Intake Comparison

[washguy]

That's too hot for this pasty white Canadian ...

Steveco Why didn't you holler at me? Im in Dallas I couldhave taken you for some awesome BBQ Wash

 

[SteveCo]

Steveco Why didn't you holler at me? Im in Dallas I couldhave taken you for some awesome BBQ Wash

Sounds tempting - I'll keep that in mind if I end up back there.

We did go for lunch to a place that was close by in Desoto called Spring Creek BBQ, and I had the brisket 'with bark' - it was really good stuff.

 

[washguy]

Sounds tempting - I'll keep that in mind if I end up back there.

We did go for lunch to a place that was close by in Desoto called Spring Creek BBQ, and I had the brisket 'with bark' - it was really good stuff.

How many spring creek home made yeast rolls did ya eat? Wash

 

[Double D]

Steveco Why didn't you holler at me? Im in Dallas I couldhave taken you for some awesome BBQ Wash

Damn I miss some good Brisket!!

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Maybe, maybe not. Injen has been making intakes for a long time, and design them with a specific curve geometry and variable tubing diameters - presumably using a flow bench. That can make a considerable difference at different RPMs, and may very well be a factor in how they perform. Their published dyno numbers are certainly impressive, and they look (and sound) good as well.

Money isn't the only consideration - otherwise I'd be running black stamped steel wheels for my winter tire set ...

I don’t understand how you could say “maybe not” when many different people are getting the same exact results with professional intakes as the DIY versions. Almost everyone is reporting ~0.2 seconds off their times, and almost all intakes make similar HP gains.

I’m not saying Injen isn’t a great intake and possibly adds another 1-2hp over a DIY without heat shielding, but the biggest gains are from removing the restrictions of OEM intake box. The large stock tubing isn’t a restriction so mounting a filter directly to them like I did is about the same performance advantage as every other intake available. Only the SSR & JT intakes have a unique design to maximize airflow and they may provide a few extra HP in comparison, but paying $500-$800 more for a few HP isn’t logical to me. That’s $100-200 per HP and much better spent elsewhere. For that price you can get a JB4 with DIY intakes and add 10+ times the power...

I know my DIY intakes with heat shielding doesn’t look nearly as good as some professional intakes, but I’d put money on it that they perform as good if not better than most intakes available for our Stingers.

 

[Mr. Tech]

Hey Mr. Tech
Shaved 2 tenths off the k&nd...Stungblue has a great mod that works as good as the injun...save the 400 bills for another mod....do the DIY....the car lights up the tires at 40 mph with map2 and the intakes....dont throw away good money..... Wash
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Wow, those are some legit gains, and it looks professional You got part numbers for the elbows and filters in the picture (I'm assuming that's yours)?

 

[washguy]

Mr. Tech here's the thread for diy intakes.....read thru the posts...bout five or six down a member posted the parts list 3.3TT - DIY intakes w/Heat shielding drop about 0.2sec off 0-60 .... you can even get chrome elbows....lol.....I got all my parts from amazon and spent less than 80 bills.....the filters are directly in the path from the fresh air coming in....the sound is sweet...not overpowering.....and lighting the tires up at 40 mph without downshifting is most awesome!...now im thinkin with the money saved ill just get me some Ark down pipes from Nick,and see what the full meal does to the car.... Wash had a 4.3 0 to 60 the other day...need me some pipes!

86981K Spectre Universal Tube Elbow elbow in black part number and here is where you get the filters or amazon

 

[Theemfinger]

I had the diy intakes with spectre parts but ended up returning them and going with the AEM intake for $300 after MIR and discount. I’m sure the spectre was fine, but I was going to swap filters for the AEM ones, and at that point, with AEM filters, and trying to make a heat shield that would come out to like $150 in parts and still look questionable. I would rather just pay a bit more for it to look like it belongs and not be ashamed of opening my hood. The diy route sounded good though. Didn’t notice any performance increases really, but didn’t expect it.

The quality of the AEM kit is pretty good. The heat shields are metal, and pretty well built. The box everything came in was large and I wasn’t able to hide it from the wife. Th biggest downside is having to assemble the kit with all of the parts. I kind of wish it came mostly assembled out of the box. You have to install the fittings, the clamps, the weather stripping, etc. It didn’t take too long, but just another thing to do.

 

[Revvdmedia]

I don’t understand how you could say “maybe not” when many different people are getting the same exact results with professional intakes as the DIY versions. Almost everyone is reporting ~0.2 seconds off their times, and almost all intakes make similar HP gains.

I’m not saying Injen isn’t a great intake and possibly adds another 1-2hp over a DIY without heat shielding, but the biggest gains are from removing the restrictions of OEM intake box. The large stock tubing isn’t a restriction so mounting a filter directly to them like I did is about the same performance advantage as every other intake available. Only the SSR & JT intakes have a unique design to maximize airflow and they may provide a few extra HP in comparison, but paying $500-$800 more for a few HP isn’t logical to me. That’s $100-200 per HP and much better spent elsewhere. For that price you can get a JB4 with DIY intakes and add 10+ times the power...

I know my DIY intakes with heat shielding doesn’t look nearly as good as some professional intakes, but I’d put money on it that they perform as good if not better than most intakes available for our Stingers.

I'm curious to know your average IAT vs. ambient. My IAT get super heat soaked and only come down about 10-15F over a 1/4 mile run, but I'm running the filters in the lower half of the factory box with no heatshield. My IAT got as high as about 150F when the ambient was only about 75F, dropped to about 135F over the run. That sapped .4s off my 1/4 mile vs my best that day which was 113F over the run.

I plan to make heat shields and see how they do with my setup. I've heard the filters pull from the "area of least resistance," so I hope by having some type of heat shield, when in motion, the filters will draw more from the cold air entering the factory box rather than the hot engine bay air.

 

[SKStinger]

I'm curious to know your average IAT vs. ambient. My IAT get super heat soaked and only come down about 10-15F over a 1/4 mile run, but I'm running the filters in the lower half of the factory box with no heatshield. My IAT got as high as about 150F when the ambient was only about 75F, dropped to about 135F over the run. That sapped .4s off my 1/4 mile vs my best that day which was 113F over the run.

I plan to make heat shields and see how they do with my setup. I've heard the filters pull from the "area of least resistance," so I hope by having some type of heat shield, when in motion, the filters will draw more from the cold air entering the factory box rather than the hot engine bay air.

I still like my setup as these shields block the back half of the filter from the engine leaving only the front half exposed. With the VT snorkels, they should be drawing mostly cold air while in motion. I can tell because the face of the filters are dirty after limited use, especially nearest to the snorkel.

 

[JP's_Stinger]

I still like my setup as these shields block the back half of the filter from the engine leaving only the front half exposed. With the VT snorkels, they should be drawing mostly cold air while in motion. I can tell because the face of the filters are dirty already after limited use, especially nearest to the snorkel.

Must admit : this looks good! Solid DIY setup that you have there, pal

 

[Gtecko]

Once you get the Spectre shields, I dont see how the set up is different than your AEM ( or the BNS or K&N)...

 

[Gtecko]

Would that black elbow replaced the one in the DIY thread?

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I had the diy intakes with spectre parts but ended up returning them and going with the AEM intake for $300 after MIR and discount. I’m sure the spectre was fine, but I was going to swap filters for the AEM ones, and at that point, with AEM filters, and trying to make a heat shield that would come out to like $150 in parts and still look questionable. I would rather just pay a bit more for it to look like it belongs and not be ashamed of opening my hood. The diy route sounded good though. Didn’t notice any performance increases really, but didn’t expect it.

The quality of the AEM kit is pretty good. The heat shields are metal, and pretty well built. The box everything came in was large and I wasn’t able to hide it from the wife. Th biggest downside is having to assemble the kit with all of the parts. I kind of wish it came mostly assembled out of the box. You have to install the fittings, the clamps, the weather stripping, etc. It didn’t take too long, but just another thing to do.

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I like the design & shielding of the AEM intakes, my only concern is the tiny shorty filters. They look about 1/2 the size as the Spectres and almost a 1/3 the size of the Injen filters. That likely means means less airflow at higher RPMs & boost levels. That could effect HP gains near redline which is where big aftermarket filters gain the most power over stock. I bet the gains are still good, but doubt they would make the same 44whp gains near redline like big open air intakes have been proven to do.

I'm curious to know your average IAT vs. ambient. My IAT get super heat soaked and only come down about 10-15F over a 1/4 mile run, but I'm running the filters in the lower half of the factory box with no heatshield. My IAT got as high as about 150F when the ambient was only about 75F, dropped to about 135F over the run. That sapped .4s off my 1/4 mile vs my best that day which was 113F over the run.

I plan to make heat shields and see how they do with my setup. I've heard the filters pull from the "area of least resistance," so I hope by having some type of heat shield, when in motion, the filters will draw more from the cold air entering the factory box rather than the hot engine bay air.

Without my heat shielding mine get heat soaked pretty quick too and noticed a huge difference after adding the shielding. Without shielding mine run about 20-30 over ambient temps at idle and casual driving. After a few hard runs or sitting for a long period of time they will push to 40-50 over. However mine never go up to 150 even with 95deg ambient temps.

With shielding all those numbers drop another 10-20deg and won’t break 135 even after several hard runs. The biggest difference is how fast they cool down and will drop 20-30deg with a quick 40mph cruise down the street.

I know the heat shielding I use works extremely well because the metal on the filters no longer get hot to the touch and the temps on the other side of the insulation wall I made is drastically different.

Eventually I’ll get something to measure the air temps behind the shielding but I’d guess 80-100deg difference as the air surrounding the filter on the other side of the barrier is barely even warm.

 

[cncBilly]

Much as I'd love to have my azz kissed, I don't think I'll be at the Texas Motorplex any time soon. I just got back from a week's work in Desoto (outside Dallas), and the heat index was 108F/42C while I was there.

That's too hot for this pasty white Canadian ...

And here I thought we were going to Texas

 

[NS_Stinger]

I've installed and uninstalled my BMS intakes a couple times now and can confidently say that I feel a power difference when they're on the car. If anyone has any questions about the BMS intakes feel free to ask or private message me and I'll give you my honest feedback.

 

[STINGER]

I like the design & shielding of the AEM intakes, my only concern is the tiny shorty filters. They look about 1/2 the size as the Spectres and almost a 1/3 the size of the Injen filters. That likely means means less airflow at higher RPMs & boost levels. That could effect HP gains near redline which is where big aftermarket filters gain the most power over stock. I bet the gains are still good, but doubt they would make the same 44whp gains near redline like big open air intakes have been proven to do.
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Without my heat shielding mine get heat soaked pretty quick too and noticed a huge difference after adding the shielding. Without shielding mine run about 20-30 over ambient temps at idle and casual driving. After a few hard runs or sitting for a long period of time they will push to 40-50 over. However mine never go up to 150 even with 95deg ambient temps.

With shielding all those numbers drop another 10-20deg and won’t break 135 even after several hard runs. The biggest difference is how fast they cool down and will drop 20-30deg with a quick 40mph cruise down the street.

I know the heat shielding I use works extremely well because the metal on the filters no longer get hot to the touch and the temps on the other side of the insulation wall I made is drastically different.
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Eventually I’ll get something to measure the air temps behind the shielding but I’d guess 80-100deg difference as the air surrounding the filter on the other side of the barrier is barely even warm.

FYI, the AEM filter is short but very big in diameter. I did a surface area comparison and it is slightly more than the BMS filter, however I still feel a bigger filter would be better, I custom made a K&N filter with much more surface area which should be arriving in a week that hopefully will fit on the AEM kit, will post picture when they arrive.

My main grip with the AEM intake is that the pipe diameter at the turbo is almost exactly the same size as the turbo inlet size which is not ideal in my opinion. If it was 1/4" to 1/2" larger and used a transition coupler would have been better, also as soon as you upgrade the turbo even it if is just an impeller upgrade the intake pipe will become a restriction.

 

[Gtecko]

I've installed and uninstalled my BMS intakes a couple times now and can confidently say that I feel a power difference when they're on the car. If anyone has any questions about the BMS intakes feel free to ask or private message me and I'll give you my honest feedback.

did you end up doing the DIY or kept it stock ?

 

[NS_Stinger]

did you end up doing the DIY or kept it stock ?

I ended up keeping the BMS intakes and reinstalling them.

 

[xot1]

Is there any K&N filter compatible with the Injen CAI ? I am looking for a possibly larger filter with an open top.