GT 2 AWD NOT REALLY A STINGER!?!?

[Gdank]

I'm not sure it's entirely Kia's Dishonesty, but more dealership lack of knowledge.

Even still anyone who does want to complain, I listed the correct procedure somewhere in this thread. Ranting, raving, and foaming at the mouth won't get you anywhere.

I do believe there was a level of misunderstanding by the Dealership that lead to this situation. By going through the motions you may get a deal your happy with ... going full mental on them will just get their back up and turn the to letter of the law.

I still wouldn't take one dealership's response that they cannot change the limiter if the wheels are changed - that smells of BS - therefore get that confirmed by Kia USA or other dealerships. It's a brand new car, so they probably have no idea what can or can't be done, so just played it safe.

 

[STNGRNV]

I don't think Kia has anything to gain by intentionally deceiving anyone about 20mph. It is more than likely that salesmen didn't know. I'm somewhat if a Stinger novice and none of the 3 salesmen I have talked to knew as much as I did when it came to the Stinger. Are the salesmen being dishonest? It's very possible because... car salesmen. But this wasn't exactly the smoothest vehicle launch in history.

 

[voon]

I don't care about any limits far above 120 kmh, as I can't use that anywhere in Switzerland without getting very harsh fines. But I would care, if I had not been told the truth while being sold something .. that's just not proper (if that happened).

 

[Waynerm002]

Based on what I am reading here, I don't see anywhere that KIA Corporate is trying to deceive customers. The documentation clearly states that the 18" wheel option lowers the top speed. This misinformation came from the dealership, specifically a salesperson(s) who clearly does not know the facts about the vehicle. I'm sure as enthusiasts most of us know more about these vehicles than a lot of the folks selling them. As said multiple times, you can work with your dealer or reach out to KIA corporate to see if they can assist. As humans, we understand that mistakes get made, the key is how you handle things when this occurs. Let's hope this can get resolved.

Going on a mission to disparage an entire company based on information from a salesperson that doesn't know his product seems like overkill. For that, you should have a nice chat with the General Manager of the dealership to work out something. I've had bad experience with sales folk, going to the top to express my dissatisfaction got results. Give that a shot, those folks have the power to do things your sales folk and their manager can't do. They car more about the business than your sales person does and want to ensure you have a good experience. Stop talking to the sale folk, look up who the GM is and reach out to them. Good luck.

 

[DCBStingerGT]

2018 Stinger Owner's Manual ( Kia Motors America )
Tire Speed Ratings / Tire Speed Capacity

 

[ballistic]

Life has taught me that too many boys think they can run all over the female race. Well, stand back and watch while this grown ass woman leads the charge!

ffs, it's getting better compared to what it used to be. take the peoples advice who's telling you not to approach this like a psychopath and use your intellect to make things happen.

 

[ldbs101]

The problem is not the deception..

The issue is even if she decides to put 19inch wheels with the proper speed ratings that Car will be limited with the limiter from the factory since she order the AWD wheels with 18 inch.

It doesn't matter if she wants to go 40mph or 167mph + , the problem from the post that have been posted is she will be LIMITED ..

BUT if she had ordered the 19 from the get go, she wouldn't be.

though question: for the people that are saying there is a limiter, how do you know? it just states that the 18 speed reduce can be just because of the tires? is there something specifically that states otherwise?

 

[davebo]

Out of curiosity, I recall someone saying the 0-60 times for the RWD and AWD were similar, but has any magazine tested the 0-60 for awd with the 18" all seasons? I'm wondering how much the reduced contact patch and different rubber affect the time.

 

[English D]

Not one person at my dealer kniew about this not the salesperson manager or tech and service director so again kia is at fault for not notifying the dealer even the ultra hush speed AS are not that much more and seeing as we didn't get a credit for not getting the 19's. this is a joke and this pic I took this morning even more of a joke with no disclaimer

 

[Gdank]

... with no disclaimer

Apart from the "Estimated Figures based on Stinger GT with rear wheel drive." .... at the bottom of the poster?

 

[English D]

Apart from the "Estimated Figures based on Stinger GT with rear wheel drive." .... at the bottom of the poster?

now your not picking even the AWD with 19,s does 165 doesn't change the fact of what we have been saying

 

[davebo]

Apart from the "Estimated Figures based on Stinger GT with rear wheel drive." .... at the bottom of the poster?

Yeah but if I saw that the first thing I'd ask would be "well what about the AWD version?" to which they'd reply well it's actually the exact same specs and be 100% right. Then no one would bother to mention that oh if you get the 18" wheels with it, it's a totally different story.

 

[Gdank]

You guys need to chill out ... I was pointing out there was a disclaimer, which the poster said there wasn't.

As for asking a Dealership a question ... you may as well ask them what's Pie to the 100th number and take their response as 100% correct.

Very hard to prove what someone said .... it's easy to prove what was written.

I'm actually on your side, if you read my posts I've said you have a case as I do believe it was miss communication - I've even given what to do next. .. number one Confirming that the Limiter cannot be changed - if this is the case then you have a better leg to stand on. ATM it's one dealership has said you can't.

Stop raging on forums and get hold of Kia directly and get confirmation.

 

[ldbs101]

1. the disclaimer posted on the other page says that the 18inch have a reduced speed top speed, does that mean with the tires since the rating is probably lower?

2. or does it mean even if you change your tires you are reduced in speed?

If it is the second choice than YES kia needs to fix this ASAP. because if a person changes tires they best be getting the top advertised speed even if not going that fast.

 

[Chris]

1. the disclaimer posted on the other page says that the 18inch have a reduced speed top speed, does that mean with the tires since the rating is probably lower?

2. or does it mean even if you change your tires you are reduced in speed?

If it is the second choice than YES kia needs to fix this ASAP. because if a person changes tires they best be getting the top advertised speed even if not going that fast.

If you bought it with 18's it is electronically limited to 140. Doesn't matter what tires you put on it later on.

 

[Gdank]

If you bought it with 18's it is electronically limited to 140. Doesn't matter what tires you put on it later on.

The real question is ... can the limit be changed by the dealership? ONE dealer said No .... but that's like saying you read on the internet that Star Trek > Star Wars because they said so!

 

[ballistic]

Apart from the "Estimated Figures based on Stinger GT with rear wheel drive." .... at the bottom of the poster?

hate ta break it to you guys but the shits in writing in multiple places. i don't like it any more than any of you but facts are facts. it doesn't make it right. i think it's a stupid policy to set something like this an be unable to change it. in fact, that's actually quite ridiculous. of course it can be changed. it's a damn computer. it's 2018. we replace people's hearts. next thing you know we'll be replacing heads and entire bodies. of course the limit can be changed. but we're going to need to voice this complaint. or maybe none of the dealerships are aware how to do this because we've only been complaining about it since 6 this morning or whatever.

but the truth is...it is documented.

 

[ldbs101]

I wonder if this is on the canadian models? because they only option they come with is the 19 inch awd . I haven't read anything about speed limited or reduce speeds for the CDN models

 

[ldbs101]

If you bought it with 18's it is electronically limited to 140. Doesn't matter what tires you put on it later on.

then kia needs to remedy this because if the person changes tires, it is ridiculous to limit it

Imagine ... buying something limited because you selected the 18 inch wheel option than you get yourself 19 and still limited, but anyone that factory orders the 19's gets no limiter

what a dumb decision

 

[Rocket]

The real question is ... can the limit be changed by the dealership? ONE dealer said No .... but that's like saying you read on the internet that Star Trek > Star Wars because they said so!

If you owned a Kia dealership, and one of your customers asked you to remove the speed limiter to allow them to drive the car faster than the factory tires could support, would you really do it?

If you were Kia, and you limited the top speed on certain cars specifically to minimize the potential of exceeding the tires speed rating, would you provide the dealership with the capability to override that built-in safety?

I just don't see it happening ... at least not by an authorized dealership and certainly not with Kia Corporate's blessing. Kia should have simply used a higher rated all-season tire for the 18" option.