Bad paint micro blue gt

[Dan1028]

Never until the Stinger.

Well, welcome to your wakeup call. In the past 20 years, I've owned the following vehicles since new:

2001 Honda Prelude
2011 Volvo XC60 T6
2012 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS
2018 Kia Stinger GT2/AWD

The three preceding cars NEVER had paint issues. At worst, perhaps the Camaro's paint was thin, but it never was at risk for delamination. And rattles? Pfff. The Volvo at 7 years old is still buttoned up and rattle-free, paint is still excellent, and it cost $14-16k LESS than the Stinger.

In addition to my cars, my family has always bought or leased new. Here's a partial list:

1982 Nissan Sentra
1983 Honda Accord
1987 Honda Accord
1987 Acura Legend
1994 Honda Civic
1995 Volvo 850 GLT
1997 Acura 3.2 TL
2000 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
2000 Honda CR-V EX
2004 Acura MDX
2011 Hyundai Tuscon
2014 Acura MDX
2014 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport

I can definitively say that none of these vehicles had the issues you define as "aura of quality," even the ones that are now over 30 years old.

When does a few turn into "more than a few" or "many"? I only see a few owners complaining. Are you asserting that Kia puts more QC into a Rio?! The Stinger is new; the factories, processes, the lot; utterly brand new facilities for a brand new model.

A few, for many people, is something like three or four people. I'm pretty sure we have more than that number of owners with issues.

As to the Rio sure why not, I am saying exactly that. The Rio is a very high volume product compared to the Stinger, and the risk of loss to Kia is that much greater for warranty repairs and recalls that you can bet your rear end that they're QCing the hell out of that car. Limited production runs are not profit winners for manufacturers. They get people in the door to buy less expensive vehicles.

And to your point about things being new, so what? Are you excusing a manufacturer from doing their due diligence not to bring a defective product to market? "Hey, c'mon, they're doing their best." Geez, you'd be a star witness for an anti-consumer protection lobbying firm. Should a product be completely free from defect before it is brought to market? Yes. Yes, it actually should be. Is that reality? No. But the scope and impact of the defect is determinative of whether that defect can be tolerated. Paint defects on a brand new car? Not tolerable. Persistent rattle on one of the defining characteristics of the product? Not tolerable. And while I credit Kia for trying to address these in turn, it is still not acceptable for a brand new car of any kind in 2018.

A troll's true kryptonite. Bye bye Douglas, it's been interesting.

...and just like that you no longer exist in my world. How wonderful technology is.

Lol. I've thought of blocking him but I've never blocked anyone on a forum before. But @MerlintheMad, the reason it's annoying or even upsetting is because you clearly don't, or believe you don't, have issues others are posting about and you let everyone know that. Why gloat? It would be akin to going to thebump.com, talking with hopeful parents, finding a few that had miscarriages, fertility issues or birth defects, and then telling them "well, we got pregnant with no issues and our kids are perfectly fine; new medicine makes childbirth super duper, it's like, only a few of you sinners with problems and your kids are probably fine, you nitpicks."

Do you go to accident posts to announce how free of collision and perfect of driver you are? If not, why post about your car's immaculate quality when the subject of the post concerns a defect? It's troll behavior.

 

[MerlintheMad]

If not, why post about your car's immaculate quality when the subject of the post concerns a defect? It's troll behavior.

It's probably pointless to repeat myself: but my comments have all been directed toward assertions that the defect/issue under discussion is a "widespread" problem; or even "ALL Stingers have this issue", etc. I've never engaged to show how good my particular car is. Mentioning that I and a massive (97% plus) majority of owners do NOT have this issue, is not gloating. Sorry you take it that way.

A few, for many people, is something like three or four people. I'm pretty sure we have more than that number of owners with issues.

Fine. But a few all sharing pain on the same forum seems like more than a few; even though the percentage worldwide is miniscule.

I've thought of blocking him but I've never blocked anyone on a forum before.

I've never blocked anyone either. And I never will. When I've decided that a particular entity on a form is just there to engage in various forms of trash/troll talk I ignore them the "old school" way, by not responding, and often by not bothering to read what they say in the first place.

 

[Kamauxx]

Lol. I've thought of blocking him but I've never blocked anyone on a forum before. But @MerlintheMad,

He's my first on this forum, which is crazy because I've had quite a few scrapes here.

I blocked someone on another forum years ago because I kept getting temporary bans for cussing them out, lmao. It sucked though because his name would still show up in the posts but they would just say "you're blocking this person." The way this forum does it, by contrast is glorius! The instant I hit the ignore button and refreshed the page his weird little annoying doll playing with ass disappeared from my existence. There's no trace of his name, posts, nada. It's like he never signed up for the forum. Nirvana. Thanks Sal!


Anyway, I'm still waiting on a call back from my dealer regarding my rotor fix. I'll probably be calling Kia tomorrow to let them know that I can't get the service manager to call me back, even after my repair was approved out of warranty. Whether I call them tomorrow or finally get in touch with the service manager I'll definitely bring up the paint issue.

I normally only keep cars for a year or two but I figured the Stinger would be different. If I run the risk of having damaged panels in the long term I won't be holding on to it. Most of my mods are probably transferable to a G70, soooo....

 

[DiabloStinger]

So true @Kamauxx ... I'm giving a local dealer one shot at giving me a smoking deal to take an aged stinger off their lots tomorrow... Otherwise the repaint will begin next week. I guarantee this one will be gone either tomorrow or in about a month in a half when they try to give me back a repainted car. Funny thing is the G70 I saw at the car show was a reddish color, and the bumper was at least 2 shades different in color from the metal hood. I tried to capture it on camera but it just kept mating the colors for some reason. I know it is common but seems like it's only the weaker brands that have issues with this.
But yeah, I'd take a run at a g70 if they end up taking this one back.

 

[westcoastGT]

Ugh. Some ppl are just unfuckingbarable.

idiots love to argue , wrestling with a pig !

 

[BlueByYouGT]

idiots love to argue , wrestling with a pig !

Arguing is 1 thing, being a troll is just so stupid and unbecoming, especially for a person who's profile says he's 66 years old. His home life must be in f*cking tatters.

Anyway my old ass has two research papers due today. Gonna have to turn off the email. Notifications for this one.

 

[westcoastGT]

Arguing is 1 thing, being a troll is just so stupid and unbecoming, especially for a person who's profile says he's 66 years old. His home life must be in f*cking tatters.

Anyway my old ass has two research papers due today. Gonna have to turn off the email. Notifications for this one.

Way too harsh ....................Merlin is no Troll , he's a valued member , has great insight and a wicked sense of humour ......................I think you should call that one back .................

 

[Revvdmedia]

One member in this thread has caused a complete derailment. Let's try to keep it on the tracks from here forward. I've proposed and created another thread to be used specifically for pictures of paint issues and this may also qualify since I would consider it a defect at the very least. Whether this issue is truly widespread can be indicated in that thread, assuming only a percentage of owners are on this forum and only a proportion post there, Kia can do the math to determine if it is widespread enough to do something before it hits a point of significant litigation or such negative PR that it sinks the product.

 

[Kamauxx]

One member in this thread has caused a complete derailment. Let's try to keep it on the tracks from here forward. I've proposed and created another thread to be used specifically for pictures of paint issues and this may also qualify since I would consider it a defect at the very least. Whether this issue is truly widespread can be indicated in that thread, assuming only a percentage of owners are on this forum and only a proportion post there, Kia can do the math to determine if it is widespread enough to do something before it hits a point of significant litigation or such negative PR that it sinks the product.

I don't see any new threads. Where did you post it?

 

[Kamauxx]

Way too harsh ....................Merlin is no Troll , he's a valued member , has great insight and a wicked sense of humour ......................I think you should call that one back .................

Sorry WCGT, just because you like him doesn't mean he's any less disruptive to every single thread that deals with owner's issues with their car. It's his modus operandi. Your personal feelings about his likeability don't change that.

 

[Kamauxx]

So true @Kamauxx ... I'm giving a local dealer one shot at giving me a smoking deal to take an aged stinger off their lots tomorrow... Otherwise the repaint will begin next week. I guarantee this one will be gone either tomorrow or in about a month in a half when they try to give me back a repainted car. Funny thing is the G70 I saw at the car show was a reddish color, and the bumper was at least 2 shades different in color from the metal hood. I tried to capture it on camera but it just kept mating the colors for some reason. I know it is common but seems like it's only the weaker brands that have issues with this.
But yeah, I'd take a run at a g70 if they end up taking this one back.

I spend a little time on the G70 forums. I haven't seen any complaints of paint, yet. Though most of the members don't own the cars yet, those that do seem to be happy with them.

The Stinger's paint is warrantied for 36 months. Their obligation is to repair defects. If they repaint it and you aren't happy with it I don't think they will care. They'll say "oh well, we did what's required" and wash their hands with it.

 

[Revvdmedia]

I don't see any new threads. Where did you post it?

In the Exterior thread I think. Probably a bit buried by now.

 

[Kamauxx]

In the Exterior thread I think. Probably a bit buried by now.

Oh I thought yoy meant something new. I'll search for it.

 

[DiabloStinger]

@Kamauxx I've never seen a flawless aftermarket paintjob though...

 

[TwiceStung]

Hello All, for what it is worth, my 2017 Sportage and 2003 Tundra have these exact same type of spots in the same areas. Oh, the Stinger does also and lots of them. Not concerned at this point.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Hello, @TwiceStung. Interesting introduction. Is your Stinger a MY18?

 

[TwiceStung]

Hello, @TwiceStung. Interesting introduction. Is your Stinger a MY18?

Yes it is. Mfg date 01/18. Sold my base to Carvana and got another ‘18 but the Premium. Just posted an interesting note in the TSB section as well if you’d like to check it out.

 

[ralph]

I like how the last 2 pages was not really relevant to the topic lol. I found a few on my doors too. Now I have a fun case that i actually messed up my paint while removing the front badge because i heated it up too much. was planning to bring it for a repair but then i also saw some bubbles on the doors. What are the chances I find an issue on the hood too so they dont make me pay to touch up the tiny area where paint was removed? lol. total newbie here

 

[DiabloStinger]

Here is a relevant post.. more paint fun. Car gets dropped off tomorrow.
This is new.. under drivers headlight.

 

[Ucinn]

The ol' headlight problem. My yellow one had this under both headlights. The Ceramic Silver so far is good to go.