Drag/Acceleration The Official 1/4 mile track thread.

[ScottyCole]

Ran consistent all day. One run boost fail from 4th to 5th gear. Ran 12.64. Still happy with the day out with GIT STUG! Best run 12.23.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Loving the times and how the list keeps getting better!

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I'll get the list updated. Congrats to @Get Stung and @ScottyCole for their impressive times this weekend! Really shocks me how far we already are in this platform in so little time. Cant wait for these ECU tunes to drop and we see more 11 second stingers!

Here are the top times as of April 14th, 2019.

1/4 Drag strip Top 15 times (Official Track List)

1/4 mile time, speed, 1/8 mile time, speed, 60

1. 11.87 @ 116.71, @Tonkabob, 7.67 @ 93.19, 1.83
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E15 94 octane

2. 11.94 @ 118.11, @STINGER, 7.77 @ 92.99, 1.89
RWD, JB4 map 3, WMI, VT Snorkel, K&N Drop ins, High flow CAT, JunBL mid EVC cat back

3. 11.97 @117.69, @Angel, 7.79@93.39, 1.88
AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC.

4. 11.98 @118.96, @TorkMe, 7.84 @94.03, 1.95
GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork intake, muffler delete, no cats, fmic. 92 Octane

5. 12.05 @ 116.58, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.87 @93.02, 1.93
AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane

6. 12.07 @ 116.73, @Crewdawg130, 7.85 @92.65, 1.90
GT2 RWD, JB4 map3, intake, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials. 93 octane

7. 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

8. 12.13 @116.78, Jesse P turbokits.com, 7.89@ 91.51, 1.87
AWD, Lap3 pro Map 3, METH Intake, FMIC, no cats, 93 octane.

9. 12.13 @116.16, @DaBears4Lyfe, 7.89 @ 91.61, 1.87
RWD, JB4 MAP 8, CX Racing Intakes, BMS WMI, Lap 3 Primary Downpipesw/ HFC, X Force Exhaust w/ EVC Closed, GFB BOV, VT Snorkel, Sixth OCC

10. 12.15 @119.56, @Get Stung, 7.94 @92.06, 1.927
AWD, JB4 Map8, WMI, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane

11. 12.17 @ 116 Michael Locke, 7.95 @ 91.93, 1.95
AWD, Lap3 pro Map2, Injen Intake, lap3 down, SSR Mid, 91 + E30

12. 12.23 @ 116.26, @ScottyCole, 7.98 @91.03, 1.95
AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85

@Get Stung can you confirm everything on your slip? It was hard for me to read everything zooming in.

Also since dragy season is over I am not going to pull all of that over.

 

[ScottyCole]

These are my Mods when I went to the track!

AWD, Lap3 Pro, Lap3 HFC, K&N Intakes, Borla catback, Ultimate Performance Intercooler, Secondary CAT bypass and 93 octane + Boostane.

All 6 slips show Lap3 car 765 left side and JB4 car 764 right side of slip. Both cars have different mods.

My car has a sunroof which to be exact is 185lbs heavier than a car without a sunroof.
So I think I would of been faster without the extra weight.

Lap3 is where its at! My MPH is slower but times are better due to the consistency and smooth power curve.

Some on here like to think they know better than the other person. Know all the facts before putting out fake news.

 

[Tonkabob]

Didn't realize the GT2s are that much heavier. That's awesome you guys got to run side by side each run. Looks like 3 wins for each.
Any Stingers want to come play at IFO May 5th in Kent Wa? @Blitz? anyone?

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

These are my Mods when I went to the track!

AWD, Lap3 Pro, Lap3 HFC, K&N Intakes, Borla catback, Ultimate Performance Intercooler, Secondary CAT bypass and 93 octane + Boostane.

All 6 slips show Lap3 car 765 left side and JB4 car 764 right side of slip. Both cars have different mods.

My car has a sunroof which to be exact is 185lbs heavier than a car without a sunroof.
So I think I would of been faster without the extra weight.

Lap3 is where its at! My MPH is slower but times are better due to the consistency and smooth power curve.

Some on here like to think they know better than the other person. Know all the facts before putting out fake news.

I think you are referring to me posting the comparison on FB. Fact is your lap3 cost 1200 and fact is even david chung admits the lap3 isnt as developed as the jb4.

Yup you have 185 lbs more weight but you are also running high flow cats. that 185 weight reductions coupled with the 200 cell cat vs the stock primary may push this to a more even lineup but the cost benefits of one vs the other is crazy. I dont get how anyone even consideres the lap 3 at this point.



At this stage with how much further advanced the jb4 is vs the lap3 pro tuner i just dont think there is a comparison anymore.

 

[Tonkabob]

@Michael Locke posted his before and after Dynos showing the catless primary is worth 3 hp. So the HFC has got to be worth at least 1 HP. And we have no idea what the dump valve does. I think the exhaust side is a wash until we have more data.
I'm not taking sides on piggies as I don't really care that much but performance as measured in the 1/4 I think is still up for debate. If the Lap3 car is really 185 lbs heavier that is a good tenth and a half. Drivers weight about the same?

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

So i dont just post a partial of what was said:

• David Chung The difference would be, LAP3 is still running 93 mapping w/ 5psi over stock, while JB4 is running E30/race fuel mapping +7psi over stock. 93 map vs 93 map would have been a fair comparison, Jesse Dabears. Hence mods to mods comparison isn't really relevant for this race.
  
  Once we have the app updated, we are planning on adding more mapping for those running higher than 93 octane.
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  Jesse Dabears They both ran higher octane one ran 93+ boostane (jb4) the other ran 93+ e85 (lap3). One used the 2nd highest map available to him (he could have ran map 7 which is higher boost) and the other ran the highest map he could run without meth. I think is a valid comparison between the two piggybacks David Chung
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  David Chung Jesse Dabears One can use higher octane for any map they are running. Scott could run 93 octane alone for the mapping he's currently running. Added e85 isn't going to change the fact that Scott is running 93 octane map. If you wanted to make a valid co…See More
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  David Chung Though it does bring to our attention to let others know that we will be releasing more mappings down the road for more power for those who want to run higher than 93 octane without meth.
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  Jesse Dabears They both ran with what they have available to them with their piggyback as they currently stand. Good to hear in the future the lap 3 will have more mapings like the jb4. It might be more even then. As of right now the jb4 clearly has the lead at more than half the cost.
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  David Chung Jesse Dabears As far as the selection for mapping, yes JB4 does have more. 91 vs 91 on the other hand Robb Banagahas run against a JB4 with same GT RWD, same mods, edging out JB4 so slightly. That is a fair comparison as both were running same 91 fuel & 91 mapping.
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  Jesse Dabears Again the comparison is what available to them now. You keep wanting someone to downgrade what map they are using to slow them down so it's fair for the lap3. The comparison again is the piggybacks one with high flow cats (lap3) the other with still th…See More
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  David Chung Jesse Dabears Were you at the track as well? Have you had a chance to run your car?
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  Jesse Dabears Yup I did. But this ain't about me? If you would like it to be or about that day check the leaderboard I'm ahead of every other RWD lap3 prontuner. Also check #2 on the list it's a jb4 running 11.97 awd I ran 12.1s rwd
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  David Chung Well, you brought it up as JB4 vs. LAP3. So figured to chime in as to we are comparing two different octane mappings. The required octane for those two vehicles' mappings are completely different. I figured to ask since you are running JB4 after all. A…See More
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  Jesse Dabears Running what times? 12.1 we are now talking different locations, different tracks different mods lol. What I posted was a direct comparison. Same track similar mods (lap 3 is actually running high flow cats and jb4 has primary cat still intact). I'm sorry you feel it's not fair because the jb4 has more maps.... maybe when the lap3 when its more developed will hold it's own.
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  Jesse Dabears He is also AWD I am RWD so again not sure why you keep throwing different comparisons together now. David Chung
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  David Chung Jesse Dabears I would have no knowledge of your vehicle spec, but good to know. You can't assume that I know your car to be AWD or RWD, but hey that information helps. RWD has less drivetrain loss w/ ~200lb less weight, and will always accel as long as 60ft is similar. You are right on that though. These cars are harder to compare as base GT RWD w/o a sunroof and GT2 AWD have about 300-400lb weight difference.
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  Jesse Dabears Lol why are you grasping for anything now. My car and that car ran at two different locations, 2 different cars. I cant get off the line without spinning because I'm RWD AWDs dont have that issue. I'm sorry you feel it's not fair to compare a jb4 and l…See More
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  David Chung Just saying, since you know the AWD vs RWD comparison isn't apples to apples, but to say 93 tune vs race fuel mix mapping is a fair comparison. I had to mention where you are going with this
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  Jesse Dabears Yup based on our convo here I agree the jb4 shouldnt be compared to a pro tuner at this stage. The pro tuner just isnt as developed yet.
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  David Chung Jesse Dabears I can agree with that statement.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

@Michael Locke posted his before and after Dynos showing the catless primary is worth 3 hp. So the HFC has got to be worth at least 1 HP. And we have no idea what the dump valve does. I think the exhaust side is a wash until we have more data.
I'm not taking sides on piggies as I don't really care that much but performance as measured in the 1/4 I think is still up for debate. If the Lap3 car is really 185 lbs heavier that is a good tenth and a half. Drivers weight about the same?

There is no one weight reduction answer to how much time it would shave. I honestly dont think it would cut off a tenth. I removed my spare and everything else out my trunk = approx 60lbs and my time didnt improve at all.

 

[brancky3]

There is no one weight reduction answer to how much time it would shave. I honestly dont think it would cut off a tenth. I removed my spare and everything else out my trunk = approx 60lbs and my time didnt improve at all.

Your trap speed will increase with less weight but will not necessarily have any impact on your ET

 

[Tonkabob]

Come on guys this is physics. All else being equal if you lighten a car it will have lower ET and higher Trap. There are variables like traction heat soak and run to run variations but the math says this is so.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Come on guys this is physics. All else being equal if you lighten a car it will have lower ET and higher Trap. There are variables like traction heat soak and run to run variations but the math says this is so.

Right but 185 lbs isnt dropping .15 seconds Tonka... come on. If thats the case pull your back seat and passenger seat and you may have an 11.5 second pass with 120+ MPH trap.

 

[brancky3]

Come on guys this is physics. All else being equal if you lighten a car it will have lower ET and higher Trap. There are variables like traction heat soak and run to run variations but the math says this is so.

Lower ET is mainly just a function of your launch. Less weight won't necessarily make you launch better, but it will make your car go faster over a given distance.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

its not only that the weight is in the middle of an awd car. Id understand if you were taking some weight off the front end but the middle in these AWD cars where weight is pretty even to 50/50.

 

[Get Stung]

Looking at the list debears you have me as map 5, I'm running meth map 8. Ran a map 5 and map 7 run as well late in the day. AWD


At the end of the day last 2 runs ran map 5 left slip and map 7 right hot lapped back to back. Not much diff in et from meth runs and trap was still 118.5 on map 5, map 7 was kinda mess but 6 minutes apart might explain that. Those runs were at 65 degrees hottest point in the day.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Looking at the list dabears you have me as map 5, I'm running meth map 8. Ran a map 5 and map 7 run as well late in the day.

Please relist your mods so I can get them updated.

 

[Get Stung]

injen intakes, jb4 map 8 e30 and meth, cut outs, borla exhaust, 18s all season
edit map 8 meth plus e30

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

injen intakes, jb4 map 8 e30, cut outs, borla exhaust, 18s all season

so you are runnin map8 without meth? That doesnt sound too smart.

 

[Get Stung]

so you are runnin map8 without meth? That doesnt sound too smart.

no with meth, wanted to make sure octane wasnt an issue plus it runs cooler

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

no with meth, wanted to make sure octane wasnt an issue plus it runs cooler

lol thats a big mod you forgot to list in your mod list. That changes everything that has been said