Burger Tuning JB4 for Kia Stinger!
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TwinSnails
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Call it the detective in me, but this is going to get good.... calling it in advance.
DaBears4Lyfe
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Lol what? Yes I got a JB4 and I'm going to purposely blow up my car with it on and blame terry.
I know someone who switched to the lap pro and I'm going to help him sell this jb4.
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TwinSnails
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Why the Lap Pro over an ECU tune.... that doesn’t make much sense to me, lol.
DaBears4Lyfe
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Idk makes no sense. He did a full part out and a whole new set up. My gain. I'll sell what I can and fund more parts for myself. Even though I've ran out of things to buy.
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Install it with the fuel wires and have some fun, and later use it for boost by gear and logging for your flash tune.
Data.
2 full runs.1 just 0-60. They aren't valid for anything but they should be more than close enough to troubleshoot. They were taken in Mexico around the same spot Tonka gets his data, I just either stopped too far forward or back. :
Dragy 1/4 (2 of these)
Dragy 0-60 (3 of these)
JB4 .csv (3 of these)
2 full runs.1 just 0-60. They aren't valid for anything but they should be more than close enough to troubleshoot. They were taken in Mexico around the same spot Tonka gets his data, I just either stopped too far forward or back. :
Dragy 1/4 (2 of these)
Dragy 0-60 (3 of these)
JB4 .csv (3 of these)
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The data itself looks "fine" for 92 octane, just seems like based on your dragy times is making around 20whp less than it should be on map2. First thing I'd try is upping the octane with a can of MMT octane booster (or a few gallons of E85) to see what effect that has on trap speed so you know if it's an octane thing you're working against or something else. The 11.98 map2 run is hitting much higher timing values.
What mods on the vehicle exactly? Perhaps one of them is having the opposite effect. Might be worth throwing the car on the scale to see what the actual race weight is too.
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StungBlueGT2
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My friends Stinger is doing the same exact thing. Same “ECU_psi” fluctuations of 1-2psi at full or half throttle. Feels like a boost leak, or EWG Control not regulating boost properly. He thinks it’s stock BOVs failing from extra boost but your aftermarket BOVs wouldn’t have that problem so it must be something else. Just can’t tell if it’s JB4 related or mechanical because it basically goes away under stock boost conditions. Hope there’s an easy solution and let me know if you get any suggestions to resolve it.
SSR Downpipe. Agency Power Intakes.
Plan today is. Add octane booster and test 2-3 runs. Go back to stock intake and test 2-3 runs. I can't see a way that ONE octane is costing me .5 in a quarter mile, but I should have more info at the end of today.
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My friends Stinger is doing the same exact thing. Same “ECU_psi” fluctuations of 1-2psi at full or half throttle. Feels like a boost leak, or EWG Control not regulating boost properly. He thinks it’s stock BOVs failing from extra boost but your aftermarket BOVs wouldn’t have that problem so it must be something else. Just can’t tell if it’s JB4 related or mechanical because it basically goes away under stock boost conditions. Hope there’s an easy solution and let me know if you get any suggestions to resolve it.
That sounds like EWG oscillation from the gain component of the PID output being too high. Harmless but annoying. The fix is a lower boost target in the area where it's oscillating, or direct EWG control, something we're looking in to. If it comes up at part throttle then the FUD.7 bit setting will help as that lowers the part throttle boost target.
Probably a variety of issues and differences, you'll want to rule them out one by one. Humidity and other weather factors also will play a role. As does weight, how much gas is in the car, spare tire, etc. Rather than worrying about what everyone else is running across the country it's better to focus on your data and what you can do to improve your performance, IMHO.
I think I found the perfect mix and gas today. I run the Mobil 1 91 octane that’s 10% ethanol(gauge shows 9%). Then I add half of my 25L jug of E85. My math showed car should be around a 30% E85 mix(gauge shows 31% E85). Did some 0-60 runs and logs in 3-4th and everything looks good and feels great. These pictures are from map 3. 0-60 shows 4.1 seconds and feels awesome in map 3. I got that time with a full tank of gas and winter roads mostly dry but still cold.DaBears4Lyfe
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@Terry@BMS did you solve over boosting with catless cars? I see KLR is running catless not sure if he is having any issues you know of or did anything special for him like a custom map?
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The v6 firmware had changes for catless, not had any global problems since. Sometimes cars in really cold weather with downpipes need the IAT wire added for various reasons.
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DaBears4Lyfe
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I dont see IAT wires for sale. I'm in chicago and have access to a set of downpipes for a reasonable price. Was going to try this out. Weather hasnt been normal chicago weather it's been mild and low 30s. Do you think I should grab the wires?
It's not a for sale thing at least not yet. we just send them to customers if we see the need. Once you start doing logs I'll be able to tell if you need it or not and can send it if you do. Basically it's 1/2 of a fuel wire kit and installs fully on the JB4 harness so we can change the IAT signal directly.
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Did alot more testing today. I don't feel like parsing all the logs and posting them unless someone wants something.
Things that might be worth sharing:
Agency intakes take .2 off of my 0-60 over the stock intakes. Verified with 3-4 runs with each on the exact same location, setup, and fuel. Stock IAT is lower by quite a bit(sometimes like 20 degrees), but hot air is better than not enough air I guess.
Costco gas is very questionable. My car was running way more timing with less pull on shell, and after going back to shell my times seem to be improving quite a bit.
Map 1 same setup, same location, same fuel ran about .5 seconds slower with stock intakes.
Map 2 0-60 : 4.29 - Agency Power Intakes, SSR Downpipe.
Map 2 0-60 : 4.50 - Stock Intakes, SSR Downpipe
Map 1 0-60: 5.0 - Stock Intakes, SSR Downpipe
Oh, I also hit a 1.96 60'! The slope was close to legal.(-1.44)
I have 2 questions.
What does average advance mean? This value varies by ALOT in my logs and I'm not sure what to deduce from it.
Let's say you run a lower octane tank of gas and shit all over your car. Does it take a while for the ecu to adapt back to being more aggressive, or is it quick? I want to know if my car has PTSD from costco.
Things that might be worth sharing:
Agency intakes take .2 off of my 0-60 over the stock intakes. Verified with 3-4 runs with each on the exact same location, setup, and fuel. Stock IAT is lower by quite a bit(sometimes like 20 degrees), but hot air is better than not enough air I guess.
Costco gas is very questionable. My car was running way more timing with less pull on shell, and after going back to shell my times seem to be improving quite a bit.
Map 1 same setup, same location, same fuel ran about .5 seconds slower with stock intakes.
Map 2 0-60 : 4.29 - Agency Power Intakes, SSR Downpipe.
Map 2 0-60 : 4.50 - Stock Intakes, SSR Downpipe
Map 1 0-60: 5.0 - Stock Intakes, SSR Downpipe
Oh, I also hit a 1.96 60'! The slope was close to legal.(-1.44)
I have 2 questions.
What does average advance mean? This value varies by ALOT in my logs and I'm not sure what to deduce from it.
Let's say you run a lower octane tank of gas and shit all over your car. Does it take a while for the ecu to adapt back to being more aggressive, or is it quick? I want to know if my car has PTSD from costco.
That’s a nice drop with intakes. Would love to see a stock intake vs k&n panel filters vs intake.
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