Velossa Tech Designs Big Mouth Intake Snorkel: Initial Review

[Gavin]

Why can’t they be tested on a Dyno? If it’s delivering more and colder air there would be more rwkw wouldn’t there? And if there not any additional rwkw then what are they for?

 

[JP's_Stinger]

If there's no way to tell that this big mouth ram intake improves the performance of our Stingers, it doesn't feel any different on the butt dyno, there's no mph gain, no real intake/turbo sound improvement...then why would we buy this? Because it looks cool?? There doesn't seems to be any real argument to go forward with the purchase, isn't it?

If you have it on your car, please share your opinion!

 

[ryan1stinger]

If there's no way to tell that this big mouth ram intake improves the performance of our Stingers, it doesn't feel any different on the butt dyno, there's no mph gain, no real intake/turbo sound improvement...then why would we buy this? Because it looks cool?? There doesn't seems to be any real argument to go forward with the purchase, isn't it?

If you have it on your car, please share your opinion!

Agreed. That’s what I commented on months ago and have yet to see any dyno results.

 

[NS_Stinger]

How do you accurately dyno an air vent? You can try running a fan in front of it to simulate the ram air effect but I think these vents are totally reliant on things like humidity, ambient temperatures, wind direction, car speed etc. etc.

 

[SKStinger]

Agree with the above. You can’t dyno these. They seem to help with heat soak as they keep my filters cooler to the touch. I’ve noticed a big difference there over stock. Post #35 is probably the best testing you can do to show benefits of these.

I’d say with an aftermarket warm air intake these are a must. The stock snorkels are useless without the air boxes because you no longer have the negative pressure from the container box to pull in cold air so you are mostly sucking hot engine air.

 

[ryan1stinger]

Agree with the above. You can’t dyno these. They seem to help with heat soak as they keep my filters cooler to the touch. I’ve noticed a big difference there over stock. Post #35 is probably the best testing you can do to show benefits of these.

I’d say with an aftermarket warm air intake these are a must. The stock snorkels are useless without the air boxes because you no longer have the negative pressure from the container box to pull in cold air so you are mostly sucking hot engine air.

In speaking with my mechanic as long as air continues to flow through the restrictive opening to the airbox, then the gains from any snorkels will be limited. The snorkels allow for more air to enter the snorkel, however this leads to the opening of the airbox which feeds to the intakes and engine and that opening is quite restrictive. You can force a large amount of air into this opening, but the size will restrict how fast that cool air will reach the intakes. We need a bigger opening here. Have you come up with a solution to circumvent this restriction?

 

[Dodger Blue]

In speaking with my mechanic as long as air continues to flow through the restrictive opening to the airbox, then the gains from any snorkels will be limited. The snorkels allow for more air to enter the snorkel, however this leads to the opening of the airbox which feeds to the intakes and engine and that opening is quite restrictive. You can force a large amount of air into this opening, but the size will restrict how fast that cool air will reach the intakes. We need a bigger opening here. Have you come up with a solution to circumvent this restriction?

The best way to get around this seems to be placing the intakes themselves behind the grille, but the only design that did that is no longer manufactured. It also required the removal of the entire bumper to service the filters.

I wonder if a vortex generator inside the snorkel would improve flow at high speeds. I've seen that technique used in race car aero and aviation before. Might not have any effect at street legal speeds though.

 

[JP's_Stinger]

So basically, besides the look, all it will theoretically do is possibly help keep the IAT lower when pushing the car hard for an extended period of time. Yeah, I think I'm gonna pass. I'd rather spend that dough on a mod that'll actually improve something, like ATQ subframe collars or Whiteline EndLinks.

 

[mhal8876]

Why buy this VT Snorkel, when you have other option that is half price

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Hey @Rakker sent you a message :)

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[jazzdabb]

If only someone would 3D print a shroud with integrated snorkels ...

 

[SKStinger]

In speaking with my mechanic as long as air continues to flow through the restrictive opening to the airbox, then the gains from any snorkels will be limited. The snorkels allow for more air to enter the snorkel, however this leads to the opening of the airbox which feeds to the intakes and engine and that opening is quite restrictive. You can force a large amount of air into this opening, but the size will restrict how fast that cool air will reach the intakes. We need a bigger opening here. Have you come up with a solution to circumvent this restriction?

Has he seen where the stock snorkels are located and what they look like?

The stock snorkels have a tiny opening and sit on top of the radiator shroud and point up. Once you remove the stock airboxes, there is no longer an enclosed suction (via the enclosed stock boxes) to draw cold air in through those ducts. So they won't pull in much of anything and your filters are sucking in engine air. Putting front facing snorkels on forces air through those ducts to your filters as the car moves. So even though the ducts are small, at least there is outside air flowing to the filters.

 

[ryan1stinger]

I will be sure to raise this point the next time I go in and see what he says. With that being said, if I don’t use custom snorkels it may be best to go back to the air boxes with a K&N high performance air filter instead of my Tork intakes.

One thing I do recall, roughly a year ago, was that acceleration at highway speeds felt by the seat of my pants was quicker with the air boxes then my current intakes. Maybe your explanation explains why. I was using 101 octane at the same time so it could be a combination.

 

[perfpump]

I will be sure to raise this point the next time I go in and see what he says. With that being said, if I don’t use custom snorkels it may be best to go back to the air boxes with a K&N high performance air filter instead of my Tork intakes.

One thing I do recall, roughly a year ago, was that acceleration at highway speeds felt by the seat of my pants was quicker with the air boxes then my current intakes. Maybe your explanation explains why. I was using 101 octane at the same time so it could be a combination.

I'm kinda feeling the same thing. Just put on the Injen dual CAIs and I feel that I don't hear as high pitched rip when I get on it in sport mode as I did with the stock air boxes.