Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.

[TorkMe]

Every one of your posts is simply "I'll let the logs speak for themselves" but you don't seem to understand that hundreds of people are reading your post with no idea what timing is or what it does. Without you explaining why these points are bad, you're basically gaslighting and coming off to be an idiot.

Running the turbos hard at high RPM can cause stress and unnecessary heat which isn't evident in any case since I doubt anyone has over 30k right now. I don't expect to see any numbers for EGT or any other relevant data point, but it's been noted in other car communities that holding boost up high is not good (with small turbos / outside efficiency range).

The same cannot be said about timing, the map will be specific to this car to most extents. If the ECU is not pulling timing back, why is it bad? JB4 is not intercepting / hiding the signal from the ECU.

On the other side, we have people running Lap3 saying that the 21psi they're running is no big deal (although they've been really quiet lately for some reason).

Agreed, and thank you for making the painful point that logs are a waste of time, when only 2% understand what they mean.

Oh yes they are hidding signal from the ECU, so... don't even get me started on load index and knock correcfion for hidden boost signal. Not only that, but the calculated cylinder pressures are going to be way off, like dangerously off to determine injector firing cycle (degrees in crank rotation that the injector fires at in relation to cylinder pressure).

To the experienced eye, you can look at a log and see how pissed off the ECU is in how jagged the logs are. A smooth log line indicates a happy ECU, a jagged pissed off line, means the ECU is making an attempt to correct, but the piggy back keeps adjusting to stop the ECU from successfully making the change.

Now, you want to talk about turbo heat and turbo life? The ECU calculates EGT's based on several factors, and boost being one of them is important, lol. Now we have massive amounts of boost, cranked up ignition timing, and lean AFR's that the ECU cannot see, lol. Because the piggy back is hidding all that from the ECU so... the exhaust temps skyrocket and the poor ECU doesn't even know its happening.

I could rant for days on how the ECU responds to changes hidden from it, but less than 1% would understand what I was typing.

 

[TorkMe]

Oh snap, vectors for min and max torque transitions have been found

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

What does it all mean Tork team!!!!! Lol. Can you focus on figuring out how I can flash to stock from home already -_-

 

[Angel]

Who would like to change part throttle shift points? View attachment 15989

I’m confused ... what does this actually mean ? Can you adjust shift points ?? Can you provide a little detail for us normal people lol ......

 

[Angel]

Who would like to change part throttle shift points? View attachment 15989

Oh snap, vectors for min and max torque transitions have been found

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Can you provide more details on what this will do and can this progress you guys are making be applied to a stage ?

 

[DaJackson]

Don’t get me started on how bad a Tork ecu “tune” is, unfortunately most of you are too dumb to understand even if I tried to explain.

 

[Tonkabob]

Don’t get me started on how bad a Tork ecu “tune” is, unfortunately most of you are too dumb to understand even if I tried to explain

I think you forgot the word "ass" how "bad ass" a tork tune is.
Keep sharing Tork, good stuff. Especially that second max torque table.

 

[Tonkabob]

What does it all mean Tork team!!!!! Lol. Can you focus on figuring out how I can flash to stock from home already -_-

I dont think encryption cracking is his thing but others are working on that.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

Don’t get me started on how bad a Tork ecu “tune” is, unfortunately most of you are too dumb to understand even if I tried to explain.

REALLY??!! That's ALL you have to say??!! REALLY??!!

 

[Kamauxx]

Don’t get me started on how bad a Tork ecu “tune” is, unfortunately most of you are too dumb to understand even if I tried to explain.

C'mon man. Either be a troll or be a moderator. We don't need trollerators. Pick a struggle.

 

[Angel]

Don’t get me started on how bad a Tork ecu “tune” is, unfortunately most of you are too dumb to understand even if I tried to explain.

lol I am not sure if this is sarcasm on another level or you are being serious .... can you please provide more details I personally would like to hear your opinion ....

 

[Angel]

C'mon man. Either be a troll or be a moderator. We don't need trollerators. Pick a struggle.

Why is he being a troll ? Maybe he had a bad experience with Tork or maybe that is just his opinion ..... not saying he did but I don’t think he should be labeled as a troll right away ...... let the man speak his mind and provide more details to his opinion ..... I think your a troll lol always have to come in out of nowhere with your trying to be the funny guy.... do you not get attention at home from the wife lol

 

[Kamauxx]

I dont think encryption cracking is his thing but others are working on that.

On post #10 he discusses it.

I don't understand the post fully, though. Either they planned to offer it and the level of encryption changed their mind. Or they are still planning on offering it but the encryption has slowed them down.

 

[Tonkabob]

On post #10 he discusses it.

I don't understand the post fully, though. Either they planned to offer it and the level of encryption changed their mind. Or they are still planning on offering it but the encryption has slowed them down.

I meant that tork will at some point offer the port flash but John personally isn't trying to crack the encryption. Others that he collaborates with are.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

Why is he being a troll ? Maybe he had a bad experience with Tork or maybe that is just his opinion ..... not saying he did but I don’t think he should be labeled as a troll right away

I think it's pretty clear to everyone that his post was satirical.

He's obviously taking a shot at Tork after Tork wrote that posting logs is a waste of time since most people don't understand them.

 

[Kamauxx]

I think it's pretty clear to everyone that his post was satirical.

He's obviously taking a shot at Tork after Tork wrote that posting logs is a waste of time since most people don't understand them.

Most of us understood.

 

[TwinSnails]

I’m quite interested in your continued discussion of what the piggyback is causing within the ECU.

One of my pet peeves is I want to see my KR (knock reduction) counts. I want to visually observe how much “large” knock corrections the car is making under WOT strain.

I don’t want to have to wonder if 5* had been pulled for shifts or lean fuel tables, or cylinder pressure, or ... you get the point.

 

[DaJackson]

I think it's pretty clear to everyone that his post was satirical.

He's obviously taking a shot at Tork after Tork wrote that posting logs is a waste of time since most people don't understand them.

I thought it was pretty clear as well.

Don’t start a thread where the stated goal is to explain the differences between two approaches and then just say approach B is bad because of reasons that I don’t want to explain or jagged lines and approach A is better because there are tables in an ECU DB.

If you can’t explain it, fine but don’t try to act like your an expert and we’re just supposed to buy in to whatever you say.

 

[TwinSnails]

@TorkMe, I’ll also add that without the fuel wires I’m very Lean up to 14-16mph (15.04 range and then everything moves into a much better 11.5-12 range from there out.

Where is the ECU tune transitioning to the safer AFR range? Trying to figure out how much faster the ECU intercepts that WOT punch.

 

[Doel]

Every one of your posts is simply "I'll let the logs speak for themselves" but you don't seem to understand that hundreds of people are reading your post with no idea what timing is or what it does.

that's a problem in and of itself. If anyone doesn't understand what timing is, what it does, or how it can affect your car, they need to spend an hour or two on google/youtube, read some articles and watch some videos on the basics of car tuning. If you're going to mess with your vehicle, the very least you can do is have a basic understanding of how it works.......