I agree.........I am calm tell that to that Hoja guy...whatever his name is....Everyone needs to calm down. Another post with personal attacks or profanity gets the thread locked.
I have been looking at both, but again very similar results.Don't just look at dyno charts, look at 1/4 mile times. ECU tunes are faster mod for mod. Lap3 pro also getting some good times.
Dude seriously please chill out everyone is entitled to their opinion my experiences I had were not yours so just deal with it it’s America and I can express myself.... and it’s a forum for people to state their opinions you don’t have to curse , I never once curse at you or anyone else so just learn how to agree to disagree .....just because you like something and you had a good experience does not mean everyone else did. That’s what reviews are for and discussions , this what created vendor to step up their game and make better products and better customer service.Apologies to all if this derailed the thread. That was not my intention.
I think if looking at all of my past messages it is clear I do not go around antagonizing and trolling people or companies contributing to the stinger community. In this rare example all I was doing is calling someone out for spreading false information. If mods look at Angel's past posts I think you will see a clear pattern.
Sir as much I want to disagree with you I really do.. lol .... your statement hold true for the moment ... that’s why I been just holding up to my JB4 and I really don’t seem the advantage to an ecu tune at the moment to fully justify all that extra money .... and like Terry said you can resell the jb4 or keep for data logging ....I really want an ecu tune but the data says otherwise .... seems like the jb4 is right there on performance with the tune and any other piggyback out let right now ....I have been looking at both, but again very similar results.
Terry ran a 12.4 in stock form with only the JB4 and dropped to 12.3@117 just adding intakes. His latest dyno got 462whp & 531wtq on pump gas only adding WMI. That would easily drop another 0.2-0.3secs. If he went catless like Tork or lap3s car that Stinger would definitely be over 500whp and would be in 11s too. With WMI & the extra advantage of “boost by gear” he’d most likely be the fastest Stinger in the USA.
Again I don’t disagree ECU tunes usually outperform piggybacks, but according to dynos & 1/4m times all chips/tunes seem to get very similar results on our Stingers.
Since ECU tunes don’t show more performance from our Stingers(yet) I was looking for any other advantages they might have over piggybacks. I hate to say it but unless someone can clarify, it simply looks like the top chips have more advantages over tunes.
I mean, if ECU tunes were trapping 120mph and JB4 was still trapping 117mph then it would be warranted to get the tune. But, there's like a 2hp difference between anything out right now but people are defending these companies as if you're missing out on 100hp if you don't go with them. Sure Tork is fastest in the 1/4 mile but that car also had full bolt ons and straight pipes which would be impossible in a daily driver.Sir as much I want to disagree with you I really do.. lol .... your statement hold true for the moment ... that’s why I been just holding up to my JB4 and I really don’t seem the advantage to an ecu tune at the moment to fully justify all that extra money .... and like Terry you can resell the jb4 or keep for data logging ....I really want an ecu tune but the data says otherwise .... seems like the jb4 is right there on performance with the tune and any other piggyback our let right now ....
I agree with you 100 percent .... some people get all upset because one expresses their opinion, Tork has the fastest time only because their car had the most mods and they jump the ship first .... I am sure preserrtech can reach 11 but they have not invested the time to do so and get a car will full bolt ons and tune it. ...everything seems to close on performance to clearly justify for the extra 700 dollars or more if you buy a spare ecu to tune ....I would love to see a jb4 full bolt ons with meth in a 1/4 I am confident that they could do high 11.... I am just patiently waiting with my jb4 and I know for a fact I want to get an ecu tune once there is more data and development ....I mean, if ECU tunes were trapping 120mph and JB4 was still trapping 117mph then it would be warranted to get the tune. But, there's like a 2hp difference between anything out right now but people are defending these companies as if you're missing out on 100hp if you don't go with them. Sure Tork is fastest in the 1/4 mile but that car also had full bolt ons and straight pipes which would be impossible in a daily driver.
I agree with you 100 percent .... some people get all upset because one expresses their opinion, Tork has the fastest time only because their car had the most mods and they jump the ship first .... I am sure preserrtech can reach 11 but they have not invested the time to do so and get a car will full bolt ons and tune it. ...everything seems to close on performance to clearly justify for the extra 700 dollars or more if you buy a spare ecu to tune ....I would love to see a jb4 full bolt ons with meth in a 1/4 I am confident that they could do high 11.... I am just patiently waiting with my jb4 and I know for a fact I want to get an ecu tune once there is more data and development ....
HAHAHHAHA LOL....I am TUNED !!!Stay tuned!!
The Tork tune is double the price of jb4. Not sure where you're getting your numbers fromThe top 1/4 mile times are held by lap3 x3, tork tune x2 and one Jb4. Terry ran a 12.4 on his stock RWD with jb4 i ran 12.4 on my stock tork tuned AWD (have a catback with not straight through mufflers so 10 hp maybe). AWDs are typically .2 slower.
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Plus the tork tune is cheaper than the boxes. I do see the appeal of flexability to remove the box or run hotter maps with race gas or ethanol. I do data logging with my $10 obd adapter and $5 torque app. So i am in for $910 can data log and beat any box on 92 octane.
Just got a tune update and will have. New 0-60 times this weekend. Maybe 1/4 if i can get to mexico.
0-60 is looking like it should be 4.0, 4.1s on dragy.
My bad, i was thinking lap3 pro which is $1200. For the $ jb4 ain't bad.The Tork tune is double the price of jb4. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from
I actually got my JB4 for $400 on a group buy...Tork tune is actually 2 1/2 times the price..Terry made group buys something no one else has done...thts not counting 1000 bucks if you get the spare ecu....hard to beat the the JB4....The top 1/4 mile times are held by lap3 x3, tork tune x2 and one Jb4. Terry ran a 12.4 on his stock RWD with jb4 i ran 12.4 on my stock tork tuned AWD (have a catback with not straight through mufflers so 10 hp maybe). AWDs are typically .2 slower.
1/4 Mile Thread
Plus the tork tune is cheaper than the boxes. I do see the appeal of flexability to remove the box or run hotter maps with race gas or ethanol. I do data logging with my $10 obd adapter and $5 torque app. So i am in for $910 can data log and beat any box on 92 octane.
Just got a tune update and will have. New 0-60 times this weekend. Maybe 1/4 if i can get to mexico.
0-60 is looking like it should be 4.0, 4.1s on dragy.
I actually got my JB4 for $400 on a group buy...Tork tune is actually 2 1/2 times the price..Terry made group buys something no one else has done...thts not counting 1000 bucks if you get the spare ecu....hard to beat the the JB4....
And 6 times more than pressuretech tune!Ten of us got our JB4s for $220 as part of the p beta!
Torks tune is 4 times as expensive as my JB4, lmao.
Ok, here is the mic drop moment ending the debate.
Just ran a 3.89 0-60 and a 12.08 1/4 mile. Ran 12.02s twice but the slope was .09 too much to be valid. My "strip" had a significant turn in it and car was fully weighted with spare tire etc. So 11 second AWD is here.
Next fastest AWD stinger (and was the second fastest Stinger all up) ran a 12.13 with Lap3 pro , intake, fmic and DPs with both Cats removed.
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