Update 12.5 Adds Bluetooth Messaging and...

[Traved29]

I am getting my radio replaced this Friday and hopefully this update is included.

New Stinger owner here. May I ask why so many people are having their radios replaced?

 

[SteveCo]

New Stinger owner here. May I ask why so many people are having their radios replaced?

This fader setting permanence issue with the HK audio system - doesn't appear to affect or concern all owners.

Audio System Fade Setting Not Saving

 

[Manchuz]

Here is what my system info page looks like. Not sure how to tell if it’s version 12.5
View attachment 12432

I can receive messages and have the system read me text messages. I don’t believe I can respond. This is only connected through Bluetooth on iOS.

Nah, you’re on v11, the default version that comes stock with the vehicle.

If you updated to the latest firmware, your map ver should look like mine. Damn you all, I wanted to skip this one until I started reading all the good feedback

 

[DaJackson]

Ok so to clarify, Map 12.5 doesn’t add Bluetooth messaging, it’s the system update that is also bundled with 12.5 that adds it.

 

[SteveCo]

Ok so to clarify, Map 12.5 doesn’t add Bluetooth messaging, it’s the system update that is also bundled with 12.5 that adds it.

Yes. That's why I and many others are hoping that Kia is going to split these out, and soon. I can understand paying for the third party maps if and when somebody wants to update those, but they can at least provide downloadable software updates to their car's multimedia/head units so we can obtain bug fixes and feature updates like this.

I'm sure they just swapped over your existing SD card with the very large navigation map files when they updated your head unit, which explains the discrepancy.

 

[Madman]

Glad to see they fixed the web link so it correctly points to the KIA update instead of going to Hyundai. It looks like they've made some significant improvements this time around - makes me wish I had waited.

Didn't see anything in their PDF about adding SMS messaging, but if that is now functioning outside of Carplay/AA I'm going to make some new inquiries about when we'll be able to get the system updates without purchasing a new map ...

Anyone know if the messaging works on Android?

 

[rdromance]

I got 12.5 and after the install, I got a screen message regarding turning on messaging. Have no idea what I was supposed to do. I have Android.

 

[Madman]

I got 12.5 and after the install, I got a screen message regarding turning on messaging. Have no idea what I was supposed to do. I have Android.

Hi, not sure that was in response to my question? If so, did messaging work when actually connected to your android phone?

 

[rdromance]

Hi, not sure that was in response to my question? If so, did messaging work when actually connected to your android phone?

I had Bluetooth connected but didn't receive a text to my screen. Like I said, I got a screen message to set up messaging once the update was done, but don't know what to set up.

 

[Madman]

I had Bluetooth connected but didn't receive a text to my screen. Like I said, I got a screen message to set up messaging once the update was done, but don't know what to set up.

Thanks.

 

[tofu]

I got 12.5 and after the install, I got a screen message regarding turning on messaging. Have no idea what I was supposed to do. I have Android.

You should have a notification on your phone that you can tap to allow access for messaging.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Kia sent me a new SD card in June, iirc. It took c. half an hour to install. When I went to navigate to my son's year-old house, the NAV returned the annoying "not found" screen. My son's neighborhood is too new even for the 12.5 version. And I bet that if I tried to turn left into the Sandy library that I'd still crash over that concrete median strip with its planter boxes. So far, I only have intellectual knowledge that I upgraded the maps; I keep seeing plenty of evidence that 12.5 is still behind the curve of RL changes to the maps.

 

[Marc Collins]

So what is important here is:

1) Bluetooth messaging has finally been added to the car--something that should have been present since the outset since every cheap are cheerful car on the road (including other, lower-end KIA's) include it as a basic feature
2) KIA stupidly bundles the map updates and the UVO updates--neither should cost money, but especially not the UVO updates as they are basic functionality and bug fixes

What wold be great to know is:

1) Did KIA also fix the well-documented USB music bug where songs do not respect the file name numbering scheme (the native order on the album) and instead play in alphabetical order? At present, the proper order only works if you access via the "Files" option, but not Artist or Album. Hopefully this is fixed.
2) Does v12.5 fix the well-documented fader bug that is most often triggered by Bluetooth phone usage? KIA would have to be complete incompetents to start replacing physical head units in cars if this software update could fix the problem, but it is almost inconceivable that the fader-related problem would not be able to be fixed with a firmware/software update. And now we have one that specifically adds major new Bluetooth features... Let's confirm.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

So I this just for the GT1 and GT2?

 

[BBB]

Why the perpetual spinning of the bluetooth conversation? I've said it before - it is time to graduate from Bluetooth to Apple Carplay or Andoid Auto. IMO - It's just a better all around experience.

 

[WildBill]

I personally don't want to pull my phone out of my pocket and plug it in to listen to my music each time I get in the car. What is the point of having the advancement of push-button start (where you leave your keys in your pocket to enter and start your car) when you still need to extract a phone, and fiddle with plugging it in to use CarPlay. Unless I'm on a trip I don't see that it warrants it. Just my take, but, I'm really happy to see the text over Bluetooth capability.

 

[BBB]

I personally don't want to pull my phone out of my pocket and plug it in to listen to my music each time I get in the car. What is the point of having the advancement of push-button start (where you leave your keys in your pocket to enter and start your car) when you still need to extract a phone, and fiddle with plugging it in to use CarPlay. Unless I'm on a trip I don't see that it warrants it. Just my take, but, I'm really happy to see the text over Bluetooth capability.

I thought we were talking about bluetooth messaging? Sure, music works okay (quality is sub-par - much like the quality of SiriusXM) using bluetooth, but until bluetooth messaging actually works in the Stinger, why not just use Apple Carplay or Android Auto? Messaging works flawlessly with these "plugged in" options. I would also be interested to know how many Stinger drivers actually drive with their phones in their pocket? I suppose in the end, this is just a 1st world problem.

 

[WildBill]

You are correct, the thread is about bluetooth messaging. My thought process went to music as that would be my primary reason for me to use CarPlay. Messaging would be secondary. I understand that audio quality is reduced, the hassle still isn't worth it to me unless I am in the car for more than a half hour.

Note: I just saw that iOS 12 will allow Google Maps & Waze to offer apps within CarPlay. That will be a big reason to use CarPlay for some.

Also, when I had an android phone I used the "Agent" app which could automatically read my incoming messages to me while I was driving. Long before Android Auto or integrated OEM solutions.

 

[Ace2Rolex]

Why the perpetual spinning of the bluetooth conversation? I've said it before - it is time to graduate from Bluetooth to Apple Carplay or Andoid Auto. IMO - It's just a better all around experience.

Having to connect my phone with a wire to use CarPlay when I have wireless charging is just idiotic. Another note is that those with an iPhone + or Mac size don’t have enough room to plug the phone in and have it sit nicely in the phone compartment.

If CarPlay worked wirelessly it would be a serious win.

 

[Markoware]

I’ve been trying to talk my wife into getting the update for her Optima so I can try it. When we bought the Optima a few months ago Bluetooth messaging was the one thing she missed from her Nissan. I found Bluetooth messaging clunky and limiting in my Nissan relative to CarPlay so I only used CarPlay. Maybe wireless charging plus Bluetooth messaging would win me over. My wife thought it was crazy talk that neither the Stinger nor Optima had it.