Difference Between 2022 GT-Line and 2022 GT1

[hummus]

I've experienced too much too early when letting the trans downshift for me.

Truth. This is less of a safety issue than too little-too late, but can be embarrassing. Different symptom, same solution though

 

[MerlintheMad]

Truth. This is less of a safety issue than too little-too late, but can be embarrassing. Different symptom, same solution though

I visualize a new Stinger driver, using automatic trans, lacking long driving experience, flinging their 376 pound feet of torque into a lane change in fairly heavy traffic, i.e. taking that "hole" presented to them, and having it all go horribly wrong: as the car downshifts two gears and they instantly find out that their "hole" isn't nearly spacious enough for a twin turbo doing an acceleration worthy of zero to 60 in 4.7 seconds: will they get on the brakes soon enough? Embarrassment would be the least of their worries.

 

[hummus]

I visualize a new Stinger driver, using automatic trans, lacking long driving experience, flinging their 376 pound feet of torque into a lane change in fairly heavy traffic, i.e. taking that "hole" presented to them, and having it all go horribly wrong: as the car downshifts two gears and they instantly find out that their "hole" isn't nearly spacious enough for a twin turbo doing an acceleration worthy of zero to 60 in 4.7 seconds: will they get on the brakes soon enough? Embarrassment would be the least of their worries.

I can see this. Newer driver, first big-league car, I can see how the windshield might fill faster than expected. I still have more trust in someone having to reign in their own charging horse than I do in another who is trying to pull a maneuver in traffic with less energy than they were hoping for. I guess that underlines another benefit of being in the right gear: compression braking that will help snub momentum.

 

[monusa]

the 2.5 is no slouch it has 300hp but the 3.3 has 368hp and you definitely can tell the difference especially in sport mode.

For me, as long as the OP/buyer does not expect a "GT" when driving the 2.5T, they will have a realistic view of what 300HP is like in a turbo 4 vs. a V6. The experience is different and most make the mistake of just focusing on the numbers. I too, fell victim to this but in the real world, the 4 is a different animal.

I can sum it up this way: the speeding ticket I got a year ago was in a 2.0 but I promise you, it would have been the same in the V6 if I were going the same speed just would not have taken as long to get it.....LOL

 

[JSolo]

^^Speed tax

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Both the Stingers are priced to high in my area at the moment there are more GT2's available not to many Gt lines but they are all a waste of money right now just priced over what they are worth. In my opinion Kia will stop making the Stinger as they just don't sell enough to make an money. I know you don't care if Stinger stopped making them tomorrow. I was really looking at a nice GT but it was red and I don't want another red car. Then Kia wanted to go upscale and they took the sweet spot for the 3.3 away.

Oh I do care... and I do feel you on the whole red car thing. I actually could have saved an extra $1500 off my car if I chose the red one but I do not like colors that stand out. I'm sorry to hear that. :/

Why not get a CPO Stinger or look at another car then??

 

[DTD]

Oh I do care... and I do feel you on the whole red car thing. I actually could have saved an extra $1500 off my car if I chose the red one but I do not like colors that stand out. I'm sorry to hear that. :/

Why not get a CPO Stinger or look at another car then??

I think I will wait until the supply problem is over. Maybe look at a G70, I think I can still get the 3.3 with no sun roof. I still like the A4 but inventory in my area is 2.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I think I will wait until the supply problem is over. Maybe look at a G70, I think I can still get the 3.3 with no sun roof. I still like the A4 but inventory in my area is 2.

 

[TeeWadeG]

I think I will wait until the supply problem is over. Maybe look at a G70, I think I can still get the 3.3 with no sun roof. I still like the A4 but inventory in my area is 2.

i would stay away from used.

you mentioned bloated prices somewhere in here but the market does not effect new like it does used majority of the time

I would also broaden your search as far as distance.

I don’t know how much you drive, but if it’s just an average amount get some power. But if you drive a lot the 2.5 represents something pretty special


for perspective if I bought the 3.3 it would be the “slowest”’car I have purchased in 12 years.

I drove the 2.5 and loved it for what it is. It is much more significant than the 3.3. The 2.5 represents something special. here me out.

30+ mpg, 300+ HP/TQ, RWD platform, AND IT IS COMING FROM A POPULAR BRAND.

Since the beginning of the time engines with power and efficiency like this will come from Luxury Manufacturers.

Another one of my favorite things about this motor is one 99% of people don’t even talk about. This alone is going to make th a tank bruh. Super reliable.

this engine is Direct Injected and Port Injected !!!

Lexus and Toyota has used both forever which is one reason why they are always up top for reliability. The problem with their engines since 2015 is although reliable, they are just dated and lag behind in power/efficiency.

im telling you this engine is going to be extremely reliable

Multi port injection is older technology and has been around for awhile.

Direct injection is what most cars are nowadays. It came into fruition due to MPG requirements. It enables engines to make more lower, get better MPG, while emitting less emissions.

the problem with Direct Injection is carbon build up. You can slow carbon build up and minimize it but you can not stop it.

So for this 2.5 to feature both DI and MPI while bringing competitive MPG and HP to the table in a RWD platform that weighs less than 4K pounds from a non-luxury manufacturer, it sucks nobody bought the stinger

now, with that being said, I drive a lot. I’m pacing 78k this year. That’s $1000 a month or more in gas for something like the 3.3. But if you are just driving industry standard 12k a year, I would stick with 3.3.

If MPG is important never mind. But if it is not you get some stuff on the 3.3 that honestly I would look for in every single car you think about buying.

that would be active dampers and LSD.

Active dampers/adjustable suspension and LSD make such a big difference on so many levels. Most folks have never had them OR their current car has them for the first time. They are usually only thought of for performance purposes but they are extremely underrated for what how much better they make a car for day to day regular situations. They will make 9/10 cars 10x better

 

[JSolo]

^^Unclear from the documentation/marketing, does the awd in the 4 cyl do any sort of torque vectoring?

 

[DTD]

i would stay away from used.

you mentioned bloated prices somewhere in here but the market does not effect new like it does used majority of the time

I would also broaden your search as far as distance.

I don’t know how much you drive, but if it’s just an average amount get some power. But if you drive a lot the 2.5 represents something pretty special


for perspective if I bought the 3.3 it would be the “slowest”’car I have purchased in 12 years.

I drove the 2.5 and loved it for what it is. It is much more significant than the 3.3. The 2.5 represents something special. here me out.

30+ mpg, 300+ HP/TQ, RWD platform, AND IT IS COMING FROM A POPULAR BRAND.

Since the beginning of the time engines with power and efficiency like this will come from Luxury Manufacturers.

Another one of my favorite things about this motor is one 99% of people don’t even talk about. This alone is going to make th a tank bruh. Super reliable.

this engine is Direct Injected and Port Injected !!!

Lexus and Toyota has used both forever which is one reason why they are always up top for reliability. The problem with their engines since 2015 is although reliable, they are just dated and lag behind in power/efficiency.

im telling you this engine is going to be extremely reliable

Multi port injection is older technology and has been around for awhile.

Direct injection is what most cars are nowadays. It came into fruition due to MPG requirements. It enables engines to make more lower, get better MPG, while emitting less emissions.

the problem with Direct Injection is carbon build up. You can slow carbon build up and minimize it but you can not stop it.

So for this 2.5 to feature both DI and MPI while bringing competitive MPG and HP to the table in a RWD platform that weighs less than 4K pounds from a non-luxury manufacturer, it sucks nobody bought the stinger

now, with that being said, I drive a lot. I’m pacing 78k this year. That’s $1000 a month or more in gas for something like the 3.3. But if you are just driving industry standard 12k a year, I would stick with 3.3.

If MPG is important never mind. But if it is not you get some stuff on the 3.3 that honestly I would look for in every single car you think about buying.

that would be active dampers and LSD (Limited Slip Differential).

Active dampers/adjustable suspension and LSD (Limited Slip Differential) make such a big difference on so many levels. Most folks have never had them OR their current car has them for the first time. They are usually only thought of for performance purposes but they are extremely underrated for what how much better they make a car for day to day regular situations. They will make 9/10 cars 10x better

Pretty much agree with most of what you have said. I am not fan if used, l just am not confident enough to buy a used car as I don't know what it has been through. I know you were saying not to buy used because of the mark up on used cars. But I have been seeing big mark ups on new G70s really rediculus prices. I would definitley want the 3.3 but don't like panoramic sun roofs and don't really like hatches to many problems can be had with both. So if I could find a reasonably priced G70 AWD 3.3 that may be for me. But like I have mentioned a local dealer wants 50K for the 2.0 models. One 3.3 for 64K. They have one I was interested in a 2200, 3.3 AWD 46K but then the added 5 k to that plus it only has a 6 speaker radio. How do you put a cheap 6 speaker radio in a car that they are trying to sell 51K. What this dealer is doing is saying the MSRP is 48K for the 2.0 models they are just pulling numbers out of the air. The Genesis site says the MSRP for fully loaded 2.0 is only 42K. So I will wait and see how things work out down the road.

 

[TeeWadeG]

Pretty much agree with most of what you have said. I am not fan if used, l just am not confident enough to buy a used car as I don't know what it has been through. I know you were saying not to buy used because of the mark up on used cars. But I have been seeing big mark ups on new G70s really rediculus prices. I would definitley want the 3.3 but don't like panoramic sun roofs and don't really like hatches to many problems can be had with both. So if I could find a reasonably priced G70 AWD 3.3 that may be for me. But like I have mentioned a local dealer wants 50K for the 2.0 models. One 3.3 for 64K. They have one I was interested in a 2200, 3.3 AWD 46K but then the added 5 k to that plus it only has a 6 speaker radio. How do you put a cheap 6 speaker radio in a car that they are trying to sell 51K. What this dealer is doing is saying the MSRP is 48K for the 2.0 models they are just pulling numbers out of the air. The Genesis site says the MSRP for fully loaded 2.0 is only 42K. So I will wait and see how things work out down the road.

When the market is not crazy buying used is the best way. The most depreciation a car will see is the first 3 years. Industry average in miles in those theee years is 36k.

find one three years old with less than 36k miles. The lower the better.

this is really a great method when you are looking at the higher end trims With the best options for value I.e. bigger engines, active suspensions, LSD, gear ratios, AWD etc…

 

[7Andrei7]

^^Unclear from the documentation/marketing, does the awd in the 4 cyl do any sort of torque vectoring?

I think all Stingers have (brake based) Torque Vectoring, even RWD ones, except for the ones that have an LSD.
If you do a VIN check you should find the option.
I have a 2019 2.0 GT-Line RWD and it has this option: 5897A1 Dtvc(dynamic torque vectoring control)

 

[TeeWadeG]

^^Unclear from the documentation/marketing, does the awd in the 4 cyl do any sort of torque vectoring?

Unfortunately no. In 2022 Only GTs get the torque vectoring AWD.

I wish the GT Line did tho. That would make it a slam dunk.

 

[TeeWadeG]

I think all Stingers have (brake based) Torque Vectoring, even RWD ones, except for the ones that have an LSD (Limited Slip Differential).
If you do a VIN check you should find the option.
I have a 2019 2.0 GT-Line RWD and it has this option: 5897A1 Dtvc(dynamic torque vectoring control)

2022 GTs have torque vectoring AWD as an option for the first time

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[TeeWadeG]

I think I will wait until the supply problem is over. Maybe look at a G70, I think I can still get the 3.3 with no sun roof. I still like the A4 but inventory in my area is 2.

supply problem wont be over anytime soon. At least the pricing aspect of it.

shipping freights can’t carry any more cargo. They are for sure backed up for the rest of the year and probably getting more behind for next.

since they are transporting at full weight, that is where the higher cost for most things come from.

used cars however have already started to correct themselves. I am sure they will stabilizes before years end

 

[7Andrei7]

2022 GTs have torque vectoring AWD as an option for the first time

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That is absolutely not true for the EU market. Torque Vectoring has been present from the very beginning and is standard on all AWDs. I am pretty sure this was present in all brochures globally.
In the EU all RWD GTs and the GT-Lines from Frigid Zones have LSDs as standard and, apparently, GT-Lines from the Temperate Zones have Torque Vectoring instead of the LSD. As mentioned, this is a listed option on my car - GT Line from the Temperate Zone. The LSD was not an option for me (Romania) but in Poland for example, it was standard for the 2.0 GT Line.

I recommend getting a VIN from a '22 GT Line and try to get a complete list of options from a dealer. I would be surprised if Torque Vectoring is not on that list.

 

[TeeWadeG]

That is absolutely not true for the EU market. Torque Vectoring has been present from the very beginning and is standard on all AWDs. I am pretty sure this was present in all brochures globally.
In the EU all RWD GTs and the GT-Lines from Frigid Zones have LSDs as standard and, apparently, GT-Lines from the Temperate Zones have Torque Vectoring instead of the LSD (Limited Slip Differential). As mentioned, this is a listed option on my car - GT Line from the Temperate Zone. The LSD (Limited Slip Differential) was not an option for me (Romania) but in Poland for example, it was standard for the 2.0 GT Line.

I recommend getting a VIN from a '22 GT Line and try to get a complete list of options from a dealer. I would be surprised if Torque Vectoring is not on that list.

I apologize I thought I came in here and corrected the incorrect info I posted.

But 1000% sure the ‘22 GT-Line here in America does not get either the LSD or Torque Vectoring

 

[JSolo]

^^How would one test for the torque vectoring?

 

[TeeWadeG]

^^How would one test for the torque vectoring?

Trust me it is not on the ‘22 GT-Line. I bet you can go to Kia.com and build one.

for testing I don’t think you would want too.

but Enter a corner at high speed or for a corner long enough just punch it mid corner. Without torque vectoring your car is going to understeer .