LAP3 ECU and TCU Review

[44pirate]

Not many cars have the SXTH tune as LAP3, so it is hard to say if they don't preform as good. But even if it doesn't preform as good, I think (well for me at least) the convenience factor of being able to switch the maps and having the EK1PRO screen to monitor and data log etc is worth the it. I believe the total cost is less than LAP3 including the EK1PRO screen.

It is also beneficial to get map updates, or for turbo upgrade, having tuners do their own tunes etc.

Why are you on this thread if you don't even have Lap3 or have used it.

 

[STINGER]

Why are you on this thread if you don't even have Lap3 or have used it.

Anything wrong with what I said? I am just stating my opinion.

 

[44pirate]

Anything wrong with what I said? I am just stating my opinion.

How can you compare sxth with Lap3. First of all Lap3 ECU tune which ever level of tune the ECU is highly adaptive which means you do not have to switch between maps because of the fuel your using. The Lap3 ECU adapts accordingly. Yes if you are cheap and run cheap fuel you will have issues with any tune.

The thing I don't get is there are 100's of threads with help me with my tune for JB4, Lozic and Sxth. Yet hardly any for Lap3, most people that have never or tried Lap3 complain its too much money. So hopefully you don't go through to many revisions to get your Sxth tune to work.

I understand it's your opinion. We all have one. Im just stating if you have never had or used a Lap3 tune why are you on this thread?

 

[Corleone1]

I have Lap3 2.5 and are very happy with it. Good dynamic adaption for wheather, temp, fuel and also a stable fuel pressure. It also makes more power with less boost as the ignition is very different. Also cam adjusting is. More safe!

I will now update to 2.5+ that have a more linear boost and also (told by themself) a lot wider fuel trim maps.

Thats very good for us here in Sweden as we have E85 everywhere. My plan is to run 100% E85 with CPI, to mix fuel when filling up is boaring over time.

Of course costs is an issue for most people but in our cars lifetime the costs isnt so high to go with a full tuned ECU as its always better.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Not many cars have the SXTH tune as LAP3, so it is hard to say if they don't preform as good. But even if it doesn't preform as good, I think (well for me at least) the convenience factor of being able to switch the maps and having the EK1PRO screen to monitor and data log etc is worth the it. I believe the total cost is less than LAP3 including the EK1PRO screen.

It is also beneficial to get map updates, or for turbo upgrade, having tuners do their own tunes etc.

LAP3 2.5 tunes offer maximum performance while still maintaining reliability. Switchable modes is all nice and fancy but I have yet to see SXTH push out fast cars as consistently as LAP3.

Well Considering The 3 fastest cars on the top 20 list are from Tork, Lap3, and Sixth (In that order) They can definitely punch hard. Id be willing to bet that @AWDGT2 (the only sixth car on here that I am aware of) could actually take that #1 spot away from tork with what he is cooking up if he wanted to, and with @Russell Buzz Buzz Parting out his car because he is moving overseas, I don't think he is gonna be putting any more times on the board any time soon, if ever again.

No idea if Tork is planning to go faster or what the deal is there, but im not gonna @ him cuz it always turns into an argument.

To answer about the amount of fast sixth cars, well they have only had stinger tunes available for what? less than a year? and they don't even really advertise it, they focus way more on the N cars.

 

[44pirate]

Well Considering The 3 fastest cars on the top 20 list are from Tork, Lap3, and Sixth (In that order) They can definitely punch hard. Id be willing to bet that @AWDGT2 (the only sixth car on here that I am aware of) could actually take that #1 spot away from tork with what he is cooking up if he wanted to, and with @Russell Buzz Buzz Parting out his car because he is moving overseas, I don't think he is gonna be putting any more times on the board any time soon, if ever again.

No idea if Tork is planning to go faster or what the deal is there, but im not gonna @ him cuz it always turns into an argument.

To answer about the amount of fast sixth cars, well they have only had stinger tunes available for what? less than a year? and they don't even really advertise it, they focus way more on the N cars.

What you don't know is Tork used nitros for that run and the car and motor has blown headgaskets. Of course you will be hard press to find that out. Again why are you on this thread?

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

What you don't know is Tork used nitros for that run and the car and motor has blown headgaskets. Of course you will be hard press to find that out. Again why are you on this thread?

I mean, I did know that, But a verified run is a verified run. I don't want to defend Tork but there is nothing stating that you cant use Nitrous. Considering he has posted videos of him driving the car, and pretty hard at that, It may not be as blown up as you think it is anymore. As for why I am here? well considering that was my first comment on this thread, I don't know where this "again" part came from, but because it can be informative to read up on what others are doing. This is a public forum not a private event at the mayors manor. Chill.

 

[Wolfpire]

Not many cars have the SXTH tune as LAP3, so it is hard to say if they don't preform as good. But even if it doesn't preform as good, I think (well for me at least) the convenience factor of being able to switch the maps and having the EK1PRO screen to monitor and data log etc is worth the it. I believe the total cost is less than LAP3 including the EK1PRO screen.

It is also beneficial to get map updates, or for turbo upgrade, having tuners do their own tunes etc.

Well Considering The 3 fastest cars on the top 20 list are from Tork, Lap3, and Sixth (In that order) They can definitely punch hard. Id be willing to bet that @AWDGT2 (the only sixth car on here that I am aware of) could actually take that #1 spot away from tork with what he is cooking up if he wanted to, and with @Russell Buzz Buzz Parting out his car because he is moving overseas, I don't think he is gonna be putting any more times on the board any time soon, if ever again.

No idea if Tork is planning to go faster or what the deal is there, but im not gonna @ him cuz it always turns into an argument.

To answer about the amount of fast sixth cars, well they have only had stinger tunes available for what? less than a year? and they don't even really advertise it, they focus way more on the N cars.

Map updates are only necessary if a tune is not running properly due to changes in mods, conditions, etc. With LAP3 you don't have to get any updates, you basically choose what tune you want based on how far you want to push the car and the ECU will adapt to a variety of mods and fuels on its own. Making the end-user experience smooth. Why do you think that owners of LAP3 tunes are always raving positive reviews of the tune?

If you take a look at the draggy leaderboard the large majority of the fastest cars in every meaningful category are LAP3 cars, hence why I said LAP3 2.5 tunes offer maximum performance while still maintaining reliability. Also, lots of people have ended up switching to LAP3 due to reliability concerns/ issues with other tuners when squeezing out the most that you can from the car.

Lastly just like @44pirate stated this is a LAP3 review thread, if you want to talk about other tuners go ahead all day on their " my car is boosting to the moon 28+ psi HELP!" threads.

 

[44pirate]

I mean, I did know that, But a verified run is a verified run. I don't want to defend Tork but there is nothing stating that you cant use Nitrous. Considering he has posted videos of him driving the car, and pretty hard at that, It may not be as blown up as you think it is anymore. As for why I am here? well considering that was my first comment on this thread, I don't know where this "again" part came from, but because it can be informative to read up on what others are doing. This is a public forum not a private event at the mayors manor. Chill.

So the thread says Lap3 Ecu and Tcu review. Doesn't say anything about all tunes and tcu's. To me that means that. There are plenty of threads say Jb4 limp mode help me, and Lozic has its own thread so why are we seeing tork and sxth in hear make your own threads. But its the same old crap the moderators control who can say what with prejudice.

 

[STINGER]

Well Considering The 3 fastest cars on the top 20 list are from Tork, Lap3, and Sixth (In that order) They can definitely punch hard. Id be willing to bet that @AWDGT2 (the only sixth car on here that I am aware of) could actually take that #1 spot away from tork with what he is cooking up if he wanted to, and with @Russell Buzz Buzz Parting out his car because he is moving overseas, I don't think he is gonna be putting any more times on the board any time soon, if ever again.

No idea if Tork is planning to go faster or what the deal is there, but im not gonna @ him cuz it always turns into an argument.

To answer about the amount of fast sixth cars, well they have only had stinger tunes available for what? less than a year? and they don't even really advertise it, they focus way more on the N cars.

Agree, its too early to make any assumptions about SXTH tune on the EK1Pro without knowing much about their tune. Only one car that we know of that has it and its the 2nd fastest already, but honestly thats not the point. Anybody just looking at the performance when looking at the SXTH EK1Pro is mistaken and doesn't realize how beneficial this will be for the platform, just like the COBB it will open the doors for other tuners to make their own tunes and sell it, basically even LAP3 can sell their tune using the EK1Pro, the EK1Pro will effectively be a tuning tool anybody can use. You wont need to send your ECU and have the ability to change tunes, this is a great step forward for the platform.

 

[StingertimeNC]

^^^ Yes, can’t wait for that! Let’s go SXTH. Looking forward to being able to try all the different tunes.

 

[ChaneRZ]

After so much googling, youtube vids, and forums search, I finally will go with ecu tune. Went with Lap3 1.5

Now the only waiting begins… 3-4 weeks eeeek

 

[Boogetsbizzy]

After so much googling, youtube vids, and forums search, I finally will go with ecu tune. Went with Lap3 1.5

Now the only waiting begins… 3-4 weeks eeeek

Boooo lap 3! Nah that’s exciting. I definitely want to get a ecu tune in the near future. I just read that lap3 is way more expensive than what it needs to be and 1.5 seems to be designed for WMI. I’ll likely go the lozic route when it’s time.

 

[JSting77]

It’s Turbo Season again friends! Been unable to get out there and get any runs in since August but did a quick two runs to test her out again Monday evening and seems like once I get my shifting rhythm back should be seeing low 11.0’s and break into 10 finally.

And the LAP3 stage 2.5 ecu, stage 2 TCU and their DevilsOwn Stage 4 Meth Kit are kicking ass and reliable as always.

Zero issues with the car since getting the tune other then when some jerk slid into me and i had to replace a panel last winter and adjust my meth due from the accident (Which was super easy and I did all of it myself and all I know about cars is what I learn working on my stinger mods- the LAP3 community is super helpful answering questions and helping out).

Thanks again for all the help David! LAP3 worth every penny and them some for the enjoyment I’ve had with this car and tune.

 

[Valkyriemedic]

Lap 3 2.5+ ECU and TCU on the way! Currently running JB4 with Fuel Wires / EWG / WMI on Map 7 and E35 fuel mix along with Tork Stage 1 TCU. Plan on keeping the JB4 for WMI and Logging as long as I don't run into any issues. I know I need to start by placing the JB4 on Map 0 and Turning on Bits 0 (disable fuel control), 5 (disable EWG) and 6 (Flash tune installed). For WMI I know I need to set Meth Trigger to 1 (enable in all Maps). Questions... 1) Will WMI behave the same as in Map 7 this way (Flow start / safety, etc)? 2) Should I leave all other Meth settings the same. I have just been running 50/50 Meth blend but will be going up to 80-85% with the Lap 3 (was going to with the JB4, just never did). If wondering..no issues with the JB4 (had to make some adjustments off default initially) and happy with it for the past 2-3 years. Just reading all the comments regarding the smoothness and power of the Lap 3, so going to see. I have seen the post where some have had to switch to Map 8 if using Lap3 flash with JB4 due to boost issues. Thanks for any input!

 

[StingertimeNC]

Interested in hearing about your results. I've been happy with JB4, Map 7 and the 50/50 WMI, but often wonder if the Lap 3 stage 2.5 would be worth it. Good luck. Unfortunately I'm not an expert in all of this. Darrin, @AWDGT2, has always been my go to guy for any JB4/WMI adjustments. Maybe hit him up. He's super knowledgeable on all this.

Thoughts...

I believe the JB4 will behave exactly the same as it shouldn't realize you have a new ECU tune.

If you don't have a catless downpipe then you shouldn't have any issues with overboost.

You should be able to fine tune your boost using map 6, i.e. add a lb here or there, if you are not peaking as high as you like.

Looking forward to you posting logs and your thoughts.

 

[Valkyriemedic]

Interested in hearing about your results. I've been happy with JB4, Map 7 and the 50/50 WMI, but often wonder if the Lap 3 stage 2.5 would be worth it. Good luck. Unfortunately I'm not an expert in all of this. Darrin, @AWDGT2, has always been my go to guy for any JB4/WMI adjustments. Maybe hit him up. He's super knowledgeable on all this.

Thoughts...

I believe the JB4 will behave exactly the same as it shouldn't realize you have a new ECU tune.

If you don't have a catless downpipe then you shouldn't have any issues with overboost.

You should be able to fine tune your boost using map 6, i.e. add a lb here or there, if you are not peaking as high as you like.

Looking forward to you posting logs and your thoughts.

Yeah, I've seen his post and help to others so I'll probably reach out to him. I do have Ark Secondary Downpipes and well as ARK Grip Exhaust. Most of the available FBO options are in use. I'll post an update / review after switch over. Thanks!

 

[Realist_Sting3r]

I currently have lap3 ecu stage 1.5 with meth using jb4 as the controller and its running great. Now if i upgrade to the 2.5 tune, will i run into any problems if i run out of meth and drive with straight 93 octane in the car?

 

[ChaneRZ]

It’ll just retard timing.

 

[44pirate]

I currently have lap3 ecu stage 1.5 with meth using jb4 as the controller and its running great. Now if i upgrade to the 2.5 tune, will i run into any problems if i run out of meth and drive with straight 93 octane in the car?

Don't be flooring it like crazy. You can just drive normal. Stay out of heavy boost.