Eibach Sways & Springs

[Ozstung]

Thursday week for me.

 

[itguy61]

It takes me 30 mins to get car on the jack stand.

Mainly because I use factory jack. I should get a floor jack.

Already did back sway last month and planning to do front soon. Will keep both on soft. Then planning to try front soft and rear hard.

Yep it sometimes seems getting the car on the jack stands takes a while. Maybe I am just slow now.

 

[YOWStinger]

Which GTi?

It was a 2010 GTi, Eibach all around, it always felt like a little race car, tight turn in, a little bit of oversteer, but just compliant enough over the bumps to make it very livable.

 

[itguy61]

It was a 2010 GTi, Eibach all around, it always felt like a little race car, tight turn in, a little bit of oversteer, but just compliant enough over the bumps to make it very livable.

That sound just like how I feel about the Stinger now with the sway bars.

 

[YOWStinger]

That sound just like how I feel about the Stinger now with the sway bars.

I've got rear swaybar on now, front sway and endlinks and springs are in the garage waiting for an install. Rear sway was very satisfying, but still too soft for my tastes. I'm sure that with all of them installed I'll be quite satisfied with where it's at.

 

[itguy61]

I've got rear swaybar on now, front sway and endlinks and springs are in the garage waiting for an install. Rear sway was very satisfying, but still too soft for my tastes. I'm sure that with all of them installed I'll be quite satisfied with where it's at.

You are going all out. I just don't want to deal with spring lowering the ride height and causing alignment issues. I did that on my Mazdaspeed 3 and swore it was not worth the hassle.

 

[YOWStinger]

You are going all out. I just don't want to deal with spring lowering the ride height and causing alignment issues. I did that on my Mazdaspeed 3 and swore it was not worth the hassle.

I've done the same on my GTi, Z, and WRX, always loved the results, and Eibach always keeps the height change within OEM alignment specs, never had a problem with alignment afterwards.

 

[ShannonC]

Sways going in this morning

 

[AV8R]

Dazzabozza and Zeropenguins, we want a full report on the handling when fitted!

 

[ShannonC]

Installation completed by Dealer at Blacktown. Mechanic hadn't done an installation before but knew rear bracket on passenger side would be difficult. He chose to loosen chassis bolts which gave more room to work....easy. Front literally falls off.
After test drive his first comment was "it's made a big difference and feels more stable". He was very impressed, as was I on the drive home. Took 2hrs which included road test and me asking a lot of questions during installation. Total cost $275. I can't say I notice a difference in the front but the rear is really tight and near no movement over an uneven section of road. Only driven for 20 minutes so far but my first impressions are very positive.
As rear wheels were off I took the opportunity to thoroughly clean and apply ceramic coating to wheel barrels.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Installation completed by Dealer at Blacktown. Mechanic hadn't done an installation before but knew rear bracket on passenger side would be difficult. He chose to loosen chassis bolts which gave more room to work....easy. Front literally falls off.
After test drive his first comment was "it's made a big difference and feels more stable". He was very impressed, as was I on the drive home. Took 2hrs which included road test and me asking a lot of questions during installation. Total cost $275. I can't say I notice a difference in the front but the rear is really tight and near no movement over an uneven section of road. Only driven for 20 minutes so far but my first impressions are very positive.
As rear wheels were off I took the opportunity to thoroughly clean and apply ceramic coating to wheel barrels.
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Nice job, enjoy the upgrade.

 

[ZeroPenguins]

Dazzabozza and Zeropenguins, we want a full report on the handling when fitted!

Not exactly the full report that you were looking, but a quick update from me.

John Hughes at Welshpool charged me $338 dollars (was initially quoted at $380) to install the front and back swaybars.

Unfortunately, I do not really have any amazing first impressions as the roads here in Perth has been very wet for the past few days, and I didn't feel comfortable doing some hard turns + acceleration to test. I did notice that the suspension (?) feels slightly stiffer (e.g. slightly more harsh) but driving wise everything does feel good so far. On a side note, the Eibach sways were waaayyy more heavier than the stock ones, I noticed a big difference when carrying the stock ones back into my house, it was super light compared to the Eibach sways.

I will update back when the weather is a bit more decent and when I get an opportunity to drive my car again (I work in the CBD now, so I mostly just take public transport).

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[ShannonC]

Not exactly the full report that you were looking, but a quick update from me.

John Hughes at Welshpool charged me $338 dollars (was initially quoted at $380) to install the front and back swaybars.

Unfortunately, I do not really have any amazing first impressions as the roads here in Perth has been very wet for the past few days, and I didn't feel comfortable doing some hard turns + acceleration to test. I did notice that the suspension (?) feels slightly stiffer (e.g. slightly more harsh) but driving wise everything does feel good so far. On a side note, the Eibach sways were waaayyy more heavier than the stock ones, I noticed a big difference when carrying the stock ones back into my house, it was super light compared to the Eibach sways.

I will update back when the weather is a bit more decent and when I get an opportunity to drive my car again (I work in the CBD now, so I mostly just take public transport).

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I agree about the weight. Both Eibach bars are thicker than OEM, with the rear being solid and the front tubular. I can only assume the OEM's are both solid.
I also thought the same about the ride quality being a little firmer (on comfort) but it's not a concern for me. Haven't had an opportunity yet to test out decent cornering abilities but it will come later this month.
All up I'm happy with the overall performance and so far haven't encountered any uneasiness over uneven surfaces.

 

[Chris_e_fresh]

show us the pics lads!

 

[itguy61]

What settings (soft/firm) Did you put on each?

 

[YOWStinger]

I'm using Soft/Soft front and rear, major improvement just there.

 

[Ozstung]

Well I'm waiting for the earth shattering reaction on the new sways. I took it up and down the local twisty Mountain/Hill, the rears seems better but I didn't notice a lot from the front. Although ordinary driving the steering feels lighter but somewhat vaguer if that's possible. Under heavy exellaration I still got a small amount of rear shake. I'm probably going to have to give it another go. Maybe I was expecting WRX handling which I experienced for the last 13 years. Maybe setting to the firmer setting might be a solution.

Will report back after more analysis.

Foot note. Front springs don't feel as comfortable when cornering I'm thinking the front sways may gave impacted that luxury feel?

 

[Chucky]

I have the rear on firm and the front on soft and love the handling characteristics.

The Stinger will never handle like a WRX

 

[YOWStinger]

With the front on, turn in is noticeably better, with less roll, especially in back to back s-turns. Replacing the rear fixed the weird bounce on g-turns and significantly reduces rear roll. The springs of course, if you're still stock, will still be just as compliant as stock.

I'm not sure what you mean by "don't feel as comfortable", that's not something that sways change. All the sways do is help to compress/decompress the suspension on the other side of the car when they compress. This happens in a couple of obvious ways, when the car goes around a corner the outside suspensions compresses while the inside compression decompresses. The swaybar helps to "average that out", preventing the car from "leaning away from the corner". The other way you might feel it is over bumps, it's possible that that quick motion may transfer to the other side, but that's reasonably imperceptible given that you're going to feel the shock one way or another, you shouldn't really expect to feel "more" of the bumps.

 

[Ozstung]

The Stinger will never handle like a WRX

yep I do realise this but to be honest I was expecting to feel a lot more. The handling is marginally better, I'm thinking my Eibach springs obviously helped when I had those fitted last September. Back to the Mountain tomorrow for another go