LAP3 Tune for Stinger 400 hp to the wheels

[Brian Keenan]

Found this on one of the Facebook groups but when I went back it was missing. I'm glad I saved the images. Check this out.

It looks like we could be seeing well over 400 hp to the wheels and maybe even more than 500 hp worth of torque. This engine has been detuned in a big way. I bet this kind of power is going to be reserved for that more powerful Stinger we've heard little about. I wonder how safe it would be to use launch control with a tune like this.

 

[Chris]

I'm not sure that it is de-tuned just so they can sell a faster model later. It may have everything to do with longevity. 400hp to the wheels is probably close to 475hp to 500hp at the flywheel. I'm not sure your engine is going to last 10 years/100k miles pushing that much power. I would bet you could even get 500hp out of the 2.0 but I certainly wouldn't crank it that high. I would guess another 50hp - 60hp is plausible without risking blowing things up but I'm not sure I would risk much higher than that.

 

[ballistic]

right it's probably set the way it is with longevity in mind. but depending on how the engine was made and what components were used it could take a lot of power. once you pass a certain point you'll need forged rods and pistons. we just need to figure out at what point you need to open the engine in order to add more power. but 500 horse might be fine for the stock motor.

 

[Corey @ K8 Stinger Store]

Hello. My name is Corey with K8 Stinger Store, whose parent company is K5 Optima Store. We are the exclusive US dealer for this LAP3 Uncle Chip and currently have it in stock here: https://www.k5optimastore.com/products/lap3-performance-tune

This is available for the Stinger 2.0T and 3.3TT only.

Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this product, or any other products that we carry.

Thank you!

 

[Bamm1]

Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this product, or any other products that we carry.

I have a question regarding the "LAP3 Uncle Chip" that I was hoping you could shed some light on.

What is "Uncle Chip Dual"?

Is this a piggyback unit AND an ECU tune stacked?

I can't imagine it being two seperate piggyback units.

Here is what I am talking about for your reference:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX2MDOJA42Z/

I believe the OP is also an example of the "Uncle Chip Dual".

 

[ballistic]

I have a question regarding the "LAP3 Uncle Chip" that I was hoping you could shed some light on.

What is "Uncle Chip Dual"?

Is this a piggyback unit AND an ECU tune stacked?

I can't imagine it being two seperate piggyback units.

Here is what I am talking about for your reference:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX2MDOJA42Z/

I believe the OP is also an example of the "Uncle Chip Dual".

i'm curious as well. you out there @Corey @ K8 Stinger Store?

 

[Corey @ K8 Stinger Store]

I have a question regarding the "LAP3 Uncle Chip" that I was hoping you could shed some light on.

What is "Uncle Chip Dual"?

Is this a piggyback unit AND an ECU tune stacked?

I can't imagine it being two seperate piggyback units.

Here is what I am talking about for your reference:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX2MDOJA42Z/

I believe the OP is also an example of the "Uncle Chip Dual".

Thank you for your patience and sorry for the delayed response. My son had surgery this past week and I was out of commission most the time.

The “dual chip” is in fact two LAP3 Uncle Chip modules, one connected to each set of MAP sensors. Since the 3.3TT has dual intakes, it would require a LAP3 Uncle Chip for each intake.

We have the LAP3 Uncle Chip in stock here: https://www.k5optimastore.com/products/lap3-performance-tune?variant=1963740356

 

[Bamm1]

Thank you for your patience and sorry for the delayed response. My son had surgery this past week and I was out of commission most the time.

The “dual chip” is in fact two LAP3 Uncle Chip modules, one connected to each set of MAP sensors. Since the 3.3TT has dual intakes, it would require a LAP3 Uncle Chip for each intake.

We have the LAP3 Uncle Chip in stock here: https://www.k5optimastore.com/products/lap3-performance-tune?variant=1963740356

No worries on the delay. I wish your son a speedy recovery.

Thank you for the reply and that is very interesting.

So if you only use one LAP3 unit you are only modifying airflow partially?

 

[Corey @ K8 Stinger Store]

No worries on the delay. I wish your son a speedy recovery.

Thank you for the reply and that is very interesting.

So if you only use one LAP3 unit you are only modifying airflow partially?

I wouldn’t recommend running only one LAP3 Uncle Chip on the 3.3TT, as that would send completely different signals to the ECU.

 

[Bamm1]

I wouldn’t recommend running only one LAP3 Uncle Chip on the 3.3TT, as that would send completely different signals to the ECU.

But isn't that exactly what they are doing here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYZw6zcg5ZM/

 

[ballistic]

considering how we need two chips I guess this is going to make a tune for the stinger twice as expensive for the same power gain for other cars?

 

[soulevo8]

Same question here. So doing the Lap3 piggy back requires 2 units for the 3.3L TT? Making the cost almost $1,200 instead of $600? That takes away the biggest advantage of a piggy back, the low cost.

 

[Kia Stinger]

Same question here. So doing the Lap3 piggy back requires 2 units for the 3.3L TT? Making the cost almost $1,200 instead of $600? That takes away the biggest advantage of a piggy back, the low cost.

Welcome aboard, @soulevo8! Thank you for signing up. Yes, it does seem like a bit of an unusual dilemma for Stinger owners if this is the case...

 

[soulevo8]

@Corey @ K8 Stinger Store Can you clear this up for us? Exactly what Lap3 piggy back is required for the 3.3L flash tune? Is it 2 separate units? A dual chip unit? The store does not differentiate between the two engines.

 

[Bamm1]

@Corey @ K8 Stinger Store Can you clear this up for us? Exactly what Lap3 piggy back is required for the 3.3L flash tune? Is it 2 separate units? A dual chip unit? The store does not differentiate between the two engines.

It looks like a customer bought a single LAP3 unit for their G80 Sport (with the same 3.3T engine used in the Stinger). See the post here: https://stingerforum.org/threads/stinger-tuning.378/page-4#post-12782. It would appear they were not warned to do otherwise.

I linked to the Instagram page of the parent Korean company that makes the LAP3 unit in post # 10 of this thread. They also seem to run both single and double units on the 3.3T. The double unit only being used to increase power further (at a cost) as opposed to being required to keep the engine safe.

If there is a reliability, driveability, etc. issue with running a single unit I am not sure why they would be posting dyno charts for that practice.

 

[DCBStingerGT]

Video of a LAP3 Chip Install in a V6TT Stinger.

 

[Duce_13]

Video of a LAP3 Chip Install in a V6TT Stinger.

How does it drive after the install??

 

[Corey @ K8 Stinger Store]

Hello everyone. My apologies on the confusion of this. This "special project" Kia Stinger was built by LAP3 and did in fact have dual LAP3 Uncle Chips installed. HOWEVER, the factory 3.3TT Stinger ONLY uses 1 LAP3 Uncle Chip. There was some misinformation being passed around back when this post began. Again, my apologies.

 

[Dark_Knight GT]

Couple of things. First, I confirmed with David at K5 that two chips are not required for the 3.3. Second, the chip greatly enhances the driving characteristics, particularly in sport. In comfort, the drive is nearly identical to stock which I personally prefer. In sport, the power increase is profound and linear. It pulls off the line (hard) and to well over 100mph (hard). It’s easily as quick as my old M3. I’m running on the 91 setting. I ran a jb+ and it was jerky with respect to power delivery. Not so with the LAP3. We are a two Stinger family. My wife wanted one after riding in mine.

 

[Corey @ K8 Stinger Store]

Couple of things. First, I confirmed with David at K5 that two chips are not required for the 3.3. Second, the chip greatly enhances the driving characteristics, particularly in sport. In comfort, the drive is nearly identical to stock which I personally prefer. In sport, the power increase is profound and linear. It pulls off the line (hard) and to well over 100mph (hard). It’s easily as quick as my old M3. I’m running on the 91 setting. I ran a jb+ and it was jerky with respect to power delivery. Not so with the LAP3. We are a two Stinger family. My wife wanted one after riding in mine.

Nice review. It's nice to hear how its working out for you. Thank you for your business.