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Stinger Enthusiast
What were you advised to ask?
For me, it doesn't matter too much given that regardless of whatever they tell me I still have to negotiate it down and then do the whole song and dance again after I decide to lease it. I can't imagine me saying anything one way or the other would get a truthful bottom dollar price from them anyway
I could be wrong. Short of someone acting rudely like the El Cajon dealership, however, my expectations are set about as low as possible. I have been a VW customer for so long not much surprises me anymore. That said, the worst had to be the Kia dealership that hard checked my credit without permission during a test drive and no matter who I spoke to at the dealership or credit bureaus there wasn't any way to remove the mark. Unless there's something higher than Tier 1 it's not impacting me negatively but it still hasn't rolled off so I'm annoyed by the principle of it.
I was advised to give them a decently low lowball price. I personally was thinking of giving them a % discount off msrp excluding discounts. However, I'm now reconsidering that strategy since you ran into the problem of a dealership potentially using some of the lease cash towards the % off msrp number lol.
And to your second point, I've seen people get protected from hard checks by stating they have their own bank, although they may be talking about finance only. I wonder if these credit checks are to determine only the MF (in which case, Mr dealer, charge me whatever MF you want because I'll buyout anyway!)