3.3TT Eibach sway bar both or just rear for AWD Stinger

[jazzdabb]

UPS just came and went. I have an appointment to get an "oil change" Tuesday morning, the 25th Instant. Oh, and get the front bar put in too.

(The return address says "K5 Optima Store"; that K8 Stinger Store really is new! )

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the difference that "oil change" makes to handling.

 

[Snowwhite]

UPS just came and went. I have an appointment to get an "oil change" Tuesday morning, the 25th Instant. Oh, and get the front bar put in too.

(The return address says "K5 Optima Store"; that K8 Stinger Store really is new! )

The actual oil change will take more time than the sway bar install, since you have to wait for the oil to drain. The front is easy peasy. Takes more time to remove the plastic panel than to put on the bar.

 

[SnowyGT2]

Got these in very excited to get them installed with all the high praise they have been given. Waiting for a quote from a local shop, hopefully not too much.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Got these in very excited to get them installed with all the high praise they have been given. Waiting for a quote from a local shop, hopefully not too much.

Should take a good shop no more than 2hrs max. so if you know the going hourly rate that should be your max. cost.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Okay. Almost done. What's with the shrouds/boxes? Nobody ever mentioned these before. The installer said that they were "in the way" and wont' be needed with the Eibach.

 

[MerlintheMad]

The added front sway bar is a noticeable upgrade in steering feel as I corner "spiritedly". I tried it out on three corners that I am intimately familiar with and found the communication through the steering wheel to be far less unsettled or twitchy: which is the onset of oversteer; that is gone. And the front end feels more solidly planted, so, I guess less body roll that I had been accustomed to from the beginning.

 

[MerlintheMad]

But, what are these "covers"? The installer removed them and said something about "in the way". I can't even picture where they go.

 

[RedCal]

The added front sway bar is a noticeable upgrade in steering feel as I corner "spiritedly". I tried it out on three corners that I am intimately familiar with and found the communication through the steering wheel to be far less unsettled or twitchy: which is the onset of oversteer; that is gone. And the front end feels more solidly planted, so, I guess less body roll that I had been accustomed to from the beginning.

Sounds like it gets the Merlin seal of approval?

 

[Snowwhite]

But, what are these "covers"? The installer removed them and said something about "in the way". I can't even picture where they go.

were they on the front or rear axle? I haven't seen those, nor did I need to remove them to install the bars on either axle. But I have a RWD, not sure if those are up front somewhere.

 

[MerlintheMad]

were they on the front or rear axle? I haven't seen those, nor did I need to remove them to install the bars on either axle. But I have a RWD, not sure if those are up front somewhere.

Ah, AWD, I hadn't thought of that difference. But why would they be "in the way"? You can see that they went with the OE front bar; it the first pic 3.3TT - Eibach sway bar both or just rear for AWD Stinger they are related to that removal somehow.

 

[NS_Stinger]

I have AWD and never had to remove anything like that during my front bar install.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I have AWD and never had to remove anything like that during my front bar install.

Thanks. But do you still have them? What do they cover?

 

[Snowwhite]

I think they go above/behind the sway bar brackets. Copied from someone else’s post, I didn’t want to go jack up my car for a photo shoot.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I think they go above/behind the sway bar brackets. Copied from someone else’s post, I didn’t want to go jack up my car for a photo shoot.
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Thanks.

That is clearly the object. But, what is it's purpose? I can't see that it "covers" anything.

(He has his front bar set on "Hard".)

 

[Snowwhite]

Thanks.

That is clearly the object. But, what is it's purpose? I can't see that it "covers" anything.

(He has his front bar set on "Hard".)

most likely to keep the underbody tray in place, by keeping it from moving. also could be for wind deflection or to prevent road debris from going somewhere it shouldn't.

can you live without them? I'd say yes. Were it my car, I'd be under there putting them back on, or driving back to the shop to have them do it. no one else with aftermarket sway bars has needed to remove those.

 

[narsnail]

If you live in a shit climate with road salt/snow I'd keep them on, probably not necessary in a warmer climate. I had to take those off when I removed my front axles to get more leverage to pry them out.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I just got back from having the "covers" put back in. And after a closer inspection, with the undercarriage panel back in place, I can see what the function of these is: to deflect any debris coming up through the "aerodynamic slots" from impacting the steering arm boots behind.

 

[jazzdabb]

I’d say good call having those reinstalled. Glad you’re enjoying the changes!

 

[Daniel @ K8 Stinger Store]

I would recommend going with the Eibach Pro Plus Kit. This kit is one of the best bangs for the buck. You get both the front and the great sway bars and a set of arguably one of the best lowering spring options for the car.

You can view or purchase the Eibach Pro Plus Kit by clicking --> HERE​

 

[Brews]

I just had the Eibach rear sway bar installed last week, as well as the Mando ECS10. The work was done by a shop owned by a Stinger owner and who has installed aftermarket performance mods on numerous Stingers. Ever since it was done the car's sound has changed, droning constantly in any either stock mode, and both with and without the Mando activated. Has anyone else experienced this?

I'm completely mystified, but thought perhaps the bar changed the resonant frequency/harmonics of the car. I spoke with a friend who races and has built his own sway bars and bushings who suggested the bar might be touching an exhaust component, or touching another part which then touches an exhaust component. To make matters worse, there is now a pronounced shuddering feel in the engine - I don't think it's an unbalanced wheel or bent rim (the timing would be really improbable to coincide perfectly with the mod installations), and even the idle has become rough and the transmission less smooth.

It's like an NVH storm came up from mods which should have little to no effect on NVH. I know many posts regarding sway bars mention no effect on basic handling, but I do feel ride quality has suffered with the rear bar, which is set on soft, btw. No road is perfectly smooth in my area and this may be par for the course, but I'm wondering if something else is at work here. The car has definitely lost its silken feel (and I realize that feel might require the excessively soft rear suspension/bounce/float/mid-corner bump craziness that comes with the stock suspension).

For those who have the Mando, is there any possible effect that could be having in creating some electronics/control havoc and somehow interfering with the engine control and transmission programming? It sounds far-fetched but I'm racking my brain to figure out how/what is happening. The car does handle much better with the mods but the increasing and ongoing negatives have me thinking about returning to the stock rear sway bar!