Lozic ECU + TCU + AWD Tune

[Keith88lx]

I was excited they responded to my email quick this morning and I wanted to order today. Then I got the same response today about non PayPal and bank wire. I too am hesitant about the bank wire.

 

[Kamauxx]

Updated

I'd prefer to get more data on JB4 without mods or only intakes. That's the real gap in data and I think FBO isn't as popular overall. Lots of lurkers in here just trying to decide how to OEM+ their cars. Difference between them and I is maybe I'm more outspoken, or just willing to accumulate data

I updated the spreadsheet above with sorting by car setup. Still not sorting by car, tire or track/street, as those who go all out on setup tend to be on the track. Chart below, separating into groups by mod (hardware setup, ECU and TCU tune) (also in the link)

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I wish I still had JMP on my work PC or I'd be able to do much better statistical analysis, R^2, std deviation, etc. As-is, I think the takeaway is still that the ECU tune alone is as fast as FBO JB4 on pump gas.

I'm just curious and of course you don't have to answer if you don't want, but what is your profession?

 

[XGC75]

I'm just curious and of course you don't have to answer if you don't want, but what is your profession?

Systems Architect for a consumer durable goods manufacturer

 

[BUZER]

I guess I may have been one of the last few people to use PayPal with him as It was just a couple of days ago.

I ordered ECU and TCU.
ECU 1.6bars, soft bubble to 3500 and pop to 6000rpm. I did ask for Backfire so I probably wont get soft bubbles and pops.
TCU -5%, pressure 3, and torque limit off.
With CA91+E85 and 80-100% Meth....we'll see how this goes.

 

[Intelliburn]

I just got a response to pay for my order. They aren’t using PayPal now? And want a wire transfer. No idea how to do that with my current bank to international..

No PayPal? Forget it. I’m definitely waiting till they get that up and running. Not down with wire transfers.

 

[turboAWD]

Well, I just decided on the ECU only route. Got my form filled and sending it to him, but I won't buy without Paypal+protection. Willing to pay for the protection, too, if necessary.

If you have nothing right now, and decent gas, probably the best bang-for-buck. For those of us who already have jb4, it's $2k for SOME improvement, but it's still questionable (from what I've seen) if plain CA91 will work with anything but a VERY mild tune. I often do E30, but I can't always do that, and we take the ar on road trips, etc. So I like the flexibility of shifting between map0-3 from the windshield wiper control. Especially when doing HPDE, etc.

Still interested in TCU, though - once paypal works again.

 

[Jaybone]

Hope he gets PayPal figured out otherwise I count at least $5k here he won't be getting at a minimum

 

[turboAWD]

Hope he gets PayPal figured out otherwise I count at least $5k here we won't be getting at a minimum

I'm also strongly leaning towards a TCU..

 

[XGC75]

If you have nothing right now, and decent gas, probably the best bang-for-buck. For those of us who already have jb4, it's $2k for SOME improvement, but it's still questionable (from what I've seen) if plain CA91 will work with anything but a VERY mild tune. I often do E30, but I can't always do that, and we take the ar on road trips, etc. So I like the flexibility of shifting between map0-3 from the windshield wiper control. Especially when doing HPDE, etc.

Still interested in TCU, though - once paypal works again.

Yeah, there's a lot to love about JB4. Flexibility, logging, support and especially cost.

On the ECU tune, the capabilities for ECU functionality, specifically, are better - for example bubbles and pops, removing torque limits, tune-by-mode, timing (though it's not used), etc.

If I weren't so focused on 0-60, or if I were starting brownfield, my calculus would have been different. But given that out here in the Midwest I am a stoplight queen and I have nothing done to the car I think I get my money's worth with the ECU only.

 

[turboAWD]

Yeah, there's a lot to love about JB4. Flexibility, logging, support and especially cost.

On the ECU tune, the capabilities for ECU functionality, specifically, are better - for example bubbles and pops, removing torque limits, tune-by-mode, timing (though it's not used), etc.

If I weren't so focused on 0-60, or if I were starting brownfield, my calculus would have been different. But given that out here in the Midwest I am a stoplight queen and I have nothing done to the car I think I get my money's worth with the ECU only.

Agreed. Personally, I want the TCU for SOMEWHAT better stoplight starts (right now, with the delay / factory LC, trucks are getting the jump on me and I have to catch up), but I don't necessarily want to remove all torque limits (for longevity), and I'm not a 1/4 mile kind of guy.

Also not a bubbles/pops kind of guy. My wife heard a BMW with them and asked me: "What's WRONG with that car?", with the implication it was about to break..

 

[XGC75]

Heh, I ordered bubbles only 4500rpm and above in sport mode only. I'm hoping it's tame

 

[Jaybone]

Just seeing if anyone has gotten any type of response? I sent the email yesterday to him about several people were not going to do it unless PayPal was an option and haven't gotten a response. I will post if/when I get one.

 

[CeramicGT001]

Just seeing if anyone has gotten any type of response? I sent the email yesterday to him about several people were not going to do it unless PayPal was an option and haven't gotten a response. I will post if/when I get one.

Nope, that hyper launch lap3 tcu tune looking pretty good right about now

 

[Intelliburn]

Nope, that hyper launch lap3 tcu tune looking pretty good right about now

I’ll have to research that one more. But agreed, no PayPal, no deal. Especially from another country.

 

[Jaybone]

I wonder how that lap3 tcu is.. its a big company so I would think good. I haven't seen much posted anywhere though about it.

 

[Jaybone]

Gents update he just sent me a paypal thing to make my payment. But now that just seems off as to why he couldn't and then all of a sudden it works and no reason given? Not sure now might still wait

 

[Intelliburn]

Gents update he just sent me a paypal thing to make my payment. But now that just seems off as to why he couldn't and then all of a sudden it works and no reason given? Not sure now might still wait

Weird.

 

[Jaybone]

I emailed him asking if there was a reason he couldn't and then can? I'm waiting for a response to that before I do anything

 

[Slip_Angle]

PayPal update:

Lozic told me it was because the payments we make in Paypal are made in USD but he is unable to withdraw in USD. He wants the USD for future US business. Anyways, he said he doesn't want customers to be unhappy, so he is accepting Paypal again and will figure it out a different way.

Bottom line. Lozic is 100% trustworthy, so don't worry about that. I was the first person in North America to take the risk and get his ECU and he's been great to me and everyone else. I sent my ECU back for revisions and he was very responsive to what I wanted!

I'm running 1.3Bar for 91 octane and TCU pressure 2. It's perfect for my needs.

 

[Jaybone]

PayPal update:

Lozic told me it was because the payments we make in Paypal are made in USD but he is unable to withdraw in USD. He wants the USD for future US business. Anyways, he said he doesn't want customers to be unhappy, so he is accepting Paypal again and will figure it out a different way.

Bottom line. Lozic is 100% trustworthy, so don't worry about that. I was the first person in North America to take the risk and get his ECU and he's been great to me and everyone else. I sent my ECU back for revisions and he was very responsive to what I wanted!

I'm running 1.3Bar for 91 octane and TCU pressure 2. It's perfect for my needs.

Trusting you! I sent my payment I believe he is legit but have been taken before so like to be careful. Thanks Slip