I think I know why STI and WRX’s want to race us...

[Nocostinger]

 

[CeramicGT001]

Vape pen and flatbill hat sold separately.

 

[RedCal]

Vaping some serious stuff at that
Edited to add.... Is race derived code for blown head gasket?

 

[Nocostinger]

Its always the most rice-burner ones too...

 

[twig2121]

I've got both a wrx and stinger. Both are nice cars in different ways. I don't vape nor have funny hats.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

lmfao I think there are arrogant people and annoying trolls from all walks of car life... whether that is the WRX/STI crowd or the Civic crowd or the M3 crowd or whatever...

I owned a WRX for many years... I have always respected and shown respect for what other people drive and are into...

I also will say that comparing the Stinger to a WRX is completely apples to oranges... my 2014 WRX would dominate my current 2020 Stinger Gt on any track, circuit, road course, or back road. Heck... even off the line it would be neck and neck to sixty if the proper launch...

Most of my friends drive WRX/STI toys or the occasional MS3 and Evo... none of them smoke or vape but some do occasionally frequent a hookah bar or smoke lounge...

lol... I say drive what you wanna drive and love it for yourself but always keep an open mind and show respect for what other people have in their driveway or garage...

 

[Nocostinger]

lmfao I think there are arrogant people and annoying trolls from all walks of car life... whether that is the WRX/STI crowd or the Civic crowd or the M3 crowd or whatever...

I owned a WRX for many years... I have always respected and shown respect for what other people drive and are into...

I also will say that comparing the Stinger to a WRX is completely apples to oranges... my 2014 WRX would dominate my current 2020 Stinger Gt on any track, circuit, road course, or back road. Heck... even off the line it would be neck and neck to sixty if the proper launch...

Most of my friends drive WRX/STI toys or the occasional MS3 and Evo... none of them smoke or vape but some do occasionally frequent a hookah bar or smoke lounge...

lol... I say drive what you wanna drive and love it for yourself but always keep an open mind and show respect for what other people have in their driveway or garage...

Amen brother. An open mind is what lead me to the Stinger in the first place. I was shopping BMW 340's and the Mercedes C43 when this option popped up.

 

[RedCal]

lmfao I think there are arrogant people and annoying trolls from all walks of car life... whether that is the WRX/STI crowd or the Civic crowd or the M3 crowd or whatever...

I owned a WRX for many years... I have always respected and shown respect for what other people drive and are into...

I also will say that comparing the Stinger to a WRX is completely apples to oranges... my 2014 WRX would dominate my current 2020 Stinger Gt on any track, circuit, road course, or back road. Heck... even off the line it would be neck and neck to sixty if the proper launch...

Most of my friends drive WRX/STI toys or the occasional MS3 and Evo... none of them smoke or vape but some do occasionally frequent a hookah bar or smoke lounge...

lol... I say drive what you wanna drive and love it for yourself but always keep an open mind and show respect for what other people have in their driveway or garage...

Totally agree, just having a little fun... the WRX was a consideration, and one of my good friends is on his third WRX, and he doesn't vape, or own any flat brimmed hats lol

 

[stoopid]

I don't think the WRX or STi are unique anymore, there's comparable options or even larger cars like the Stinger that are fairly close in many performance metrics for around the same price. Subaru sells a lot of cars on yesterday's successes. [their inflated resale value is part evidence of this]

 

[stoopid]

... I also will say that comparing the Stinger to a WRX is completely apples to oranges... my 2014 WRX would dominate my current 2020 Stinger Gt on any track, circuit, road course, or back road. Heck... even off the line it would be neck and neck to sixty if the proper launch...

lol... I say drive what you wanna drive and love it for yourself but always keep an open mind and show respect for what other people have in their driveway or garage...

By how far of a margin would you, in your experience tracking both vehicles, say the gap is between the STi [stock] and Stinger GT [stock]?

Agree, there's a lot of aholes and nimrods in the car community. Just reading posts on the internet is enough to take the temperature and results in face palms on a regular basis.

 

[Luc343]

Looks like an wrx sti 0-100 is 5.5 secs. That much slower then a stock stinger of 4.9secs. It not even close.

Subaru Impreza WRX STi 0-60, quarter mile, acceleration times - AccelerationTimes.com

A wrx would be even slower.

No competition at all

 

[RedCal]

By how far of a margin would you, in your experience tracking both vehicles, say the gap is between the STi [stock] and Stinger GT [stock]?

Agree, there's a lot of aholes and nimrods in the car community. Just reading posts on the internet is enough to take the temperature and results in face palms on a regular basis.

The track layout would play very heavily into the times...very tight twisty track STI advantage, wider track with more straights, Stinger... in the end it would depend where the finish line is located. (assuming the equally skilled drivers and 100% stock cars)
Years ago I remember laughing at a mixed class battle between a 5.0 Mustang, and a Miata... coming out of the last turn before the straightaway the Miata was ahead of the Mustang, but as soon as they got on the straight, the Mustang would fly by the Miata... this was repeated EVERY single lap... (it was a tight street circuit)

 

[Nocostinger]

The track layout would play very heavily into the times...very tight twisty track STI advantage, wider track with more straights, Stinger... in the end it would depend where the finish line is located. (assuming the equally skilled drivers and 100% stock cars)
Years ago I remember laughing at a mixed class battle between a 5.0 Mustang, and a Miata... coming out of the last turn before the straightaway the Miata was ahead of the Mustang, but as soon as they got on the straight, the Mustang would fly by the Miata... this was repeated EVERY single lap... (it was a tight street circuit)

You're 100% correct. My old SCCA club president used to bring his 911 GT3 and his 93 Miata to the track. When the young kids started bragging about their V8 muscle cars he'd swap into his Miata and smoke em'. Good times.

That said, straight line the Stinger is a beast. Its not bad in the curves but at the end of the day, you're trying to get 4,000lbs to change direction rapidly. Regardless of how much power you have, more weight makes it less corner friendly. The biggest difference i've observed driving my Stinger hard against Subies is i'm able to get out of corners more quickly as well as get off the line faster. The STI seems to still be geared in such a way that launching in 1st gear seems to bog horribly compared to these new 8spd autos.
My feelings having driven both cars alot are that the Stinger is a superior daily driver. For 90% of what I do with my car its more comfortable for not only myself but also my children. Plus, hard to complain about a sub-40k fastback/hatchback.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

1 - My WRX was the 2014 which was faster 0-60 than the newer generations due to the five-speed rather than the six-speed.

2 - Comparing my 2014 WRX (SPT catback from factory + COBB APV3 Stage 1 tune and very good aftermarket tires/brakes) to my current Stinger GT, as I said, there is zero comparison. The gap that is created on a track/circuit/road-coarse/etc wont be lost by the straight away. Heck I mean... If I launched my WRX correctly (and very aggressively) I could get 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds... but again... it was the FIVE SPEED not the six speed... any wrx/sti with the SIX SPEED or CVT does 0-60 anywhere from 5.2-6.2 seconds depending on who is testing....

3 - The margin between a stock 2014 wrx 5-speed, a stock 2020 sti 6-speed, and a stock 2020 stinger gt auto for track use... huge tbh... in favor of the Subaru... I am not being biased at all... I love the Stinger and I think it is overall TEN TIMES a better car than any Subaru (stock or not stock) but from a performance standpoint it's a comical comparison... at least in my opinion...

4 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi 0-60, quarter mile, acceleration times - AccelerationTimes.com maybe so but I have a video of my stock 2014 wrx doing 0-60 in 5.1 seconds flat without even a proper launch... and on oem bridgestone potenza summer tires... with a clutch dump launch it was 4.6 seconds... all of this was before the exhaust and tune and upgrades aftermarket tires... <3

 

[turboAWD]

Dude, you might as well be smoking / vaping. Car and Driver tested the 2014 WRX at 3:15.5 in their lightning lap. Stinger GT was tested at 3:11.6. Almost FOUR seconds faster. And the WRX also had brake pad issues...

As a former Legacy GT owner, stage 3 (bnr16g turbo, injectors, downpipe) with the 5EAT + Hexmods F1 valve body, etc. The Stinger is faster in EVERY way. It MIGHT be a bit softer in the suspension (I had Konis on my LGT, just Whiteline sways on the Stinger), but with ECS10, I can adjust the suspension any way I like.

I get it - we all have our favorites, but the only comical comparison is your claim that the WRX is FASTER than the Stinger.

 

[RedCal]

Not trying to be argumentative but as turboAWD highlights (and my previous post about the track layout) - 0-60 times / drag racing have nothing to do with lap times... I bet I can peddle a tricycle around an autocross course faster than a top fuel dragster can do it... and they have great 0-60times
I love me a nice WRX... and they are pretty quick, let just agree to disagree, and call this horse well beat

 

[Nocostinger]

Dude, you might as well be smoking / vaping. Car and Driver tested the 2014 WRX at 3:15.5 in their lightning lap. Stinger GT was tested at 3:11.6. Almost FOUR seconds faster. And the WRX also had brake pad issues...

As a former Legacy GT owner, stage 3 (bnr16g turbo, injectors, downpipe) with the 5EAT + Hexmods F1 valve body, etc. The Stinger is faster in EVERY way. It MIGHT be a bit softer in the suspension (I had Konis on my LGT, just Whiteline sways on the Stinger), but with ECS10, I can adjust the suspension any way I like.

I get it - we all have our favorites, but the only comical comparison is your claim that the WRX is FASTER than the Stinger.

Man! We have brake pad issues too ya know!
Redcal is right, Track times vs drag times are totally different things. I worked for lexus and did a track day with a GSF...while it handled well, it was a pig in the hairpins. Fun smacking cones with an $85,000 car lol

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Dude, you might as well be smoking / vaping. Car and Driver tested the 2014 WRX at 3:15.5 in their lightning lap. Stinger GT was tested at 3:11.6. Almost FOUR seconds faster. And the WRX also had brake pad issues...

As a former Legacy GT owner, stage 3 (bnr16g turbo, injectors, downpipe) with the 5EAT + Hexmods F1 valve body, etc. The Stinger is faster in EVERY way. It MIGHT be a bit softer in the suspension (I had Konis on my LGT, just Whiteline sways on the Stinger), but with ECS10, I can adjust the suspension any way I like.

I get it - we all have our favorites, but the only comical comparison is your claim that the WRX is FASTER than the Stinger.

Dude, you sound like a dumb dumb lmfao. You're going to compare numbers BY A PROFESIONAL DRIVER to real world numbers? Why don't you work on your reading comprehension skills. I said that FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE AND VIEW POINT my WRX felt faster and seemed to perform better on the same back roads and road courses and tracks that I raced on with my current Stinger. Again, this is just my own perspective and opinion. I am not saying that the WRX overall is a faster or superior car. Also, again if we shared the same level of reading comprehension, I said that a clutch dump in a 2014 WRX will have the same 0-60 if not better than my Stinger GT RWD since the WRX is AWD and the Stinger GT is RWD. Yes, you are probably correct, that the AWD version of the Stinger GT will be faster off the line than the RWD version of the Stinger GT.

Not trying to be argumentative but as turboAWD highlights (and my previous post about the track layout) - 0-60 times / drag racing have nothing to do with lap times... I bet I can peddle a tricycle around an autocross course faster than a top fuel dragster can do it... and they have great 0-60times
I love me a nice WRX... and they are pretty quick, let just agree to disagree, and call this horse well beat

I was asked for my opinion and my own experience in the real world driving a modified 2014 WRX and a stock 2020 Stinger GT RWD. From my own experience, in the real world, I am faster in my previous WRX on the same backroads than in my Stinger. Again, perhaps it's me still getting used to my car after only one year of ownership... but you're telling me on a tight circuit or rally-course that a 2014 wrx (stock) would not beat 9/10 times a 2020 stinger gt rwd (stock)?

Man! We have brake pad issues too ya know!
Redcal is right, Track times vs drag times are totally different things. I worked for lexus and did a track day with a GSF...while it handled well, it was a pig in the hairpins. Fun smacking cones with an $85,000 car lol

Obviously track times are different than drag times. There are many different types of tracks or other courses out there. Heck... there are many different types of drag racing out there too (1/4 mile, 1/8 mile, 1/2 mile, etc) whatever. I said that my Stinger is ten times a better car overall than my previous WRX but I also give credit where credit is due. I don't care about brand snobby-ness or recognition or "street racer cred" or any of that nonsense. I am simply comparing my experience in both cars.

We're driving Kia's. We are in the same bunch as Subaru, Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc... We're not BMW, Audi, MB, Porsche, Jaguar, Lexus, etc... heck... and I have friends and family that have owned all of those brands. Let's keep it real lol.

 

[turboAWD]

If your perspective is that it's SO comical to compare them, like the WRX is a 95/100 and the Stinger a 60/100, but the professional driver gets a better time in the Stinger, then I'm saying that maybe you need to re-evaluate your perspective. Or at least not make such hyperbolic claims that it's "comical" to compare them. If you said "they're close, but I prefer the WRX", that I can buy.

You're coming off like the guys in Priuses claiming their cars are faster than a Vette because they floored the Prius off the light when the Vette driver wasn't even thinking of racing...

 

[Jayphil]

Wow that thread have escalated...

What I can say to this is felling faster and being faster is two different concept. Small cars with very tight / no body roll will feel faster in turns. Cars with less road isolation, more exhaust sound will feel faster.

Stinger stock sway is not very good (feeling wise) but in fact when you get used to it you can turn reasonably fast for what it is. It does not change much the performance to get it tighter with AFM sways, you just feel more safe in turn but you are not really able to go faster after all.... For the majority of us non expert drivers though we might be able to go faster with new swaybar just because you can judge the limits better with them vs without.

For the WRX/STI vs Stinger for me there is a world of difference in those two cars so they "FEEL" very different. But if we are speaking about track with professional driver show me numbers to prove one car being faster vs the other. Without numbers my guess would go though for the Stinger is most situation beside anormally tight tracks but I do not have anything to back my claims.

If we are speaking about average Joe feeling he can go faster with one vs the other on public road then fine we cannot argue with that perception. On the other hand Stinger and WRX/STI are performing well in curvy roads when compared to many other similarly priced cars and can be driven beyond what one should consider safe speed on public roads anyway....