What's good catch can?

What is Kia's official word on what appears to be a design fault with their engine?

How is Kia going to provide 7 years of warranty on an engine if it is going to cake up with carbon on the inlet values?

I have my first service next week and I will question the service centre about this and what is the plan to keep the carbon to a minimum.

I also wonder about the pictures in the marketing material that these products use. Did they use particularly bad examples of carbon build up to sell their products?
 
I'm actually running a cheap amazon catch can that I paid $30 for. Mounted it using an L bracket from home depot bolted down to one of the factory air box holes (I have AEM intakes). Maybe it's not as good as Mishimoto or BMS, but it definitely catches a good amount of oil. Maybe it works just as well as the cans that cost 10x as much.

I'll post a pic after work. Probably been about 1500-2000 miles since I emptied it, so I'll do that and get a pic too. What I should do is pull the hose from the intake manifold and swab the inside of it to see how much, if any, oil is passing through the can and still entering the intake. Not sure if I'll have that much ambition after work though :laugh:
 
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What is Kia's official word on what appears to be a design fault with their engine?

How is Kia going to provide 7 years of warranty on an engine if it is going to cake up with carbon on the inlet values?

I have my first service next week and I will question the service centre about this and what is the plan to keep the carbon to a minimum.

I also wonder about the pictures in the marketing material that these products use. Did they use particularly bad examples of carbon build up to sell their products?

This is not a new problem. It exists on basically every direct injection engine and has been happening for 10+ years. It doesn't really factor into warranty claims because it doesn't harm the engine beyond reducing horsepower and efficiency. It's more pronounced and affects the engine more in naturally aspirated engines as opposed to forced induction engines. It has to get very, very, very bad for it to cause a misfire or any problem that can be diagnosed with a computer.

On older naturally aspirated Audi you could see a sizeable loss in horsepower (10%+ in some cases!) from carbon buildup. See an example here of how bad it can get.


I don't know how KIA will handle carbon build up in a performance car like the Kia Stinger, but sometimes you could get Audi to do a walnut blasting under warranty to clean the valves, particularly if it got so bad that it caused misfires or a check engine light.

I don't expect a forced induction engine like a 3.3TT to have much trouble, if any, with carbon build up. Just because there is carbon on your valves doesn't mean it is having an appreciable effect on your engines performance. I'm not saying it will have no effect, but it's usually not as bad as people imagine when they first see pictures of their valves that have some discoloration and buildup. If it's as bad as the link I posted, then yea, you need to clean it.

The good news is that if you go to a shop that does walnut blasting they can clean your intakes for a few hundred bucks. It's not that hard. They remove the intake, hook up a machine to the intake runner and blast the carbon off the valves with walnut particles. It's definitely worth the money to pay a shop to do this as opposed to trying to clean it yourself.

Also, additives and all the quick fixes people like to talk about usually aren't that effective on caked on buildup. There does seem to be some truth, however, to getting your engine very hot every once in a while (high load + high rpms).
 
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It really stands out against the seemingly intentionally camouflaged rest of teh moter... but, you know brighter ain’t always better...I hope it keeps the inside clean
 
On what side of the moon do you reside?
 
here's the amazon catch can I'm running. Seems to do its job pretty well.

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Ordered a Mishimoto catch can, was looking through the install guide, dumb question here. What did you guys use to lube the O-rings? Never done anything like this so really appreciate the help. I've tried looking everywhere and couldn't find anything. Thanks!
 
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Ordered a Mishimoto catch can, was looking through the install guide, dumb question here. What did you guys use to lube the O-rings? Never done anything like this so really appreciate the help. I've tried looking everywhere and couldn't find anything. Thanks!
I used some TriFlow Teflon liquid, a couple drops. I’ll check the fittings in a couple weeks to ensure they’re still tight.
 
Ordered a Mishimoto catch can, was looking through the install guide, dumb question here. What did you guys use to lube the O-rings? Never done anything like this so really appreciate the help. I've tried looking everywhere and couldn't find anything. Thanks!
The only hose you’re gonna have a problem with is the one that gets the check valve It was a pain in the ass to get it 3/4 in ...No LuBe was required...The other hoses are perfect Very fast install
 
I used some TriFlow Teflon liquid, a couple drops. I’ll check the fittings in a couple weeks to ensure they’re still tight.

Just clarifying, you used this on the large O-ring for the collection part of the catch can as well as the 2 nozzles correct?
 
Just clarifying, you used this on the large O-ring for the collection part of the catch can as well as the 2 nozzles correct?
Just at the base of the threads on the in, and out fittings (or nozzles). A few drops. Maintains a seal and ability to easily undo. Material will be constantly going through those. The can will take a while to accumulate up to the Waist (waste) of the can. All the better reason to lube it...but I didn’t...didn’t even think to...thnx
 
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