your information. I'm in the process to purchase a 2022 Stinger GT2 RWD. My 2018 Stinger GT2 RWD have installed the Eibach sway bars plus the springs combo, very pleased with those. With your imput I will install the Mando device in the new Stinger, and I really appreciate, if it is not a problem for you, to share your custom proflles in order to get an experience guide for my future adjustments. Have a good day.

 

[D.J.]

I appreciate your information. I'm in the process to purchase a 2022 Stinger GT2 RWD. My 2018 Stinger GT2 RWD have installed the Eibach sway bars plus the springs combo, very pleased with those. With your imput I will install the Mando device in the new Stinger, and I really appreciate, if it is not a problem for you, to share your custom proflles in order to get an experience guide for my future adjustments. Have a good day.

There isnt a good way to share the profiles that I'm aware of... Other than screenshots.



In fact - it kind of sucks that of I replace my phone - I loose the custom settings as I haven't found a way to export the files...

One of my custom setups looks like this.
4 screenshots is 1 profile
Ride - front and rear
Handling - front and rear





If there is an "EXPORT" function for these profiles, I am not aware of it. When I replaced my phone, I had to recreate the profiles on my new device

 

[turboAWD]

There isnt a good way to share the profiles that I'm aware of... Other than screenshots.



In fact - it kind of sucks that of I replace my phone - I loose the custom settings as I haven't found a way to export the files...

One of my custom setups looks like this.
4 screenshots is 1 profile
Ride - front and rear
Handling - front and rear


View attachment 70973


If there is an "EXPORT" function for these profiles, I am not aware of it. When I replaced my phone, I had to recreate the profiles on my new device

Just curious if you figured out the difference between "Ride" and "Handling"? I may have to re-read the entire thread

I want a custom setting for the track - super stiff is fine. But, just doing the "everything stiff" (both ride and handling set to like 75-80+, sometimes 95) makes it a little bouncy. Any thoughts on which to keep somewhat lower to get a "stiff" ride, but not as bouncy?

 

[DeltaV]

Note that if you don’t WANT to get so complicated, you can get a pretty good result by using the “Basic” tabs and setting front and rear stiffness to any number between 0 and 100.

What you lose is speed-dependent stiffness (and, perhaps, the ability to separately define “ride” vs “handling”…but it’s been a while since I used Basic, so I could be completely wrong).

Let me know if you want a bit of a deeper dive into the capabilities based on my findings. Didn’t want to bore you unnecessarily.

 

[DeltaV]

Just curious if you figured out the difference between "Ride" and "Handling"? I may have to re-read the entire thread

I want a custom setting for the track - super stiff is fine. But, just doing the "everything stiff" (both ride and handling set to like 75-80+, sometimes 95) makes it a little bouncy. Any thoughts on which to keep somewhat lower to get a "stiff" ride, but not as bouncy?

So this was one of the things I was going to address in a deeper dive, so…

Caveat: I’m no expert. I haven’t had either the Stinger or the Mando for long. I may be completely wrong and I welcome corrections. This is based on a few decades of suspension tuning for street cars on track days. YMMV.

While I haven’t found anything in the documentation or online, what makes sense, and what my basic testing showed, is that Ride is the stiffness for fast strut movements and Handling is the same for slow.

Hit a pothole? Fast strut movement. Perhaps a softer setting.

Braking? Corner turn-in? Slow strut movement. Stiffer might work best here.

This means you can have a compliant suspension most of the time but one that stiffens when you toss it into the corners.

Keep in mind both ride and handling over various speeds and with appropriate front to rear balance. In general, I find the rear axle too soft, stock …even in sport mode. You can fix this with the Mando.

And they make it easy. Along with the 4 (5?) stored settings you specify, they give you their suggested Sport and Comfort settings. Both are pretty good and both handle better, IMHO, than the stock Sport setting.

I’ve set and forgot my setup, but it was one that evolved in a thread here. I’ll try to find it.

 

[DeltaV]

Here is the thread:

What's your favorite Mando setting! Post it!

For those that have picked up this unit and are exploring the settings, post your favorite settings so others can compare and try out. I'm only a couple days in with mine and am still tweaking my settings. For now i've settled on a 35/40 (F/R) for ride comfort and 55/65 for handling to give my...

stingerforum.org

My default setting (sporty) was posted in post #177 by @Waynerm002 with much help by others including @D.J. right here.

 

[D.J.]

Just curious if you figured out the difference between "Ride" and "Handling"? I may have to re-read the entire thread

I want a custom setting for the track - super stiff is fine. But, just doing the "everything stiff" (both ride and handling set to like 75-80+, sometimes 95) makes it a little bouncy. Any thoughts on which to keep somewhat lower to get a "stiff" ride, but not as bouncy?

Ride is when going straight at relatively constant throttle

Handling is when one or more of many inputs cross a threshold
Yaw rate
Steering angle
Throttle position
Brake pressure
Many many possible inputs to determine the handling settings should be used.

Ride is essentially how it rides when driving normally.

Handling is the settings used for when doing something more aggressive.


I believe you ONLY have compression damping adjustment.
The rebound damping rate is a fixed non adjustable setting (there is only 1 adjuster per damper)

 

[DeltaV]

Ride is when going straight at relatively constant throttle

Handling is when one or more of many inputs cross a threshold
Yaw rate
Steering angle
Throttle position
Brake pressure
Many many possible inputs to determine the handling settings should be used.

Ride is essentially how it rides when driving normally.

Handling is the settings used for when doing something more aggressive.


I believe you ONLY have compression damping adjustment.
The rebound damping rate is a fixed non adjustable setting (there is only 1 adjuster per damper)

@D.J. took readings, so he’s righter than I am. And his settings, above, may be more applicable considering the additional time for experimentation.

 

[turboAWD]

Ride is when going straight at relatively constant throttle

Handling is when one or more of many inputs cross a threshold
Yaw rate
Steering angle
Throttle position
Brake pressure
Many many possible inputs to determine the handling settings should be used.

Ride is essentially how it rides when driving normally.

Handling is the settings used for when doing something more aggressive.


I believe you ONLY have compression damping adjustment.
The rebound damping rate is a fixed non adjustable setting (there is only 1 adjuster per damper)

Thanks. Any suggestions if I want a stiff setting for the track / flat cornering without too much bouncing or slower bouncing?

 

[D.J.]

Thanks. Any suggestions if I want a stiff setting for the track / flat cornering without too much bouncing or slower bouncing?

Probably something like this...

But maybe a smidge more damping on the handling

I do not track car at all, just some spirited street driving.

Something like this (basic) - non speed dependant - much easier to start with a basic profile, where it is the same damping throughout all speeds.

 

[turboAWD]

Probably something like this...

But maybe a smidge more damping on the handling

I do not track car at all, just some spirited street driving.

Something like this (basic) - non speed dependant - much easier to start with a basic profile, where it is the same damping throughout all speeds

Thanks! So easier on the ride, harder on handling. I think my brief attempt had those the other way around, which I didn't really like. I've been mostly running "everything at 85-90%", and it's a bit bouncy for my liking - and the car's too - too much bouncing causes the AWD to try to transfer power to the front too often, which actually upsets things more..

Not sure when my next track day will actually be - need to resolve some health issues first, but hopefully later this year again! I miss it a lot!

 

[DeltaV]

Probably something like this...

But maybe a smidge more damping on the handling

I do not track car at all, just some spirited street driving.

Something like this (basic) - non speed dependant - much easier to start with a basic profile, where it is the same damping throughout all speeds.


View attachment 70980

Hmm. Softer in the rear.

I’ve found that 10-15% stiffer in the rear gets rid of the hated wallowing, but I’m running softer and on tight mountain roads.

Oh, wait. With the pathetic camber up front, is this to minimize roll in the front to prevent standing up the outside tire so much? Neato!

I presume the roll center is higher in the rear, thus causing the excessive motion.

 

[nhcowboy28]

Hmm. Softer in the rear

Words to live by..

 

[dacious12]

This question has probably already been answered in this thread, but I read almost every single page and couldn’t find it. Does the ECS10 need constant power or accessory power? Also, what size fuse should be used?

 

[DeltaV]

I used an add-a-fuse in a 10 amp switched fuse.