3.3TT turbo lag

[Wilzer]

Thanks everyone, so what did I learn, 1st, should have used "throttle lag" instead of "turbo lag" as description 2nd I will have to adjust my throttle behavior for a turbo vs naturally aspirated motor.

My previous ride was a c6 Corvette and when turning into traffic from stop, had to be careful not to advance too much and fishtail. Love the power of the Stinger, it drives your stomach up against your spine on acceleration, like a vette but much more controlled, more nimble, less lumbering Also, leans into curves without feeling that the rear is going to break away.

Another amusing thing about the Vette, is when you put it in sport, not much change in behavior, but with the Stinger, wow, it is SPORT.

SO TODAY I DROVE with right shoe off and having better feel of the accelerator helped tremendously. ECO mode is a great idea, especially with switching to manual with paddles, start from stop in 1 and then as you accelerate, found out you can switch back to automatic by clicking the shift back; Can downshift again as the wheel returns to normal position and you get control. ECO is the way to go in city traffic where it is stop and start with very little room. Funny, mode will be retained in ECO or Comfort for next drive, but not in Smart, Sport or Configure.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Configure

Custom.

And you're right, Eco is the best daily driving mode. That's why I set engine/trans in Eco, and everything else set to Sport, in Custom; which is ninety percent of what I use.

When the roads get slickery/icy, I use Smart: supposedly it Learns your driving style over time, and I figure that could only be a good thing when going "steady and slow" in the winter: incidentally, Eco is default in Smart too; and only shifts to Comfort when you accelerate "spiritedly" (you can even get Smart to show Sport if you floor it).

 

[Wilzer]

Just checking to see if you were paying attention

 

[washguy]

Wilzer I know what you are feeling/saying about the throttle lag go here BMS Pedal Tuner BETA - Kia Stinger dot com
this is Sal's store and this is his site...so the pedal tuner will cure what you are feeling....for further info go to Burger Motor Sports and read about the pedal tuner.....there is no turbo lag in my stinger what so ever and if you think you have lag after you get a pedal tuner strap on a JB4 piggyback tuner
Wash

 

[RLittle]

I dont feel any turbo lag at all ...............it was one of my concerns prior to purchase , power is virtually instant in my car with AWD

i agree. it is every bit as responsive as my V8.

 

[Doel]

i agree. it is every bit as responsive as my V8.

You can feel the turbo lag at a lower RPM. It isn't much at all though, all turbo cars have at least a little lag.

 

[ScottM]

Wilzer I know what you are feeling/saying about the throttle lag go here BMS Pedal Tuner BETA - Kia Stinger dot com
this is Sal's store and this is his site...so the pedal tuner will cure what you are feeling....for further info go to Burger Motor Sports and read about the pedal tuner.....there is no turbo lag in my stinger what so ever and if you think you have lag after you get a pedal tuner strap on a JB4 piggyback tuner
Wash

@Wilzer ...I actually got the XLR for my car, but this is spot on. Pedal tuner, XLR... the throttle response is the answer to your "issue".

 

[Fboost]

I'm not saying op is lying but I completely disagree.
First for reference I have Aus rwd stinger gt.
Had turbo cars for last 20yrs the stinger is by far the most responsive I have had. It's a 3.3ltr V6 with tiny little turbos mounted straight to the heads! As for throttle response I find comfort to be very lazy and require a large amount of throttle to get going but sport is the opposite, when doing say 80kms if I even slightly touch the throttle car jolts forward I would actually like a setting between the two. On a side note I wonder if our throttle mapping in Aus is different as we are tuned for 98ron
Anyone know?

 

[Adamdan]

My 240sx with a rb25 and a gt35r single turbo that had turbo lag. The stinger has very very low turbo lag.

 

[Marc Collins]

Traditional turbo lag is almost non-existent........but, we all know there is throttle-mapping issues and differences depending on drive mode. Can we assume the OP was not malicious and was just experiencing the throttle mapping part of the equation?? No need to keep pounding on this.

 

[CaliSting]

There are some wonky throttle mapping issues in this car for sure truly comes out in Autocross. ECU is trimming throttle in many cases even with all nannies turned off.

 

[Wilzer]

The descriptions of the pedal tuner on the links, is difficult to understand, I get hung up in the statement "...attaches to your gas pedal allowing you to remap and improve throttle response...." Does it physically fit on the gas pedal, or connect to data port, and can someone explain in "easy steps for little feet" how you use it? I see + and - buttons and a 3rd that can't figure out. Do you attach and press + to go faster at pedal position or - for slower?

 

[washguy]

Wilzer the install less than 10 mins...its electronic they even show you in a you tube on this link...sinve everything is fly by wire...the throttle is fly by wire too...so the ecu controls throttle mapping (response) NEW! BMS Pedal Tuner - BurgerTuning.com if you want a snappy no lag pedal this is what you need....and you can adjust it to suit your moods....install is eaier than putting gas in your car....can you chew gum and walk at the same time? If the answer is yes...no problem Wash

install it plugs into back of gas pedal (1bolt)

 

[ScottM]

@Wilzer... Seems similar to the XLR, It would fit between the throttle cable and the physical pedal (Y connection). So you'd need to physically remove the throttle pedal to install. Then you'd use the handheld part to set the throttle response for when you press on the pedal.

My two cents of info...

 

[Fboost]

I had one of these in my stagea few years ago, made by pivot and idea, plugs into plug that goes to throttle pedal you can then adjust throttle pedal response.
For example the stagea had a brake delay, for a short period after applying the brakes it would trim the throttle, this was most evident if you tried to gun it out of a corner after having applied the brakes, car would feel laggy and unresponsive.
The module made a huge difference.
I'm not sure if our stingers have something like that delay as I'm still running my car in but it would probably smooth out the throttle I think.

 

[Wilzer]

OK, I'm 6'4" not too heavy but would need a midget (oops, small person ) to unplug and plug the device. So after that, do you + & - while you drive or just press full down several times like in video? And what happens when you + & - I realize I could just buy one and figure it out after a while, but I have the experts here, so....

AND after that do you have to leave the device plugged in or do you remove and reconnect to original state.

 

[DoctorStiches]

I have not had any lag problems but my turbo car from my past was an eagle talon with a big 16g and some work done. And that thing didnt scream until 4500
All you guys hitting lag I have 1 question!!!!
Are you hitting the drop down button on the floor or just giving it some gas?
(ROLLING LAG)
That is all. Gear /rpm lead to lag so cruising in 8th in comfort and it'll just hang out and whistle from 2000 to 3000 rpm then get up and walk

 

[laynevans]

I definitely feel like it has terrible lag off the line. But not sure if it's turbo lag or the computers getting in the way. A half decent 3.3 litre even without turbos should be able to spin the wheels off the line so I suspect its the computers stopping the fun. I'm considering a pedal box/throttle controller. That's how I found this thread actually.
My other car is an old fashioned V8 that runs very similar qtr mile times to the stinger but I'd be a car length or 2 in front of the stinger but then the stinger would catch up.
Did see someone comment to progressively apply the throttle rather than just mash it down. Might have to try that.
Also, launch control is barely any different I find.
I really wonder whether some cars are not quite the same as others. Anyone in Perth, Australia want to compare because I swear mine is a slug off the line but maybe some others are not.

 

[MisterMac]

I have not had any lag problems but my turbo car from my past was an eagle talon with a big 16g and some work done. And that thing didnt scream until 4500
All you guys hitting lag I have 1 question!!!!
Are you hitting the drop down button on the floor or just giving it some gas?
(ROLLING LAG)
That is all. Gear /rpm lead to lag so cruising in 8th in comfort and it'll just hang out and whistle from 2000 to 3000 rpm then get up and walk

I believe you hit the nail on the head. With this car, if you floor the pedal, you will hit the kick down switch - causing a significant "lag" before you move. A quarter to half application of the accelerator pedal and there is no "lag."

 

[laynevans]

11pm here...too late to go for a test drive, even though I want to. haha. Gonna play tomorrow! Racing on Friday but circuit track so lag isn't an issue there, only off the line.