360 Camera

[Kia Stinger]

You are also missing the button that turns it on. It should be in between the seat heater controls. My guess it's at best a 50/50 shot of the wiring being there. They obviously have to switch the line over to make the American version of the car. There are a ton of differences. If they are switching the line over anyway it is not hard for them to omit the camera wires. It all depends if the harness for the power mirror includes the wires for the cameras or not. My guess is not..

The Stinger without surround view camera doesn't even have a dummy button there? Otherwise, I didn't even think of that. I was figuring the additional software/aftermarket system would have you select on or off through the navigation screen...

My guess is that the surround view processing is also done by a separate hardware module, not software inside the Kia head unit, since it's probably fairly CPU/GPU intensive to bend the fisheye views into straightened, merged images.

I'm still really interested in the possibility of adding one of these aftermarket solutions (which I linked to earlier in this thread). Aside from drilling a hole in the mirror bottom, the rest should be no more challenging than running stereo or dashcam wires, and the module is supposedly plug-and-play with the RCA inputs on the factory head unit. I think the 360/SVM module simply preempts the regular display when video is initiated, and my guess is that's the same thing the OEM SVM is doing (either activating upon reverse, or manually with the button). The Rear View Safety company even markets directly for the Kia Sorento, so they might be able to make a quick entrance into the Stinger aftermarket.

I think it could be a very popular custom option - ESPECIALLY if the 2019 Stinger doesn't have it...

 

[ralzod]

I think it could be a very popular custom option - ESPECIALLY if the 2019 Stinger doesn't have it...

I was initially concerned that the rumored/theoretical inclusion on the 2019 model might make the aftermarket less willing to jump through any hoops to offer a solution, but then I realized that KMA would probably only make SVM available on the highest trim(s) anyway, so there'd still be a market for everyone else (not just the '18 buyers)

 

[Chris]

The Stinger without surround view camera doesn't even have a dummy button there? Otherwise, I didn't even think of that. I was figuring the additional software/aftermarket system would have you select on or off through the navigation screen.

Nope the Canadian ones have I think 4 buttons between the seat heater controls. The Americans got a totally different bezel with only 2 buttons. Not even a blank spot to put a button.

 

[Kia Stinger]

I was initially concerned that the rumored/theoretical inclusion on the 2019 model might make the aftermarket less willing to jump through any hoops to offer a solution, but then I realized that KMA would probably only make SVM available on the highest trim(s) anyway, so there'd still be a market for everyone else (not just the '18 buyers)

Very, very true. So there will be a market either way...

 

[tofu]

Nope the Canadian ones have I think 4 buttons between the seat heater controls. The Americans got a totally different bezel with only 2 buttons. Not even a blank spot to put a button.

3: heated steering wheel, surround view camera, and ISG off.

 

[AnyVare]

Just wanted to say this is a great and informative thread and love the owner support and pics to help us poor US buyers out.

I'll also say that the rear view and C-pillars in this car make having 360 view a MUST have for backing up.

 

[BlackGhost]

For those that do have the 360 cam, purely out of curiosity, does the colour of the car icon match your actual car??

Mine shows as white and I have the SWP. Be a cool touch if they matched across the colour range!

 

[Clearly Canadian]

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For those that do have the 360 cam, purely out of curiosity, does the colour of the car icon match your actual car??

Mine shows as white and I have the Snow White Pearl. Be a cool touch if they matched across the colour range!

The image for mine is white but my car is grey.

 

[Never thought]

Just wanted to say this is a great and informative thread and love the owner support and pics to help us poor US buyers out.

I'll also say that the rear view and C-pillars in this car make having 360 view a MUST have for backing up.

I actually disagree. I am disappointed there is no SVM but the backup camera on the Stinger is amazing. It has to be HD or near HD quality and the front and rear parking sensors help a ton. I’ve notice the front sensors even pick up high curbs. But, if there is an after market SVM option, I’d be very interested.

 

[CDv6]

But, if there is an after market SVM option, I’d be very interested.

Brand Motion and Rear View Safety both have interesting-looking solutions. There's another company lurking out there, but a google search on them raises concern.

 

[Ozstung]

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For those that do have the 360 cam, purely out of curiosity, does the colour of the car icon match your actual car??

Mine shows as white and I have the Snow White Pearl. Be a cool touch if they matched across the colour range!

No the car shown is always white.

 

[Killa200]

So I've been looking through the service manual for this options, and It looks like this would be a fairly complex retrofit to the US model cars. I've not even began to look at the harness in the car to see how much of the required bits are there, but we are definitely missing the module for the unit, I know the front bumper harness doesn't have the required wiring or connector for the front camera, and Head Unit has a different wiring route for the camera system (cameras are processed by the surround module and re-encoded up to the head unit module, instead of the rear view camera going directly to the head unit module).

So at minimum we are looking at: Surround View Module, Surround View Console Switch Assembly, Head unit module rewire, Front upper grill insert, front camera, correct bumper harness, Left and Right side mirror bodies and cameras.

Possibly also looking at: Additional body harnesses or a complete replacement of some harnesses, replacement of rear camera if it varies for the surround view system.

::EDIT:: For sure know the rear camera has to be replaced as well. The camera connector pinouts show that the RVM and SVM systems use a different wiring scheme and signal system for the rear camera, depending on which system you have installed. May also mean the trunk harness would have to be modified as well.

 

[Stinger73]

So I've been looking through the service manual for this options, and It looks like this would be a fairly complex retrofit to the US model cars. I've not even began to look at the harness in the car to see how much of the required bits are there, but we are definitely missing the module for the unit, I know the front bumper harness doesn't have the required wiring or connector for the front camera, and Head Unit has a different wiring route for the camera system (cameras are processed by the surround module and re-encoded up to the head unit module, instead of the rear view camera going directly to the head unit module).

So at minimum we are looking at: Surround View Module, Surround View Console Switch Assembly, Head unit module rewire, Front upper grill insert, front camera, correct bumper harness, Left and Right side mirror bodies and cameras.

Possibly also looking at: Additional body harnesses or a complete replacement of some harnesses, replacement of rear camera if it varies for the surround view system.

So basically if someone hasn't bought one in the US yet and wants a 360 camera they should either wait for the MY2019 or get a G70... More than likely these parts will be expensive from KIA and IMHO would be the best option for parts. Let alone the labor costs will be high too, unless you do it yourself.

I would be surprised any after market manufacturer would bother. Any searches I have done have resulted in mostly back up cameras for cars. I did see one for side view and then a different website for a front view camera. Yet it was all piecemeal and not a cohesive 360 system.

IMHO it doesn't seem logical or economical for a company to make a specific parts to work with existing wiring on the Stinger, as there wouldn't be much demand to justify it. Especially if the company is global like most and only the US doesn't have the option. Plus it would more than likely be the buyers who would opt for it versus the leasers and KIA public sales figures only shows volume not which is lease vs sales.

I'm sure a pole can be started on here to see how many would do so if an after market existed or purchasing parts/labor from KIA but the true costs would have to be included to get fair results.

 

[Killa200]

I'll know more on the areas involved in the SVM system once I get the console dismantled for the wireless charge module swap, but my bet is a majority of the harness isn't present as well for any of the SVM system. That would make this extremely uneconomical to install, as there is quite a bit of wiring involved in this system.

 

[Ozstung]

Excuse my ignorance but can you U.S. folk pop across the border and a buy fully loaded Canadian specked vehicle? Is that an option or does that void warranty etc?

 

[Clearly Canadian]

Excuse my ignorance but can you U.S. folk pop across the border and a buy fully loaded Canadian specked vehicle? Is that an option or does that void warranty etc?

My understanding based on other threads is that it is ok to do that but all warranty work must be done in the car’s country of origin. Appears that one forum member has done it so far.

 

[netmag]

My understanding based on other threads is that it is ok to do that but all warranty work must be done in the car’s country of origin. Appears that one forum member has done it so far.

 

[Kia Stinger]

You don't say?

 

[netmag]

Nope! My phone and main pc are set to stay logged in. I'm guessing my phone got mashed in a pocket and posted a blank reply! It was kind of cool getting alerts, but I might just have to stay logged out on the phone.