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[MerlintheMad]

some people just cannot deal with all this postivity toward the Stinger let alone the Kia brand

@forzanerazzurri drives Kias, iirc. So he says, iirc.

 

[MerlintheMad]

@MerlintheMad I know most of what you say is intended in jest, but any vehicle that has issues with paint sticking to the metal is partially poorly built. The rest of the car is fabulous.

This isn't a witch hunt or anything more than s place to vent frustration over something that should not happen. The funny thing is I might have three paint chips from rocks... Holding up much better in that regard.

I don't know how you get what I say as intended to even be partially in jest. I am completely serious about the quality issues, all of them, that anybody is having with their particular cars. If I write in a style that tries to be also entertaining, it's because that is a habit.

I've seen individual cars from a plethora of models all of my life that have dog crap for paint; while nearly every other example of that model is fine. There have been infamous cases of paint failure: the Dodge/Plymouth vans being notable in this regard for paint simply coming off and leaving huge patches of "pristine" primer, looking for all the world like an invitation to simply respray. My particular Voyager was fine until it was almost twenty years old, then the first (not horribly large) patches of paint started to peel away. Stingers, by far and away, have no paint issues of any kind. Anyone on a "witch hunt" is doomed to look foolish pursuing this like a general failure, or poor build aspect, of the Stinger population. Some cars do have paint adhesion issues; some even more rare cases have really bad issues. And, Kia has been fixing them (not all of them well, but this is the world of humans); buying back; giving "good will" cheques, etc. They are on top of it. I checked out 8 MY19 (or was it 6, with two MY18? can't recall), and not one even had the driver side headlight rub issue of earlier in the year, let alone any paint issues pointing to adhesion or rash or pinprick bubbles, etc. I haven't heard of a MY19 yet on this forum showing paint failures like the MY18s. There will be some. But they will be even fewer than the less than three percent of affected MY18s.

 

[Kamauxx]

I don't know how you get what I say as intended to even be partially in jest. I am completely serious about the quality issues, all of them, that anybody is having with their particular cars. If I write in a style that tries to be also entertaining, it's because that is a habit.

I've seen individual cars from a plethora of models all of my life that have dog crap for paint; while nearly every other example of that model is fine. There have been infamous cases of paint failure: the Dodge/Plymouth vans being notable in this regard for paint simply coming off and leaving huge patches of "pristine" primer, looking for all the world like an invitation to simply respray. My particular Voyager was fine until it was almost twenty years old, then the first (not horribly large) patches of paint started to peel away. Stingers, by far and away, have no paint issues of any kind. Anyone on a "witch hunt" is doomed to look foolish pursuing this like a general failure, or poor build aspect, of the Stinger population. Some cars do have paint adhesion issues; some even more rare cases have really bad issues. And, Kia has been fixing them (not all of them well, but this is the world of humans); buying back; giving "good will" cheques, etc. They are on top of it. I checked out 8 MY19 (or was it 6, with two MY18? can't recall), and not one even had the driver side headlight rub issue of earlier in the year, let alone any paint issues pointing to adhesion or rash or pinprick bubbles, etc. I haven't heard of a MY19 yet on this forum showing paint failures like the MY18s. There will be some. But they will be even fewer than the less than three percent of affected MY18s.

Do you think that haven driven a Plymouth Voyager for the last 20 years you're less inclined to admit a Stinger could have a problem?

When you read, reply to, and dismiss people's issues is it because you're looking at the Stinger through rose colored glasses because by comparison to your last ride it's like a candy coated space ship?

I'm seriously curious about how you manage to come to the conclusions that you do. I really do believe it could be, at least in part, due to the vehicle you owned before the Stinger.

 

[Flameangel]

What all this boils down to is, for the last 12 months this car has been in “service” & 99.9% of all reviews in the media & by motoring journalists rate this car highly & some people just cannot deal with all this postivity toward the Stinger let alone the Kia brand, sure the car has some issues & faults, but hey what car doesn’t, in my experience & wilth most posted comments Kia has not run away from any issue & stands by their product.
So to the nay sayers or non Stinger Owners here or any other place else, you need to step back & take another look as you are becoming a minority of people who just cannot accept that for a first offering Kia has built a reasonable priced & excellent performance vehicle, imagine what the 2nd generation is going to bring....moving forward.

Kia have been very good to me.My Optima had to go in for it's 120,000 kms service and one of the front headlights wasn't working, I had mentioned this to them when I booked the car in and thinking it was just a globe replacement.When I went to pick it up they told me they hadn't got the globe, they had to order it in and I'd have to come back. I was a little puzzled they hadn't got it, turns out it wasn't a standard globe and was explained to me it was the same lights and globes they put in Mercs and was going to cost a little over $400 which includes installation.I know I bought the top spec Optima but I could have fainted.She realised the shocked look on my face and advised they would contact kia.Kia out of " goodwill " refunded me half the cost, which they certainly didn't have to because my car was out of warranty at the time.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Do you think that haven driven a Plymouth Voyager for the last 20 years you're less inclined to admit a Stinger could have a problem?

Lol. That is an interesting psychological question. It was twelve and a half years, but your point is made. (It was already eleven years old when I bought it from the original owner; the crazy retired guy who special ordered it with five on the floor.)

When you read, reply to, and dismiss people's issues is it because you're looking at the Stinger through rose colored glasses because by comparison to your last ride it's like a candy coated space ship?

Not a bit. The Stinger is a complete identity change when I get in and drive away. It gives me superpowers. And, it is very, very pretty, sound, luxurious and fulfilling. No candy coated spaceship could give me all of that!

But if there was anything wrong with my car, you guys would be the second ones to know about it. No rose colored glasses are required.

I'm seriously curious about how you manage to come to the conclusions that you do. I really do believe it could be, at least in part, due to the vehicle you owned before the Stinger.

Maybe a little bit. I have pushed the contrast several times before. It has been quite a shock. Both because it is a Kia, and it is a surprisingly good one. I thoroughly expected the performance differences. And the sound system differences. The enjoyment of a moonroof is easy to pass over; but it was one of my three "must haves". What has continued to underlay the enjoyment I get out of those three "must haves" is the aura of quality that my Stinger gives off in every way. Nothing has come loose, much less fallen off; nothing is scuffed or faded or discolored or looking like a factory finish is wearing away. The seats, the interior smell, the ambient lighting, the dash, the tightness of the air vents (I like inserting my fingertips in their grills and moving them around; the snugness of the fit is a small satisfaction); the utter lack of "car noise" that others justifiably complain about - from rattles and squeaks in the doors, to the sunroof, the hatch and even inside the dash - is a major contrast to ALL of the vehicles I have driven, from our brand new '71 VW Super Beetle when I was 17, through various Chevys, GMs, Fords, the lot; even the Peugeot (with a sunroof, mind) was squeaky and noisy. Not this car. 13,400+ miles and eight months later it feels and looks like it did the day I bought it. One day (probably this winter as we get into hard freezes) there will be some noise or other. It is a fallen world.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Kia have been very good to me.My Optima had to go in for it's 120,000 kms service and one of the front headlights wasn't working, I had mentioned this to them when I booked the car in and thinking it was just a globe replacement.When I went to pick it up they told me they hadn't got the globe, they had to order it in and I'd have to come back. I was a little puzzled they hadn't got it, turns out it wasn't a standard globe and was explained to me it was the same lights and globes they put in Mercs and was going to cost a little over $400 which includes installation.I know I bought the top spec Optima but I could have fainted.She realised the shocked look on my face and advised they would contact kia.Kia out of " goodwill " refunded me half the cost, which they certainly didn't have to because my car was out of warranty at the time.

Similar has happened to me with Kia, that’s why I keep going back. When I had my SS Holden wouldn’t warrant or do anything, lie through their teeth to get out or paying anyrhing, will probably never go to a Holden product ever again.

 

[Flameangel]

Similar has happened to me with Kia, that’s why I keep going back. When I had my SS Holden wouldn’t warrant or do anything, lie through their teeth to get out or paying anyrhing, will probably never go to a Holden product ever again.

yep, after service care has always been great with Kia, if your onto a good thing, better to stick with it.I have read in America when they were having paint issues with some of the stingers, as well as supplying a courtesy vehicle while their cars were repainted they gave them around $5,000 compensation, if that's not going above and beyond for customer satisfaction I don't know what is.

 

[Dan1028]

the aura of quality that my Stinger gives off in every way. Nothing has come loose, much less fallen off; nothing is scuffed or faded or discolored or looking like a factory finish is wearing away.

the utter lack of "car noise" that others justifiably complain about - from rattles and squeaks in the doors, to the sunroof, the hatch and even inside the dash

On a brand new, $50k car, NONE of those items should be present. On a brand new $16k car, NONE of those items should be present.

It's 2018. I'm not sure when the last time was that you bought a brand new car, but practically every manufacturer can meet your criteria on their least expensive vehicles. This would include cars like the Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Honda Fit, Ford Fiesta, Chevy Cruze, whatever. QA/QC on the lowliest of offerings is so good nowadays that it is simply EXPECTED that the items you list as "aura of quality" would otherwise be non-starters to any discerning consumer with a third of the budget of a GT2 shopper. The fact that more than a few on this forum, myself included, are having multiple significant residual factory QC issues is simply unacceptable in this day and age.

 

[MerlintheMad]

It's 2018. I'm not sure when the last time was that you bought a brand new car,

Never until the Stinger. So beaters, even good ones, are no comparison to a brand new, noiseless Stinger. That was my point.

The fact that more than a few on this forum, myself included, are having multiple significant residual factory QC issues is simply unacceptable in this day and age.

When does a few turn into "more than a few" or "many"? I only see a few owners complaining. Are you asserting that Kia puts more QC into a Rio?! The Stinger is new; the factories, processes, the lot; utterly brand new facilities for a brand new model. And here you few with issues are saying that the rest of us are just lucky. Heh.

 

[Kamauxx]

Never until the Stinger. So beaters, even good ones, are no comparison to a brand new, noiseless Stinger. That was my point.

I think the bigger point to be made is that you're comparing your car to 20+ year old "beaters" whereas the rest of us aren't. If I compared my car--even with its problems--to a 1998 Chevrolet Cavalier it would appear to be perfect as well. But over the last 15+ years I've owned plenty of mid-high priced brand new cars so my (and others') viewpoint isn't the same as yours.

And here you few with issues are saying that the rest of us are just lucky. Heh.

I wouldn't say you're "just lucky". I would definitely consider you a troll who lives to post in "problem" threads and tell owners they aren't having a problem because your car is fine and you're in some kind of weird man-car love affair with Kia.

I really don't understand why you get involved in all of these threads. You have no problems. You've told us, a lot! We get it. How about moving along and letting us all complain and gripe about our imaginary issues?

 

[MerlintheMad]

I really don't understand why you get involved in all of these threads. You have no problems. You've told us, a lot! We get it. How about moving along and letting us all complain and gripe about our imaginary issues?

Jeez. The old saw is true: "Misery loves company." Have at it. But I will put my oar in whenever I think someone is spouting nonsense and exaggeration. A particular fellow wears that crown. But he's hardly alone.

 

[Kamauxx]

words

/snip

*add to ignore list*

A troll's true kryptonite. Bye bye Douglas, it's been interesting.

...and just like that you no longer exist in my world. How wonderful technology is.

 

[MerlintheMad]

How stupidly people use it. Buhbye. Ignoring people is cheap enough. Using tech to spare yourself through virtual silence is, well, equal to what leftist, liberal, socialists do when they can't stand the effort to discuss things with their opposite number. I've never known a conservative to silence anybody via "ignore" features. I guess you've revealed your true self. I am disappointed. But, you'll never know.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

Ugh. Some ppl are just unfuckingbarable.

 

[Coast GT]

Similar has happened to me with Kia, that’s why I keep going back. When I had my SS Holden wouldn’t warrant or do anything, lie through their teeth to get out or paying anyrhing, will probably never go to a Holden product ever again.

Especially not now they’re shit European models or over priced US imports. I would’ve seriously considered a Camaro when I heard they were bringing them out but not now I’ve seen the price. Holden have shit customer service, always have done.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Especially not now they’re shit European models or over priced US imports. I would’ve seriously considered a Camaro when I heard they were bringing them out but not now I’ve seen the price. Holden have shit customer service, always have done.

Yep AU$90k+ for a Camaro...not bloody likely, I was last in the US in June/July 2016, Chevy Dealer had Camaro Convertible for US$41k = AU$56,700 on today’s exchange rate, who’s having a lend of who.
I always found it funny that our US brothers could buy a Chevy SS (Commodore SS/Calais hybrid) with more gear in it for less than we could & the bloody things were made here.

 

[Coast GT]

Yep AU$90k+ for a Camaro...not bloody likely, I was last in the US in June/July 2016, Chevy Dealer had Camaro Convertible for US$41k = AU$56,700 on today’s exchange rate, who’s having a lend of who.
I always found it funny that our US brothers could buy a Chevy SS (Commodore SS/Calais hybrid) with more gear in it for less than we could & the bloody things were made here.

Large part of the cost would be Chevy refusing to build them in RHD and HSV having to strip them back to the frame and rebuild them here once they get off the boat. Same as the Silverado, it starts at $120,000-$130,000 and it’s a bloody 4 door Ute ffs

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Large part of the cost would be Chevy refusing to build them in RHD and HSV having to strip them back to the frame and rebuild them here once they get off the boat. Same as the Silverado, it starts at $120,000-$130,000 and it’s a bloody 4 door Ute ffs

Yeah & the current Camaro was essentially designed & developed by Holden in Melb. based on the Zeta platform same as a Commodore but a shorter wheelbase.
So much so I believe it was a Melbourne Company offering Camaro front end bolt on for Commodore Utes a few years ago, FWIW it looks good.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Large part of the cost would be Chevy refusing to build them in RHD and HSV having to strip them back to the frame and rebuild them here once they get off the boat. Same as the Silverado, it starts at $120,000-$130,000 and it’s a bloody 4 door Ute ffs

Same with the Dodge Ram AU$130k+

 

[Coast GT]

Same with the Dodge Ram AU$130k+

Yeah as usual thanks to our poor dollar against the greenback and our shit government policies and tariffs imposed on imports along with the mandatory price gouging from the Australian distributors of foreign products we get shafted trying to buy things that are cheap in other countries