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Burger gets credit for the wire cut brake mod. With out that its a 12.0 car.
Without your tune your car is a 12.9 car. A mod is a mod, don't try to discount his time because of it
Burger gets credit for the wire cut brake mod. With out that its a 12.0 car.
Let's see who the first person is to snap an axle. Or, the first person to swap base model brakes on in the rear to run a 15" w/ slicks
I did launch in sport. My tests with comfort and Eco weren’t satisfying. I hooked, but it felt sluggish.Just a totally uninformed question to Kato, and everyone - did you launch in sport mode? I understand that sport is best for throttle response, but in the slow-motion video, it seems that the rears spun before the fronts, which makes sense if it's a 20-80 (F/R) split in sport. However, doesn't that suggest with a bit MORE traction, you could do even better? As in, custom mode with everything sport except "comfort" AWD setting (50-50 or 40-60? split) would be able to put a bit more power down to the front, so you'd have a bit more overall traction and let you launch even a bit harder?
Me previous best time of 12.0 was with a DA of 2000. So, rest assured that I will try races both with and without breakboost. I’m excited for some of the previous top spot Kias to use the BMS method. Very, very good times are coming!Burger gets credit for the wire cut brake mod. With out that its a 12.0 car. Now we just see who wants to up the anti and go for it. But I see 4 AWDs that should move above Kato if they want it bad enough to cut the wire!
When that DA drops Kato is low 11.7s and others may hit high 11.5s
Funny. Now you see why there are only a handful of non jb4 owners left on this forum. That would be like adding NOS and then saying Jb4 rules!Without your tune your car is a 12.9 car. A mod is a mod, don't try to discount his time because of it
That’s the next set of tests. Definitely a good thing to try.I think he's saying use "Custom" with everything set to "Sport" besides "AWD" which might hook up better in Comfort mode as you'd have more front bias on launch.
Not sure how much of a difference it would make but it's worth trying.
Funny. Now you see why there are only a handful of non jb4 owners left on this forum. That would be like adding NOS and then saying Jb4 rules!
Not discounting the time. Its awesome. It's just not a Jb4 victory but is a Burger victory. Congrats Kato and Terry.
If others want to try the brake mod before cutting the wire you can slide your dragy plate over the break switch (down by the brake arm) and should have the same effect. I was able to hit 2800 RPM and 8 PSI. Only tried it 2 or 3 times off the track and didn't feel quite right so I stopped the testing.
John Bushbaum said:LOL, you are kidding me... right? It took cutting up the wire harness and lanching the car at 3000 RPM at 10 lbs of boost.
Now... imagine what will happen when we have methanol injection and cut the same wire.
Terry@BMS said:John Bushbaum A bit ironic that with all of your "100s of flash tables" and "months of flash work" it actually only took around an hour of R&D (from a real engineer) and a single wire cut to completely change the Stinger 1/4 mile game. In a format that everyone can implement at home FOR FREE!
How is that not a JB4 victory? Imagine if Tork found a way to increase launch control RPM to 3000RPM and build boost on launch... by your logic that wouldn't be Tork's victory. You've said in the past your launch control is higher than everyone else's (2450RPM vs 2200RPM standard) which enables you to launch harder. Harder launches = lower ETs. This is literally the only reason you've held on to the 1/4 mile record.Funny. Now you see why there are only a handful of non jb4 owners left on this forum. That would be like adding NOS and then saying Jb4 rules!
Not discounting the time. Its awesome. It's just not a Jb4 victory but is a Burger victory. Congrats Kato and Terry.
Jesus the bickering here..... really guys. He said it's a Burger victory, that's the JB4 tuner, he's just saying it isn't the JB4 itself that's getting the time down but the actual company.How is that not a JB4 victory? Imagine if Tork found a way to increase launch control RPM to 3000RPM and build boost on launch... by your logic that wouldn't be Tork's victory. You've said in the past your launch control is higher than everyone else's (2450RPM vs 2200RPM standard) which enables you to launch harder. Harder launches = lower ETs. This is literally the only reason you've held on to the 1/4 mile record.
? Thats like saying you have a 12.9 car without your tork tune. Dont be salty about it.Burger gets credit for the wire cut brake mod. With out that its a 12.0 car. Now we just see who wants to up the anti and go for it. But I see 4 AWDs that should move above Kato if they want it bad enough to cut the wire!
When that DA drops Kato is low 11.7s and others may hit high 11.5s
I agree that is the only reason tork tune was faster, now the playing field is level. I no longer see an advantage with the tork tune. If tonka does this mod we all will be leaving at 3k rpms. The advantage is gone.How is that not a JB4 victory? Imagine if Tork found a way to increase launch control RPM to 3000RPM and build boost on launch... by your logic that wouldn't be Tork's victory. You've said in the past your launch control is higher than everyone else's (2450RPM vs 2200RPM standard) which enables you to launch harder. Harder launches = lower ETs. This is literally the only reason you've held on to the 1/4 mile record.
I agree that is the only reason tork tune was faster, now the playing field is level. I no longer see an advantage with the tork tune. If tonka does this mod we all will be leaving at 3k rpms. The advantage is gone.
True. On the other hand, if Tork is able to do this in the ECU, rather than requiring cutting a switch, and increasing line pressure, etc, then he may find an advantage again. But it seems that the Stinger is not his priority, and updates are few and far between..
Just curious - how good is a 1.6 0-60ft, relatively speaking? I know next to nothing about 1/4 mile stuff.. A quick google showed some Mustangs TRYING to get to 1.6. Obviously with RWD, launch will be more difficult.
Are we basically "optimized" now, for our drivetrain and power levels? 1.6 0-60, ~11.5-11.6 ET? And will the next round of gains require bigger turbos? I'm totally not complaining, just trying to learn.
Kinvara already beat my 60 foot using a brake mod when he ran 11.95.I agree that is the only reason tork tune was faster, now the playing field is level. I no longer see an advantage with the tork tune. If tonka does this mod we all will be leaving at 3k rpms. The advantage is gone.
You run today?Kinvara already beat my 60 foot using a brake mod when he ran 11.95.
Everytime i think the platform has hit the ceiling companies like Burger show that the platform hasnt yet lol. I would have said the cap was going to be about 12 seconds for most cars in most conditions but a 11.8 in 2800 DA is just showing you guys have just scratched the surface