JB4 v5 firmware posted

[NYdito]

Anyone running Map 3 with 93 octane alone (no e85 mix)?

I Run map 3 with 93 octane daily no problems I only have down pipe for now.

 

[Angel]

I Run map 3 with 93 octane daily no problems I only have down pipe for now.

Amen brother as an American I respect your decision is your car........but i personally would not do that shit for an extra 10 horsepower.....it is not worth the risk for me if i ran map 3 it would be with the proper fuel as the instruction tell you.....you break your car then its on you....but hey man good luck....

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

To answer your question dont do it.....the one person that did F up his car....

I was just talking to him and sent him a link to another turbo failure. I dont think pointing the finger at the jb4 map 3 with 93 octane is accurate. There are a few of us running it with no issues. That is my daily map fyi and beat the shit out of my car lol.

 

[Angel]

I was just talking to him and sent him a link to another turbo failure. I dont think pointing the finger at the jb4 map 3 with 93 octane is accurate. There are a few of us running it with no issues. That is my daily map fyi and beat the shit out of my car lol.

I AM NOT BLAMING THE JB4 MAP 3.....I REPEAT I AM JUST SAYING I WOULD PERSONALLY NOT RUN MAP 3 ON 93 OCTANE I WOULD USE THE PROPER FUEL AS TERRY AND THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY......SURE YOU MIGHT RUN IT WITH NO ISSUES NOW, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WONT HAVE ANY DOWN THE ROAD....TERRY STATES TO USE E 30 MIX FOR A REASON I AM SURE HE DIDNT JUST PULL THAT ANSWER OUT OF HIS ASS LOL....ALL IM SAYING IS PEOPLE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! I HOPE THIS CLARIFIES....

 

[Kamauxx]

I've ran map 2 for 7 months and nearly 10k miles problem free. Starting to feel the itch again, though.

If I remember correctly the recommendation for map 3 is high quality fuel, octane booster, e85 mixture, or race gas. I don't remember reading that 93 WONT work IF the specific 93 is considered "high quality".

I do recall reading about another car that failed die to BOVs though.

Guess I'll wait and see.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I AM NOT BLAMING THE JB4 MAP 3.....I REPEAT I AM JUST SAYING I WOULD PERSONALLY NOT RUN MAP 3 ON 93 OCTANE I WOULD USE THE PROPER FUEL AS TERRY AND THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY......SURE YOU MIGHT RUN IT WITH ISSUES NOW, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WONT HAVE ANY DOWN THE ROAD....TERRY STATES TO USE E 30 MIX FOR A REASON I AM SURE HE DIDNT JUST PULL THAT ANSWER OUT OF HIS ASS LOL....ALL IM SAYING IS PEOPLE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! I HOPE THIS CLARIFIES....

Lol.

He also asked a few people to send him logs of running map 3 with 93 octane fyi as 93 is consider high quality fuel as in the map 3 description.

@Terry@BMS am I correct am I the crazy one?

 

[Angel]

For the record I personally dont care if the JB4 caused the issue or not at the end of the day I am just telling people to be careful and use the product as intended .....simple follow the rules

I've ran map 2 for 7 months and nearly 10k miles problem free. Starting to feel the itch again, though.

If I remember correctly the recommendation for map 3 is high quality fuel, octane booster, e85 mixture, or race gas. I don't remember reading that 93 WONT work IF the specific 93 is considered "high quality".

I do recall reading about another car that failed die to BOVs though.

Guess I'll wait and see.

i dont know what the problem was Terry can clarify if he recommend to run map 3 on 93 octane? That is his product and he knows a lot more than I do .... I personally would not do it on 50 k car....if I ran map 3 i would use the proper fuel that is all im saying......those that want to run map 93 and run map 3 on 93 octane with no issues good for you....I am not risking it .....maybe it was the BOV not sure ...i will know more details in the next couple of days.....

 

[Angel]

Lol.

He also asked a few people to send him logs of running map 3 with 93 octane fyi as 93 is consider high quality fuel as in the map 3 description.

@Terry@BMS am I correct am I the crazy one?

I personally dont consider 93 octane high quality fuel........I consider anything above 95 octane or so high quality or E30 mix.....or i might be wrong but on my is 300 i ran race fuel and E85 and that was considered high quality according to my tuner not 93 octane

 

[Terry@BMS]

In terms of map3 on 93 octane you'd want to look at the logs to evaluate it, but I expect it will work fine for most.

 

[Angel]

In terms of map3 on 93 octane you'd want to look at the logs to evaluate it, but I expect it will work fine for most.

Can you define fine for most??? what about those not included on most?? what are the potential consequences?

 

[Terry@BMS]

Can you define fine for most??? what about those not included on most?? what are the potential consequences?

Running too much boost for your octane may result in misfires, timing pull which will be apparent in logs, making less power than map2, etc. Not going to blow a turbo or cause smoking. I'd look to your bolt on hardware for that.

Blow off valve and dps are primary suspects, if you did an oil catch can kit those also can cause smoking if not designed properly. Tell me more about your blow off valve kit, did it use the factory control solenoid?

 

[Angel]

Running too much boost for your octane may result in misfires, timing pull which will be apparent in logs, making less power than map2, etc. Not going to blow a turbo or cause smoking. I'd look to your bolt on hardware for that.

Blow off valve and dps are primary suspects, if you did an oil catch can kit those also can cause smoking if not designed properly. Tell me more about your blow off valve kit, did it use the factory control solenoid?

Is not my car, its my friend.....i personally have the SSR Down pipes and Muffler delete, DIY intakes and snorkles, and Tork motorsport oil cacth cans .....Have you had a chance to review the Tork motorsports oil cacth cans? are those properly design? i personally have them but am a little suspect? Anthiny had HKS BOv's and oil cacth can from K8

FYI i have no issues on my JB4 with my mods at all on map 2 daily no issues....runs strong

 

[Terry@BMS]

I see. In any event this smoking issue has nothing to do with JB4 and especially not our V5 firmware. So if you want to make a "Smoking Stinger" thread with details I'd be happy to chime in there with theories once we have a little more information on it.

 

[jraj7995]

I am running map2 with v5 and I think I have run into the overboost issue two or three times with 0 boost on the stinger stock gauges requiring me to pull over, turn the car off and turn it back on again to get boost. I have the SSR downpipes, JT FMIC and intakes but haven't been able to log it the times it has happened. Would this be something just to tune out with the JB4 or is this more of a BPV problem? Guessing logs will be required?

 

[WildBill]

I am running map2 with v5 and I think I have run into the overboost issue two or three times with 0 boost on the stinger stock gauges requiring me to pull over, turn the car off and turn it back on again to get boost. I have the SSR downpipes, JT FMIC and intakes but haven't been able to log it the times it has happened. Would this be something just to tune out with the JB4 or is this more of a BPV problem? Guessing logs will be required?

Sounds like the overboost / turbine overspeed that others have reported.
Terry has told others that he needs a log from the pull that causes the code, logging after you have 0 boost does him no good.
If you could get that and post it, it would certainly help out the community.

 

[Terry@BMS]

I am running map2 with v5 and I think I have run into the overboost issue two or three times with 0 boost on the stinger stock gauges requiring me to pull over, turn the car off and turn it back on again to get boost. I have the SSR downpipes, JT FMIC and intakes but haven't been able to log it the times it has happened. Would this be something just to tune out with the JB4 or is this more of a BPV problem? Guessing logs will be required?

Did it come up when letting off the gas or during partial but not full throttle? If so something else to test would be setting FutureUseD Bit#1 on (FUD will show as 2 after saving), which disables the pedal input boost target smoothing, that I suspect caused that issue in another car.

If that doesn't fix it then just email me a log so we can keep working on it for you. terry@burgertuning.com

 

[robz32]

@jraj7995 I know this might sound crazy. But any chance you can replicate the issue while login on the JB4?

 

[jraj7995]

I'll give it a try and see if I can replicate the issue first before I try those options above so we can put a pin in the problem. I only noticed that I had no boost while on partial throttle when coasting on the highway and then went to give it some but I don't know when exactly the loss of boost first started as I would have accelerated out of a turnoff before - thus it could have been any of the options

 

[niko]

this is with the octane booster how does it look to u @Terry@BMS

 

[DiabloStinger]

That looks like someone went nuts with silly string