Dennis Macho
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NO I did not
Launch control, what a JOKE..
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MerlintheMad
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I don't like the sound of launch control anyway. "Extreme stress" is how the manual describes what the drivetrain goes through during launch. And you have to drive at normal speed to cool down the transmission fluid. And, with all that, you only have a four second window of opportunity in launch mode to release the brake and "launch" the car; if you hold the brake and accelerator down together longer than four seconds then launch control disengages.
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Then you were not "in" launch control mode, according to these experts. I'm all ears (or "eyes" to be literal about this medium of exchange of ideas
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NOPE:::::::: OP did not hear a DING, I must have did something wrong. Did not hold traction control for 3 seconds. Yes must be driver error. Thanks for all the responses. Again I will be taking it to the track to race my Nephews Q50 red sport , 400 hp twin turbo... Of course I want an advantage off the line. Not here to destroy the Stinger, Just wanted to feel what a spooled up Stinger feels like off the line..
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Believe me when I say this LC isn't putting any stress on anything in this car. It is that bad.
Yes, holding down the brake while pushing the accelerator trying to get it above 2000 rpms. I launch my Mustang at 3000 RPMs brake torquing it and it's the perfect rpm to launch it at. no wheel spin and great take off... Just trying to get this above 2000 to see if it's a nanny limiting the take off or if it's just too low and RPM for such a shitty 60. This thing should be quicker in the 60 than my Mustang, but it's not.
Yes, holding down the brake while pushing the accelerator trying to get it above 2000 rpms. I launch my Mustang at 3000 RPMs brake torquing it and it's the perfect rpm to launch it at. no wheel spin and great take off... Just trying to get this above 2000 to see if it's a nanny limiting the take off or if it's just too low and RPM for such a shitty 60. This thing should be quicker in the 60 than my Mustang, but it's not.
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Follow the steps in the manual, or either of the videos I posted, and report back. I think you'll be happy.. 
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The baby is sitting at home in the polebarn. Washed it yesterday and had a garage door opener installed cause now I have a need for opening that door more often. I saw the VID and never saw that READY message light up on my car.. I do appreciate all the responses..Follow the steps in the manual, or either of the videos I posted, and report back. I think you'll be happy..
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I'd guess the most common oversight is that you don't just press the ESC off button, but you hold it for >3s until it dings the second time.
My GF is picking up a comparable Mercedes (CLS400) tomorrow, and she has no clue how many cool features it has - including launch control. Can't wait to educamate her..
My GF is picking up a comparable Mercedes (CLS400) tomorrow, and she has no clue how many cool features it has - including launch control. Can't wait to educamate her..
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If you have the AWD..I don't think you will be all that impressed.. you may be like me and say what? That's it? I would really like to try out a RWD and see if there is a difference.
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Yes sir.
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Does it snap your head back, turn your stomach upside down, or make you feel light headed?
You may have a higher tolerance to G forces. My rollercoaster loving wife and kids don't really get much thrill out of it either but it makes me feel like I'm bungee jumping. Maybe I'm just a big ole biotch.
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In Jersey my car come up here in the cold weather with 18" all seasons. Yea it will be 94* on Saturday
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Well it's definitely going to be different for you. Your tires won't hook as well as the PS4.
And unfortunately the car doesn't allow us to do burnouts to heat up the tires.
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Did you happen to watch the videos I linked to?
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I think ot has been stated many times, the awd makes the car heavier and is was not designed with dig racing in mind. It was designed to perform well in handling, making it more of a safety feature really. It does send up to 80% of power to the rear wheels using LC, however with the added weight, it may not perform as some people exepected. I myself have a rwd gt1 and the LC works great, after pairing with thw ark exhaust, k&n intakes and jb4 on map1, the damn thing makes me nauseous after using it. Damn i love it hahahaha
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First, I have AWD and have never used the LC. But I have some "impressions" of how AWD should be better than RWD at launching in a properly operating vehicle designed for optimal grip.
First, Traction Control. It's brake based. Feel a wheel spinning, apply some brake to slow it down and allow another wheel to apply the torque to the street. A mechanical LSD would eliminate a lot of the use of the brakes. But I assume wouldn't remove their use as you could easily have both wheels spinning (e.g. ice) and the brakes would slow things down trying to allow some grip.
Next is the front/rear torque split that comes through a center differential. From what I'm hearing, the Stinger is capable of putting as much as 80% of it's power to the rear wheels. Now here's the fun part. Does it move power back towards the front if the rears are spinning? This I don't know. But in a properly operating vehicle designed for optimal grip (in my odd little mind), it should and would. This is where the AWD should be able to shine.
If one's using just the rear wheels to supply power, they're going to start spinning at some point. If the power is able to be split with some up front then the rears can be at max grip, doing all they can while the fronts are doing some work themselves, if not at their max grip. That (again, in my odd little mind) translates to more power to the four contact patches where the tires are on the surface, creating acceleration.
What's it really like with the Stinger? I dunno. But I certainly believe that all of this can be tuned manually and electronically. For instance, what happens when you put more rubber on the rear wheels, meaning more grip (wider wheels and tires)? The brakes are needed less. But what about an intake, exhaust, intercooler, ECU tune car? It'll roast tires and the brakes will burn up if they can't account for the difference.
All very interesting and I'm excited to hear how it all actually works - and adapts - for the AWD Stinger GT.
First, Traction Control. It's brake based. Feel a wheel spinning, apply some brake to slow it down and allow another wheel to apply the torque to the street. A mechanical LSD would eliminate a lot of the use of the brakes. But I assume wouldn't remove their use as you could easily have both wheels spinning (e.g. ice) and the brakes would slow things down trying to allow some grip.
Next is the front/rear torque split that comes through a center differential. From what I'm hearing, the Stinger is capable of putting as much as 80% of it's power to the rear wheels. Now here's the fun part. Does it move power back towards the front if the rears are spinning? This I don't know. But in a properly operating vehicle designed for optimal grip (in my odd little mind), it should and would. This is where the AWD should be able to shine.
If one's using just the rear wheels to supply power, they're going to start spinning at some point. If the power is able to be split with some up front then the rears can be at max grip, doing all they can while the fronts are doing some work themselves, if not at their max grip. That (again, in my odd little mind) translates to more power to the four contact patches where the tires are on the surface, creating acceleration.
What's it really like with the Stinger? I dunno. But I certainly believe that all of this can be tuned manually and electronically. For instance, what happens when you put more rubber on the rear wheels, meaning more grip (wider wheels and tires)? The brakes are needed less. But what about an intake, exhaust, intercooler, ECU tune car? It'll roast tires and the brakes will burn up if they can't account for the difference.
All very interesting and I'm excited to hear how it all actually works - and adapts - for the AWD Stinger GT.
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@Kazz: all very logical. And the 19" wheels are half an inch wider in the rear than the front.
But from what I've read, the factory 0-60 numbers are RWD, not AWD. The AWD gets smoked by RWD using LC. The driver has zero input. It's all car.
Could a driver beat the LC, even in an AWD? This car accelerates very fast once rolling, so, push smooth and only down fast once the car hits c. 20 mph, then give it all it's got. I've done this a few times. Enough to know that I have to brace myself for the Gs or else my brain does a flip flop.
But from what I've read, the factory 0-60 numbers are RWD, not AWD. The AWD gets smoked by RWD using LC. The driver has zero input. It's all car.
Could a driver beat the LC, even in an AWD? This car accelerates very fast once rolling, so, push smooth and only down fast once the car hits c. 20 mph, then give it all it's got. I've done this a few times. Enough to know that I have to brace myself for the Gs or else my brain does a flip flop.
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I don't think anybody would argue that this car can break traction on two wheels. Let's say the LC has to adjust such that 20% is "wasted" on initial launch. That 20% can almost certainly be used by the front wheels and, despite the additional weight (it's not THAT much), it will make a difference.
Prior owners of AWD sports cars can just smile and nod. I know first-hand that even tiny differences in the initial launch makes a world of difference - it's why racers try to carry as much speed as possible thru corners. That tiny difference is carried all the way to the next corner.
Prior owners of AWD sports cars can just smile and nod. I know first-hand that even tiny differences in the initial launch makes a world of difference - it's why racers try to carry as much speed as possible thru corners. That tiny difference is carried all the way to the next corner.
I guarantee you that, same power, same tires, same road, the AWD will get off the line faster. The question is at what speed the RWD catches up.@Kazz: all very logical. And the 19" wheels are half an inch wider in the rear than the front.
But from what I've read, the factory 0-60 numbers are RWD, not AWD. The AWD gets smoked by RWD using LC. The driver has zero input. It's all car.
Could a driver beat the LC, even in an AWD? This car accelerates very fast once rolling, so, push smooth and only down fast once the car hits c. 20 mph, then give it all it's got. I've done this a few times. Enough to know that I have to brace myself for the Gs or else my brain does a flip flop.
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