I think I know why STI and WRX’s want to race us...

[WRXtoStingerGT]

If your perspective is that it's SO comical to compare them, like the WRX is a 95/100 and the Stinger a 60/100, but the professional driver gets a better time in the Stinger, then I'm saying that maybe you need to re-evaluate your perspective. Or at least not make such hyperbolic claims that it's "comical" to compare them. If you said "they're close, but I prefer the WRX", that I can buy.

You're coming off like the guys in Priuses claiming their cars are faster than a Vette because they floored the Prius off the light when the Vette driver wasn't even thinking of racing...

I don't think you read word for word what I wrote in this entire thread top to bottom. I am saying, that with video evidence, my 2014 WRX (stock but with summer tires from the factory) was able to do 0-60 faster than my stock 2020 Stinger GT RWD (with OEM summer tires) if you revved it out like you don't car about the care and dump the clutch. I also said, that on extremely tight and narrow backroads, that more often than not the WRX will be faster and have the advantage FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND PERSEPCTIVE. Not once have I said that the WRX is a superior vehicle nor that it is a good comparison. Comparing a 2014 wrx to a 2020 stinger gt rwd is apples to oranges and should not be compared. One is a budget stripped car that is a manual transmission light little AWD grocery getter with no back up camera, no navigation, no blind spot monitoring, etc... the other is a far larger and more refined elegant luxurious gran touring powerful sedan that does not come with manual transmission... I am not here to fight or argue. I understand the Stinger is better and I have said myself COUNTLESS times that the Stinger is better and I prefer it. I am not some minimum wage kid who vapes and wears wool caps in the summer who saved up for five years to afford a second or third hand beat up WRX just to try to impress my other "quarta' mila' atta' time boyz" friends...

Wow that thread have escalated...

What I can say to this is felling faster and being faster is two different concept. Small cars with very tight / no body roll will feel faster in turns. Cars with less road isolation, more exhaust sound will feel faster.

Stinger stock sway is not very good (feeling wise) but in fact when you get used to it you can turn reasonably fast for what it is. It does not change much the performance to get it tighter with AFM sways, you just feel more safe in turn but you are not really able to go faster after all.... For the majority of us non expert drivers though we might be able to go faster with new swaybar just because you can judge the limits better with them vs without.

For the WRX/STI vs Stinger for me there is a world of difference in those two cars so they "FEEL" very different. But if we are speaking about track with professional driver show me numbers to prove one car being faster vs the other. Without numbers my guess would go though for the Stinger is most situation beside anormally tight tracks but I do not have anything to back my claims.

If we are speaking about average Joe feeling he can go faster with one vs the other on public road then fine we cannot argue with that perception. On the other hand Stinger and WRX/STI are performing well in curvy roads when compared to many other similarly priced cars and can be driven beyond what one should consider safe speed on public roads anyway....

This is exactly 100% what I have said multiple times. Do people not know how to read on these forums lol? I have said... multiple times... that in the hands of a professional verses in the hands of the "average" or "normal" person it is apples to oranges and a silly comparison. Obviously a pro-driver can get the "perfect" numbers out of any cars and guess what? Yeah... on very specific tracks the Stinger comes out on top in the hands of a pro... but in many other environments and in the hands of regular everyday people it may not be so...

*sigh*

I am not here to fight or argue but people need to read the entire thread or read someone's entire post before responding. I doubt that anyone driving these cars (because I am assuming they work a decent job to afford them) struggles with middle school reading comprehension skills. Just my two cents.

 

[Jayphil]

I don't think you read word for word what I wrote in this entire thread top to bottom. I am saying, that with video evidence, my 2014 WRX (stock but with summer tires from the factory) was able to do 0-60 faster than my stock 2020 Stinger GT RWD (with OEM summer tires) if you revved it out like you don't car about the care and dump the clutch. I also said, that on extremely tight and narrow backroads, that more often than not the WRX will be faster and have the advantage FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND PERSEPCTIVE. Not once have I said that the WRX is a superior vehicle nor that it is a good comparison. Comparing a 2014 wrx to a 2020 stinger gt rwd is apples to oranges and should not be compared. One is a budget stripped car that is a manual transmission light little AWD grocery getter with no back up camera, no navigation, no blind spot monitoring, etc... the other is a far larger and more refined elegant luxurious gran touring powerful sedan that does not come with manual transmission... I am not here to fight or argue. I understand the Stinger is better and I have said myself COUNTLESS times that the Stinger is better and I prefer it. I am not some minimum wage kid who vapes and wears wool caps in the summer who saved up for five years to afford a second or third hand beat up WRX just to try to impress my other "quarta' mila' atta' time boyz" friends...


This is exactly 100% what I have said multiple times. Do people not know how to read on these forums lol? I have said... multiple times... that in the hands of a professional verses in the hands of the "average" or "normal" person it is apples to oranges and a silly comparison. Obviously a pro-driver can get the "perfect" numbers out of any cars and guess what? Yeah... on very specific tracks the Stinger comes out on top in the hands of a pro... but in many other environments and in the hands of regular everyday people it may not be so...

*sigh*

I am not here to fight or argue but people need to read the entire thread or read someone's entire post before responding. I doubt that anyone driving these cars (because I am assuming they work a decent job to afford them) struggles with middle school reading comprehension skills. Just my two cents.

FYI I was just saying differently, in my words, my perspective which is to some extend what you already said previously... I clearly understood your position. That is why sometime I hate forums, people react to your message like if you were judging them but I wasn't...

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

FYI I was just saying differently, in my words, my perspective which is to some extend what you already said previously... I clearly understood your position. That is why sometime I hate forums, people react to your message like if you were judging them but I wasn't...

You're 100% correct!

My bad. I'm probably misinterpreting some of this simply because, as you said, it's the forums. The same can be said with texting or emails. Sometimes when there isn't that "human" side with the volume of a person's voice or the "way" they say things... etc...

Anywayz... not here to argue and I do apologize if I came across negative.

Either way... I know nobody is judging anyone here. These are car forums. We come here to discuss, learn, and grow. As my original post, way back at the start said, there are "vapers" or whatever kinda people that drive all sort of different cars out there. I saw plenty in the e36 community and the WRX community. I kinda saw someone like that in the Stinger community... he was smoking a jule and his car was wrapped with some funky orange/purple wrap and had a claw (like a lion or bear claw) on the side of the car. I know you can pick up a used Stinger in the low $20k's bracket now... not judging anyone's budget but that's the same price bracket I picked up my WRX so it's anyone's game...

 

[Nocostinger]

At the end of the day, they're two entirely different cars. I used to live on Maui where our sunday drive was a flat-out hoon up Haleakala, the dormant volcano on one side of the island. It was a good 40 miles of short straightaways leading to hairpins and switchbacks on nicely paved and cambered road.
In our club, we had a handful of WRX/STI guys and a handful of BMW M guys that had a friendly competition on fastest times from one mile marker to another 10 miles up. I'll tell you this: In the corners, the STI's center diff allowed them to get into and out of the hairpins faster than an M3/M4/M5. M2's were a different story for obvious reasons but the STI for the money was an absolute animal in the corners. At the drag strip, massive gap in times as the STI isn't geared for flat-out acceleration.

When I started this thread, I was laughing at a guy who responded to another comment that I replied to about "fastest daily driver under $40k" which, the Stinger is a pretty good contender. I found great humor in his blind, un-googled responses.

 

[FreePreview]

My buddy has a '19 WRX with an Invidia catback exhaust and Cobb AccessPort (Map3 93 Octane Tune) on it, and we did a 40 roll the other night.
(My specs - AWD GT1 w/ K&N intakes & aftermarket secondary downpipes)
He held tough for about 2 seconds, then I started to walk him. Off the line I know I have him too having ridden in both cars.

I have no doubt a WRX would be more fun around a track, but straight line a WRX has no chance against a Stinger (at least an AWD one)

 

[stoopid]

1 - My WRX was the 2014 which was faster 0-60 than the newer generations due to the five-speed rather than the six-speed.

2 - Comparing my 2014 WRX (SPT catback from factory + COBB APV3 Stage 1 tune and very good aftermarket tires/brakes) to my current Stinger GT, as I said, there is zero comparison. The gap that is created on a track/circuit/road-coarse/etc wont be lost by the straight away. Heck I mean... If I launched my WRX correctly (and very aggressively) I could get 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds... but again... it was the FIVE SPEED not the six speed... any wrx/sti with the SIX SPEED or CVT does 0-60 anywhere from 5.2-6.2 seconds depending on who is testing....

3 - The margin between a stock 2014 wrx 5-speed, a stock 2020 sti 6-speed, and a stock 2020 stinger gt auto for track use... huge tbh... in favor of the Subaru... I am not being biased at all... I love the Stinger and I think it is overall TEN TIMES a better car than any Subaru (stock or not stock) but from a performance standpoint it's a comical comparison... at least in my opinion...

4 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi 0-60, quarter mile, acceleration times - AccelerationTimes.com maybe so but I have a video of my stock 2014 wrx doing 0-60 in 5.1 seconds flat without even a proper launch... and on oem bridgestone potenza summer tires... with a clutch dump launch it was 4.6 seconds... all of this was before the exhaust and tune and upgrades aftermarket tires... <3

I asked for and appreciate your (as well as a couple other) honest assessment(s) based on your own anecdotal experience.

It's good to see everyone kiss and make up. Emotions are a bit rawer than normal right now, there's pent up WTF in all of us.

 

[DoctorStiches]

I agree some car enthusiasts will not see the light. So to say. But i have only had 1 sti that wanted to race. It was a roll. 40-100 or so. It must have been modified because she stuck right beside me. It was a big smile on both of our faces and i gave her a clap and a wave goodbye.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

My buddy has a '19 WRX with an Invidia catback exhaust and Cobb AccessPort (Map3 93 Octane Tune) on it, and we did a 40 roll the other night.
(My specs - AWD GT1 w/ K&N intakes & aftermarket secondary downpipes)
He held tough for about 2 seconds, then I started to walk him. Off the line I know I have him too having ridden in both cars.

I have no doubt a WRX would be more fun around a track, but straight line a WRX has no chance against a Stinger (at least an AWD one)

100%

I asked for and appreciate your (as well as a couple other) honest assessment(s) based on your own anecdotal experience.

It's good to see everyone kiss and make up. Emotions are a bit rawer than normal right now, there's pent up WTF in all of us.

Yup. Clearly.

At the end of the day, they're two entirely different cars. I used to live on Maui where our sunday drive was a flat-out hoon up Haleakala, the dormant volcano on one side of the island. It was a good 40 miles of short straightaways leading to hairpins and switchbacks on nicely paved and cambered road.
In our club, we had a handful of WRX/STI guys and a handful of BMW M guys that had a friendly competition on fastest times from one mile marker to another 10 miles up. I'll tell you this: In the corners, the STI's center diff allowed them to get into and out of the hairpins faster than an M3/M4/M5. M2's were a different story for obvious reasons but the STI for the money was an absolute animal in the corners. At the drag strip, massive gap in times as the STI isn't geared for flat-out acceleration.

When I started this thread, I was laughing at a guy who responded to another comment that I replied to about "fastest daily driver under $40k" which, the Stinger is a pretty good contender. I found great humor in his blind, un-googled responses.

That's a beautiful post. I wish I could bring my car to Hawaii. The last time I went (only been twice in my life but they were one of the best vacations I ever had) I had to rent a little minivan lmfao.

I agree some car enthusiasts will not see the light. So to say. But i have only had 1 sti that wanted to race. It was a roll. 40-100 or so. It must have been modified because she stuck right beside me. It was a big smile on both of our faces and i gave her a clap and a wave goodbye.

Did she then give you her number? lol

 

[DoctorStiches]

Did she then give you her number? lol

Married with child lol no thanks
(Me not her lolol)

 

[Nocostinger]

100%


Yup. Clearly.



That's a beautiful post. I wish I could bring my car to Hawaii. The last time I went (only been twice in my life but they were one of the best vacations I ever had) I had to rent a little minivan lmfao.


Did she then give you her number? lol

If you go back to Maui let me know. I have a client there who rents exotics and sports cars for that exact purpose. Had a client of mine there a few months back for vacation and they rented one of his BMW M4's to blast up the mountain.
It was some of the finest driving I've ever experienced. It just sucked having fun at $5.50 for premium fuel and only getting 12-14mpg.

But, my father just bought a GT1 rwd and hasn't had anything fast since his old TL type S. Hes driven to the summit a couple of times and is having a ton of fun doing it. Hes now one of two stinger GTs on the island.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Married with child lol no thanks
(Me not her lolol)

lmfao just teasing silly!! ;p

If you go back to Maui let me know. I have a client there who rents exotics and sports cars for that exact purpose. Had a client of mine there a few months back for vacation and they rented one of his BMW M4's to blast up the mountain.
It was some of the finest driving I've ever experienced. It just sucked having fun at $5.50 for premium fuel and only getting 12-14mpg.

But, my father just bought a GT1 rwd and hasn't had anything fast since his old TL type S. Hes driven to the summit a couple of times and is having a ton of fun doing it. Hes now one of two stinger GTs on the island.

I will absolutely take you up on that once this COVID nonsense is over and I have the free time. Would be very fun to have a "fun car day" during the trip.

 

[Nocostinger]

lmfao just teasing silly!! ;p


I will absolutely take you up on that once this COVID nonsense is over and I have the free time. Would be very fun to have a "fun car day" during the trip.

I've rented GT Mustangs from Enterprise a couple of times and absolutely abused the hell out of them. Its a good time driving up the mountain.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I've rented GT Mustangs from Enterprise a couple of times and absolutely abused the hell out of them. Its a good time driving up the mountain.

Haha you savage!

 

[Nocostinger]

Haha you savage!

Oh its a blast. I have State Farm so, rental cars are covered and I have no problems cooking tires when the Mustang GT costs $120 for a day. I can definitely cook $100 in tires in a day lol

 

[DemianCush]

lmfao I think there are arrogant people and annoying trolls from all walks of car life... whether that is the WRX/STI crowd or the Civic crowd or the M3 crowd or whatever...

I owned a WRX for many years... I have always respected and shown respect for what other people drive and are into...

I also will say that comparing the Stinger to a WRX is completely apples to oranges... my 2014 WRX would dominate my current 2020 Stinger Gt on any track, circuit, road course, or back road. Heck... even off the line it would be neck and neck to sixty if the proper launch...

Most of my friends drive WRX/STI toys or the occasional MS3 and Evo... none of them smoke or vape but some do occasionally frequent a hookah bar or smoke lounge...

lol... I say drive what you wanna drive and love it for yourself but always keep an open mind and show respect for what other people have in their driveway or garage...

I've always appreciated the performance of the WRX. Subaru has incredible reliability and resale value- this of course had me consider the Subaru. Turns out the WRX is the reliability outlier of the brand. The Stinger with, in my opinion, the better looks, bigger size and better finishes made it an easy (EASY) choice. I'm into it with a JB4 tune, exhaust and a couple bolt ons so far... but warmer weather will finally bring ARK springs, Eibach roll bars and sticky Pilot 4S's. Even with the overall higher pricetag- the rarity of this car and its mysterious sexy appeal would have me do it all over again. Watch me pull away- even as you think you should catch me in the windy sections of road.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Oh its a blast. I have State Farm so, rental cars are covered and I have no problems cooking tires when the Mustang GT costs $120 for a day. I can definitely cook $100 in tires in a day lol

Yeah it sounds like I definitely need to send you a PM someday lol!

I've always appreciated the performance of the WRX. Subaru has incredible reliability and resale value- this of course had me consider the Subaru. Turns out the WRX is the reliability outlier of the brand. The Stinger with, in my opinion, the better looks, bigger size and better finishes made it an easy (EASY) choice. I'm into it with a JB4 tune, exhaust and a couple bolt ons so far... but warmer weather will finally bring ARK springs, Eibach roll bars and sticky Pilot 4S's. Even with the overall higher pricetag- the rarity of this car and its mysterious sexy appeal would have me do it all over again. Watch me pull away- even as you think you should catch me in the windy sections of road.

I mean idk where you live but the Stinger isn't really "that mysterious" or "rare" in my opinion. I mean, sure, it's not as common as a BMW or Audi or Benz but often it gets mistaken for one.

Also, obviously dumping mods into a car that is already $10k more expensive will yield superior performance to the WRX. But that's like me saying that the Stinger is slow because it's a base model stock GT-RWD and I have a Stage 3+ WRX pushing over 400+ horsepower while being significantly lighter and smaller. lol

But yeah the Stinger is a fantastic car! I am very impressed with it to this day.

 

[DemianCush]

Yeah it sounds like I definitely need to send you a PM someday lol!



I mean idk where you live but the Stinger isn't really "that mysterious" or "rare" in my opinion. I mean, sure, it's not as common as a BMW or Audi or Benz but often it gets mistaken for one.

Also, obviously dumping mods into a car that is already $10k more expensive will yield superior performance to the WRX. But that's like me saying that the Stinger is slow because it's a base model stock GT-RWD and I have a Stage 3+ WRX pushing over 400+ horsepower while being significantly lighter and smaller. lol

But yeah the Stinger is a fantastic car! I am very impressed with it to this day.

I've got a solitary "E" badge on the front of my car which gets me questions almost every time I stop somewhere.... I live in Eastern Oregon where an F250 Tremor is the sports car of record. I've never seen a Stinger in the wild out here. There are honestly quite a few Mustang owners around but they must put those to bed for the winter and feel fortunate that summer road conditions didn't kill them in that unruly beast. Couple IS300's, two 3 series of some randomly assigned number or another (no M's) and three Camaro's that my son wishes I were driving instead- he's 13 and doesn't know shit (including that the long showers are a dead giveaway to his little "discovery") about a Camaro screaming "tiny penis" to the world. But yea... no judgement here either. I'll take my Stinger tho. =)

 

[DoctorStiches]

Where i live there are 2 stingers in my town. 4 or 5 in the next big town and i see maybe 1 or 2 other stingers a day (as a delivery driver) they are rare (should say, i see the same 1 in a driveway and one on the curb they both never move from what i can tell lol

 

[DemianCush]

Where i live there are 2 stingers in my town. 4 or 5 in the next big town and i see maybe 1 or 2 other stingers a day (as a delivery driver) they are rare (should say, i see the same 1 in a driveway and one on the curb they both never move from what i can tell lol

FedEx? Ops Manager for FedEx myself if so.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I've got a solitary "E" badge on the front of my car which gets me questions almost every time I stop somewhere.... I live in Eastern Oregon where an F250 Tremor is the sports car of record. I've never seen a Stinger in the wild out here. There are honestly quite a few Mustang owners around but they must put those to bed for the winter and feel fortunate that summer road conditions didn't kill them in that unruly beast. Couple IS300's, two 3 series of some randomly assigned number or another (no M's) and three Camaro's that my son wishes I were driving instead- he's 13 and doesn't know shit (including that the long showers are a dead giveaway to his little "discovery") about a Camaro screaming "tiny penis" to the world. But yea... no judgement here either. I'll take my Stinger tho. =)

Driving a Camaro screams "tiny penis" to the world in your eyes lol? Very interesting statement from an adult with a 13 year old child. I don't have any "E" badges. I have "Kia" on the hood, steering wheel, and the wheel caps but "Stinger - GT" on the rear. I plan to completely debadge my car entirely; including the "Stinger" and "GT" on the back. I prefer a clean look. I have seen probably about a dozen 2.0 Stingers in New York at this point and easily over two dozen 2.0 Stingers in Florida. I have only seen one other 3.3 and that was meeting another forum member a few weeks ago to look at his mods in person in upstate NY. I think this very much depends on where you live... which can be said for any vehicle. I saw more Ferrari's and Lamborghini's going to Aventura Florida & Miami Florida in 12 months than my entire life out in Virginia, Maryland, and DC.