Kia Stinger Navigation Map Update

[AV8R]

A USB thumb drive itself is not even capable of getting hot, unless there is something seriously wrong with it or the programming.

As stated, a hot USB drive was caused by radiant heat from elsewhere.

I was using the mini usb FIT version. Its smaller and compact. After going through a process and investigating on line i found out why it heats up, its the speed of data processing. Like when your phone heats up when you use the internet alot. There is nothing wrong with car.

 

[AV8R]

Marc,
Tried the album on usb no issues. All songs in album order in folder. Looks like its a US problem as you guys have UVO and we dont so it could be a software issue specific to USA.

 

[Marc Collins]

I was using the mini usb FIT version. Its smaller and compact. After going through a process and investigating on line i found out why it heats up, its the speed of data processing. Like when your phone heats up when you use the internet alot. There is nothing wrong with car.

I am using a 128 GB similar (tiny) USB 3.0 stick. It doesn't heat-up, nor do UBS 3.0 sticks in general heat-up as the transfer data at high speeds all day long every day as designed.

Anything in the Stinger console heats up if the rear heater is engaged, including to the point that phones stop wireless charging because they overheat. So the car causes many devices to overheat. None of those devices overheat on their own without an external heat source. It's a well-known flaw in the design of the Stinger.

 

[AV8R]

I think you are confused. First, what is fitbit? The fitness devices? We are talking about standard USB memory sticks.

The files on a USB drive, whether they be crap-quality MP3s or lossless FLACs, don't have channels. They are a digital representation of an analogue recording that must be processed by a DAC (digital-to-analogue converter) that is part of the infotainment system, or in olden-day terms, the car stereo. If a USB stick were to overheat to the point that it could not transfer information (highly unlikely), the entire music "recording" would be interrupted, not just one channel. Digital is either there or not there--it doesn't distinguish audio channels if interrupted.

Its a small version of USB, mine was 3.0 and its heated up with the data processing speed like a cell phone does when ur on the internet. Its a USB FIT not fitbit, blame spellcheck on ipad for that.
Anyway, mine heated up i lost the left channel. When i removed it and would went back to radio there were no issues. So i did the research bought same one but USB2.0 and no issues now.

 

[Marc Collins]

Marc,
Tried the album on usb no issues. All songs in album order in folder. Looks like its a US problem as you guys have UVO and we dont so it could be a software issue specific to USA.

You were going into an album via "Album" and not "Files"? Just checking because if it is market-specific, all the better to get KIA to fix it!!

 

[AV8R]

The heat affected the usb dock which was reading the usb and caused the drop of a channel. Had nothing to do with a usb having channels or not.

 

[AV8R]

You were going into an album via "Album" and not "Files"? Just checking because if it is market-specific, all the better to get KIA to fix it!!

Ok
If i go into albums it lists all the songs alphabetically so that is not right however the fixaround is just use files. Or you can search artist and the folder comes up. I normally use files to look for the album i have stored in the usb then go from there, no biggy, just different to way some like it. Maybe kia should just get rid of albums function.

 

[AV8R]

By alphabetically i mean all songs not just the specific album

 

[Marc Collins]

Ok
If i go into albums it lists all the songs alphabetically so that is not right however the fixaround is just use files. Or you can search artist and the folder comes up. I normally use files to look for the album i have stored in the usb then go from there, no biggy, just different to way some like it. Maybe kia should just get rid of albums function.

HELLO!!!!!!!! The whole point of the conversation in this thread is that KIA is getting rid of the Files option in v.13 and keeping the Album option that doesn't work (and never has)!

And, thanks for confirming Album doesn't work properly on your car/software, either.

 

[AV8R]

HELLO!!!!!!!! The whole point of the conversation in this thread is that KIA is getting rid of the Files option in v.13 and keeping the Album option that doesn't work (and never has)!

And, thanks for confirming Album doesn't work properly on your car/software, either.

Ok now i get it. If they remove the files tab we are all screwed. They should remove the albums tab. So there is your mission Marc go get em!
By the way we are on version 10 here

 

[Marc Collins]

Ok now i get it. If they remove the files tab we are all screwed. They should remove the albums tab. So there is your mission Marc go get em!
By the way we are on version 10 here

Initial North American cars had v.11, so same system, you just have the oldest iteration. v.12.5 still has "Files," adds Bluetooth texting support and has newer Apple/Android version support. v.13 is the concern.

 

[Jim Dunn]

Yesterday, I connected with Kia Client Specialist, Octavia, about the nav system in my '18 Stinger. She had a refreshing, positive attitude and was great to work with. My car has vr. 10.x and I asked for the latest available as a complimentary update. Octavia researched and found that vr. 13 was currently being tested and would be available soon. She took my addy and told me she'd send the update as soon as it was available. Octavia then pointed me to mapnsoft.com so I could track the availability and told me that if I found it ship ready and I hadn't heard from Kia, I should give Kia a call. Sweet!

 

[Wilzer]

No it was mentioned beforehand and happened to me. Nothing to do with wireless charging. The usb3.0 fit process data quicker and it heats up causing channel issues. I lost the left channel completely. Fault finding i discovered it was usb3.0 as usb 2.0 has no issues.

Not sure why they heat up, but I use USB Stick drives as shared drive plugged into my router and never noticed problem with USB 2.0 but with USB 3 router started having problems with connectivity and one day, pulled USB drive to re-insert and it was very hot to touch, Recovered data and transferred to new USB drive, same problem and hot to touch. AhHah! So got a USB 3.0 extension cord and plugged USB there, it is still very hot to touch, the USB drive, not cord and not router end but the USB flash drive itself. Haven't had trouble with the USB flash drive after putting it on extension cord, better air flow than plugged into router, but it is still hot to touch. Haven't tried USB drive in stinger to see if it is hot, but will soon. Hope I don't have to put it on an extension cord too. Maybe keeping the cover closed over Stinger USB area isn't a good idea but I like the clean look

 

[Wilzer]

A USB thumb drive itself is not even capable of getting hot, unless there is something seriously wrong with it or the programming.

As stated, a hot USB drive was caused by radiant heat from elsewhere.

See above post

 

[eflyguy]

I did just read that. Does not match my experience.

I have a very active computer (network security appliance) running off a 128GB USB 3.0 flash drive. I have another drive that I use regularly for transferring several GB data. My Sorento has one of the micro ones permanently in USB slot. None of them are above room temperature.

The way flash memory is accessed and modified does not require significant amounts of power, and audio files are tiny, requiring trivial amounts of data transfer compared to USB 3.0 transfer speed capability. Just because it's USB 3.0, it doesn't mean it's running constantly at those speeds. The activity lights on the ones I have show it's only short bursts every few seconds.

I have not tried in my Stinger, because I don't listen to music, and always have my phone plugged in for Waze (whether I need nav or not), but there must be a pretty significant problem if the car is causing a USB drive to be accessed continually, way beyond the required data transfer rate for audio files.

It could just be those specific devices get hot when plugged in. It certainly shouldn't be data transfer rates. Audio is commonly 128kBps. USB 3.0 spec is 640MBps. That's 5000 times faster. In other words, audio is using 0.02% of USB 3.0 data transfer rate.

 

[AV8R]

The manual recommended not using anything higher than 128 kbps. That’s why it heats up I’m sure. Anyway I’m using 320kbps on a USB 2.0 and no issues with heat.

 

[stinger541]

Initial North American cars had v.11, so same system, you just have the oldest iteration. v.12.5 still has "Files," adds Bluetooth texting support and has newer Apple/Android version support. v.13 is the concern.

Hi all, so just to clarify. I have 12.5. That 'update' did not do anything for me but make my listening experience much worse. I wish I had never done it. I still have my older version but it would not let me revert back. So to clear this up...FILES and the other options are still there. What is NOT there any more is FOLDER. Why this is a problem I have already laid out and some others have mentioned...when you have shuffle on it shuffles across EVERYTHING. No longer will it stay in a folder. So you may have a genre for rock, another for an classical, another for hip hop, another for country, and so on. On shuffle, you would bounce all over. For me, that is horrible as the only other option is to go by files and then you cannot shuffle, you must play in order. I would like to have it be the way it was with 'Folder' so I could shuffle just within that folder. You may not want to listen to every song you have by one artist all in a row...you may want some variety. Without FOLDER, you lose that.

Also, was hoping it would fix the whole inability to use a USB hub. Nope. Since KIA did not partition correctly using the USB 3.0 standard, you are left with only ONE USB that can actually read anything, not just charge. Horrible.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I have 12.5 too. You can shuffle from "Files": across your entire collection. I discovered this the first/only time I tried to shuffle. I thought that the shuffle would stay inside the folder (happened to be Big Bands); but the very next track to play was a Christmas carol.

I've never used "Folder", and from what you said, I probably don't even have it? I never knew, because I didn't even look at the other access options until long after I updated to 12.5.

 

[stinger541]

I have 12.5 too. You can shuffle from "Files": across your entire collection. I discovered this the first/only time I tried to shuffle. I thought that the shuffle would stay inside the folder (happened to be Big Bands); but the very next track to play was a Christmas carol.

I've never used "Folder", and from what you said, I probably don't even have it? I never knew, because I didn't even look at the other access options until long after I updated to 12.5.

If you have 12.5 now, you do not have folder anymore. You would have had it before, but you had to scroll down one level in the list menu to the left to see it. Yes, that is exactly what happened to me too! I was listening to music in a folder for rock and then next thing I knew, it was Christmas carols! I have since removed that Christmas folder from my USB. I just do not get WHY Kia would remove something that was already there and working well? In every other car I have been in, 'folder' has always been an option. It WAS an option in this car, but they took it out. Makes no sense. Just like putting only ONE USB port in the car, so you cannot have your phone and your music in at the same time.

 

[MerlintheMad]

If you have 12.5 now, you do not have folder anymore. You would have had it before, but you had to scroll down one level in the list menu to the left to see it. Yes, that is exactly what happened to me too! I was listening to music in a folder for rock and then next thing I knew, it was Christmas carols! I have since removed that Christmas folder from my USB. I just do not get WHY Kia would remove something that was already there and working well? In every other car I have been in, 'folder' has always been an option. It WAS an option in this car, but they took it out. Makes no sense. Just like putting only ONE USB port in the car, so you cannot have your phone and your music in at the same time.

This is a case for, "If you never had it, you don't miss it."

My previous vehicles were all low tech. Until the Stinger, I never had a NAV (not counting the rudimentary, useless thing in my wife's '06 Fusion); much less any USB functionality. So the Stinger is my introduction to all of that. Similarly, my first cellphone was added to my life less than half a h
year before the Stinger; so I don't need/want wireless charging, or need/want more than one USB media port. I'm easy to please; which makes me not the target audience with these complaints.

Now, if the Stinger's media system ever ditches "Files", and turns USB playback into alphabetical order only within albums, then I'll be pissed to the max!