Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.

Well first, it was hard to get a hard date on the tune through messaging online. Back and forth with "Let me talk to the owner and get back to you" being their last message to me. Then their website sales were down, so I couldn't actually purchase anything. Also, no option for no shipping since I'm local.

So I said f it, I'll make a stop down there and get a solid date and I wanted to check out the shop anyways and meet everyone. etc. Matt asked if I could pay for the extra ECU while I was at the shop, so they could make sure it was there on time. I said no problem at all. Went in, chatted it up for a while. Was told they would flash me back to stock whenever I wanted, so I decided I didn't really need an extra ECU since it's a 30 min drive. Matt asked if I wanted to pay for just the parts for the stage 1 while I was there. Sure, why not. I was planning to spend a grand on the ECU anyways today.

A little less than a week later they promoted a sale saying they were including intakes with a tune purchase. Sweet! Save me 200 bucks. So I message being kinda funny "You guys are gonna hook me up with that sale right!? :)" Thinking obviously they were going to... I paid early for convenience, and I didn't have to pay until the 8th when I actually got the parts. It was a chill convo, no sign of them saying I had to pay a week prior or anything like that. They have all the parts I wanted in the shop.

SILENCE. Read an hour later. Okay maybe they're a bit busy, I'm sure they'll get back to me tomorrow.

I message around lunch the next day. SILENCE. Read an hour later.

Ut oh. Now I'm like hmmm... There's no way they are gonna penalize me for paying EARLY right?

I message again that evening kind of explaining the situation. This time I get an instant reply with basically no.

At this point I had already spent 24 hours pretty upset that I was getting blown off when they had always responded promptly. It was pretty obvious they were gonna keep the money.

I asked for a full refund and told them I would be finding a new tuner and now they are upset with me. They didn't fight me on the refund though, so I do appreciate that.

This on top of :

The forum problems with Matt and John saying completely different things on whether reflashes were free. (Still hasn't been resolved.)
Matt telling me not to tell anyone about their pricing.
In person talks about their competition where they made some accusations.

Just made me feel shady. I had to watch what I typed on the forums like I was dealing in secret, and I was fairly sure if I had anything bad to say in the review of their tune I was going to be on their shit list (That means no reflashes. Case by case according to John). I decided that although they were my #1 choice, I'd rather have my #2 choice with better support.

I was kind of going out on a limb working with them, as I had read on other forums some pretty rough stuff about them. They don't have the best rep in some circles. Shit happens. As long as they do me right it's bygones. I was skeptical from the jump so it didn't take much to get me out. If I'm getting a 40,000 dollar car tuned, I want to know the place is going to work with me if anything happens, or if I'm not satisfied. I didn't get that impression so I hit the door.

In saying all of that, I still believe John is the most skilled tuner on this platform right now. Tonka has nothing but great things to say about his car and we have talked quite a bit. He is actually the one who alerted me to the sale and said "dude you're saving 200 bucks".
Well. That's a bummer you had a not great experience. If they try to resolve it would you go back or just have your eyes set on pesssertech?
 
This on top of :

The forum problems with Matt and John saying completely different things on whether reflashes were free. (Still hasn't been resolved.)

I'm still confused about that as well. After one of the Tork accounts cleared up the contradiction the other Tork account came and walked it all back so I have no idea where they stand regarding re-flashing.

Sorry things didn't work out but at least you were able to get your money back. $1k will get you a JB4, SSR mid-pipes, and a DIY intake. Decent consolation prizes.
 
Well. That's a bummer you had a not great experience. If they try to resolve it would you go back or just have your eyes set on pesssertech?

Undecided. I did try to message today and explain my side of things, and was told that they were upset at me for getting a refund and finding someone else.
 
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Undecided. I did try to message today and explain my side of things, and was told that they were upset at me for getting a refund and finding someone else.

Did they insinuate it or actually say that? That's pretty funny.
 
Did they insinuate it or actually say that? That's pretty funny.

" I am sorry you feel the way you do but the previous response you hmgave us with you want a refund, to cancel your appointment and you will find another tuner made us very upset."
 
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" I am sorry you feel the way you do but the previous response you hmgave us with you want a refund, to cancel your appointment and you will find another tuner made us very upset."

HA! Business and emotions mix like oil and water.

I just did some research on them and what I found is interesting, to say the least. Get a JB4.
 
Wow, well that’s not good. He’s made tons of progress... SCT please crack this platform!!!!!
 
Yup. That’s why they aren’t an option for me. Google Pressertech...

Their reviews are definitely better.

I just can't get over how tame their tune is for the price (it does explain why it works with stock plugs without regapping though). And I don't understand why their website has no mention of Kia Stinger tuning. Or why they ghosted the forum after tuning MisterMac's car.
 
Could it be there numbers are lower due to fuel?
 
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Could it be there numbers are lower due to fuel?

They're in Atlanta. They should have 93 octane available. I think the tune is just really conservative. Maybe with the Stinger being such a new platform for them they didn't want to push it too far.
 
My fuel wires for the JB4 should be here any day. Looking at my logs though, I won’t need much leaning out till 6K rpm. The is at 11.4-11.8 most of the run. If anything I could add fuel in at 3-4K rpms.

You guys know if the JB4 can add fuel?
 
Their reviews are definitely better.

I just can't get over how tame their tune is for the price (it does explain why it works with stock plugs without regapping though). And I don't understand why their website has no mention of Kia Stinger tuning. Or why they ghosted the forum after tuning MisterMac's car.

With you on that. Maybe I'll call them up tomorrow and ask them what is going on?
 
They're in Atlanta. They should have 93 octane available. I think the tune is just really conservative. Maybe with the Stinger being such a new platform for them they didn't want to push it too far.
They said they do revise tunes and look for improvements and all revised tunes are offered for free. I am just waiting to get my Stinger bought back and once I get a new one I’ll be doing the pressertech tune with intakes and a catback. I’ll try to get a pre and post dyno.
 
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They said they do revise tunes and look for improvements and all revised tunes are offered for free. I am just waiting to get my Stinger bought back and once I get a new one I’ll be doing the pressertech tune with intakes and a catback. I’ll try to get a pre and post dyno.
You guys are going to leave me all alone at the top of the 1/4 mile leader board. But I hate Apple where you pay alot for a little but get to shop in a pretty white store thats way over staffed. But what do i know?
 
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I'm still confused about that as well. After one of the Tork accounts cleared up the contradiction the other Tork account came and walked it all back so I have no idea where they stand regarding re-flashing.

Sorry things didn't work out but at least you were able to get your money back. $1k will get you a JB4, SSR mid-pipes, and a DIY intake. Decent consolation prizes.

What do you need to know about re-flash on the ECU?

I thought this was very clear, that we offer a one time reflash service for free, then after that we take it on a case by case basis.

Or, we can offer unlimited flashes, and when the flash counter reaches maximum, and bricks your ECU then what?

I do my best to explain to people what we offer, but it seems to be missing something. So, ask me exactly what you want answered and we will get it answered, the best we can.
 
Undecided. I did try to message today and explain my side of things, and was told that they were upset at me for getting a refund and finding someone else.

Its a little more detailed than that, but... you got the refund you asked for.
 
You guys are going to leave me all alone at the top of the 1/4 mile leader board. But I hate Apple where you pay alot for a little but get to shop in a pretty white store thats way over staffed. But what do i know?
I am sitting here at the top waiting for someone else to best my time, its only been 5 months :)
 
Another Tuner reached out to me on their tune wont mentions who but since there are only two people doing ECU flashes i think you all can figure it out.

He seems to be done with his stage 1 and stage 2 tunes. The numbers he has sent me seem decent. No where near Torks but decent. Hes working on a new stage (I believe he called it stage 3) that is supposed to require new turbos but he said it will be a scary fast car no prediction on gains on that yet, but i believing hoping for low 11s. Will be interesting to see where this platform is in 1 year, whos in the mix, and who is going to produce our new turbos lol.

Moving to bigger turbos, when there is still more left in the stock turbo's, makes sense ;)

Methanol, E30, super tight plug gaps, and for what reason?

When I have the Stage 2 tune figured out, the ECU mapped, and start posting results, its going to blow peoples minds.

The problem being, everyone is looking for the bandaid to get there and make the power. While, I amniver here trying to find the limitation inside the ECU.

Now, if we get this figured out.... can you imagine what we will be able to do with bigger turbo's, methanol and E30 fuel blends?
 
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