All Season tires

[MerlintheMad]

One thing I forgot to ask, have you noticed better mileage due to the tire change? Seeing as how they are less sticky than the Michelin PS 4, I would think the economy would increase.

Nope. Mileage seems the same.

 

[MisterMac]

N my mpgs do not seem any different than with the M Sports either.

 

[Waynerm002]

Got my Motivo’s installed, did a 50 mile drive on them. First impressions are that they are quieter than the Michelin PS 4 on most surfaces, some surfaces have a different tone but on concrete where most tires gets noisy, these have sort of muted sound. I’m liking these.

 

[MikeysGT]

FWIW, I just had Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06's installed yesterday. My dealer beat any online source I found for them. I have not put them through the paces yet, but after driving on them for about 25 miles I can already tell a HUGE difference in ride comfort over the summers, as expected. Although note with these tires, the fronts do not protrude out past the wheel so pay extra care with curb rash.

 

[MerlintheMad]

One thing I forgot to ask, have you noticed better mileage due to the tire change? Seeing as how they are less sticky than the Michelin PS 4, I would think the economy would increase.

Okay, the Nitto Motivo UHP A/S on a 750 plus miles trip yesterday produced pretty close to identical mpg averages as with the Michelin summers. Almost entirely highway driving (freeway dominating), I touched 28 mpg, and held a consistent 27+ mpg from north of St George (UT) to LA. On the uphill parts the average would drop back into the 26 and even 25 range. But the downhill/flat returned a better average, and thus the 27+.

(Oh, and this includes a fair bit of fooling around at high speeds between Baker and San Bernardino: the Stinger likes being driven fast; and trending downhill does hurt either.)

 

[Deisic]

Okay, the Nitto Motivo UHP A/S on a 750 plus miles trip yesterday produced pretty close to identical mpg averages as with the Michelin summers. Almost entirely highway driving (freeway dominating), I touched 28 mpg, and held a consistent 27+ mpg from north of St George (UT) to LA. On the uphill parts the average would drop back into the 26 and even 25 range. But the downhill/flat returned a better average, and thus the 27+.

(Oh, and this includes a fair bit of fooling around at high speeds between Baker and San Bernardino: the Stinger likes being driven fast; and trending downhill does hurt either.)

Merlin, so no need for winter tires out here, eh? I can be fine with A/S

 

[MerlintheMad]

Merlin, so no need for winter tires out here, eh? I can be fine with A/S

Mostly. I've run on A/S my whole driving life. Even during the worst snow we get lately, the roads are cleaned off quickly; so only running through snow that is several inches deep might show off snow tires as better. If you are driving carefully, including braking early and softly, then A/S are good enough, the way i drive. I'm going for year round practicality. I don't want the expense of changing tires twice a year, storing tires (heh, anybody want a good set of Michelin summer tires?), or having a second set of rims to make that easier but also more money and storage hassle.

The Motivos worked very well coming down to Cali yesterday, performing more than well at high speed (yes, I was a bit of a speed freak; I don't know what came over me; I'm trying to enter the first stages of repentance).

 

[Deisic]

Mostly. I've run on A/S my whole driving life. Even during the worst snow we get lately, the roads are cleaned off quickly; so only running through snow that is several inches deep might show off snow tires as better. If you are driving carefully, including braking early and softly, then A/S are good enough, the way i drive. I'm going for year round practicality. I don't want the expense of changing tires twice a year, storing tires (heh, anybody want a good set of Michelin summer tires?), or having a second set of rims to make that easier but also more money and storage hassle.

The Motivos worked very well coming down to Cali yesterday, performing more than well at high speed (yes, I was a bit of a speed freak; I don't know what came over me; I'm trying to enter the first stages of repentance).

I know what you mean about speed in this car, it just begs for it. Cool, and thanks for the advice on the tires.

 

[Waynerm002]

The Nitto Motivo’s are breaking in well now. On my ride in this morning, I noticed the car being more quiet than I recall since changing the tires. Over concrete sections is when I realized it looks like with over 500 miles on the tires they have gotten quieter! I’ve liking them more now!

 

[Mark Richards]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow? I just brought home a GT2 with the all season tire package. I specifically wanted the A/S tires instead of summers so I wouldn't have to buy a second set. But online reviews for the Potenzas don't seem to be very favorable. now I'm thinking I either need a set winters or new all seasons. I live in Denver, so we do have stretches of winter weather, but most of the time we're driving on dry pavement.

 

[MikeysGT]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow? I just brought home a GT2 with the all season tire package. I specifically wanted the A/S tires instead of summers so I wouldn't have to buy a second set. But online reviews for the Potenzas don't seem to be very favorable. now I'm thinking I either need a set winters or new all seasons. I live in Denver, so we do have stretches of winter weather, but most of the time we're driving on dry pavement.

My dealership wouldn't swap out the tires for all seasons when I bought the car because they said it comes "as is". So you got lucky in that aspect. BUT I did get them to knock $500 off the price because of it

 

[SteveCo]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow?

Potenzas have been around for quite a while - check the reviews over at tire rack, and you'll probably get a much better idea than what you'd find from the small sample size here.

 

[Waynerm002]

Tire rack users say the same thing, they suck! LOL! Seriously though, I had the 1st gen of those tires in the past and I ditched them real fast. They were noisy, didn't grip well based on how I drive (Subaru Legacy 5 speed wagon at the time) and I dumped them even before winter came. For a 365 HP car, I was shocked they used those tires on them, for the 2.0t they would be ok (I would still get rid of them) but they were too noisy on every test drive I took in one. For the GT2 in Denver, you might be better served by some winter tires or a higher performing UHPAS tire.

 

[Mark Richards]

Yeah, a lot of bad reviews on Tire Rack. TR also has a comparison video of 4 Grand Touring all season tires, and the Potenzas were basically the worst in all categories. I suppose I may need to pony up and get a set of winters.

 

[Waynerm002]

One would think KIA would have went with Michelins for the 18" wheels as well, they could use a GT version on the 2.0T, say the Premier AS and for the GT use the Pilot Sport AS 3+.

 

[nhcowboy28]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow? I just brought home a GT2 with the all season tire package. I specifically wanted the A/S tires instead of summers so I wouldn't have to buy a second set. But online reviews for the Potenzas don't seem to be very favorable. now I'm thinking I either need a set winters or new all seasons. I live in Denver, so we do have stretches of winter weather, but most of the time we're driving on dry pavement.

I’ve never had any good luck on ice with ANY all season.

I’m in Atlanta and shouldn’t have to worry about winter tires... but even the highest rated A/S will slide on ice (even idling slowly). Been there done that.

I opted instead to get the summers. And “winter performance” tires to swap. Better than all seasons in snow and ice... but unsure by how much yet.

 

[SteveCo]

Prior to the Stinger, I'd never had a set of winter tires on a vehicle - at best using all seasons for 'acceptable' performance if driven carefully. The Stinger I knew I wouldn't be using the high performance Michelin PS4s in the winter time, and as I've had very good results with Michelin tires I opted to get their best rated true winter tire (Michelin XIce3).

We haven't got into the thick of winter yet, but I have to say that the few times so far we've had snow and ice on the road, these tires in combination with the AWD have greatly exceeded my expectations. I've driven around people spinning on glazed ice without even a hint of a slip from the tires. Braking and acceleration is exceptional.

If you are on the fence, I suggest spending a little extra instead of opting for a lower cost solution. Why scrimp on winter tires, after purchasing a high performance car that you'll be driving year round?

 

[MerlintheMad]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow? I just brought home a GT2 with the all season tire package. I specifically wanted the A/S tires instead of summers so I wouldn't have to buy a second set. But online reviews for the Potenzas don't seem to be very favorable. now I'm thinking I either need a set winters or new all seasons. I live in Denver, so we do have stretches of winter weather, but most of the time we're driving on dry pavement.

Welcome to the Stinger Forum.

I finally went for the Nitto Motivo A/S UHP for my staggered 19" rims. The 60K treadlife warranty is still 30K with different sized front and rear tires. But, had my car come with 18" squared rims, I'd maybe have the new Michelin winter tires on right now, or the Motivos: not sure which, really. What moved me to go A/S was the disagreeable selection of winter tires for the 19s: I did not want to swap tires twice a year on my rims; and I did not want to buy rims to put winter tires on and store them. So, I am trying out these A/S Motivos to see if I can drive them year-round. So far I am encouraged that this will work for me. The Motivos are quieter than the Michelin summer tires, they handle almost as well and they are also a UHP tire (I don't want a lower rated tire, so the Motivos had that going for them too). I am used to A/S through winters around here: decades of driving on nothing but A/S. So these, being very good A/S, plus AWD, should be more traction than I have ever encountered before.

 

[GRStinger]

New owner here - can anyone comment on how good/bad the 18" all seasons that come from the factory (Potenza RE97) are on ice/snow? I just brought home a GT2 with the all season tire package. I specifically wanted the A/S tires instead of summers so I wouldn't have to buy a second set. But online reviews for the Potenzas don't seem to be very favorable. now I'm thinking I either need a set winters or new all seasons. I live in Denver, so we do have stretches of winter weather, but most of the time we're driving on dry pavement.

Mark, I faced the same decision. I can't say how/good bad the Potenza's are in snow, but I've already bought and just mounted a set of winter wheels and tires. The reasons: we get a lot of snow and I drive a lot; the Bridgestone Potenza's have a lousy snow rating - and I believe it because I had a 'cousin' of those tires - the Turenza's as OEM's on an Altima coupe 3.5 SE FWD, and they were terrible in the snow. Also, I consider it "insurance" for driving more safely as well as protecting those nice OEM wheels from potential 'curb rash'. That said, it's not a bad idea to drive those Potenza's in the winter for awhile and see how they work for you. If they indeed suck, you can always buy winters later. Check out some of my other posts - showing the wheels and tires I got/paid, and how they look.

 

[SteveCo]

Update. Just got home from a meeting out of town, and returned through my first (unexpected) highway driving snowstorm in this car - you couldn't see anything in the way of lane markings, or at times much at all in front of you beside a blanket of descending snow. For the most part I was driving by tracking the sides of the highway, where the bright light from the headlights dropped off over the shoulder edges.

The combination of bright and crisp LED headlights and the sure footed traction was amazing - even at reduced speed I passed lines of 4WD SUVs that were creeping along the road, and was in no way pushing the car's capabilities or road conditions. I did get a warning at one point that the car's radar sensor was disabled due to contamination - not a problem as it's not something I would be using in these conditions.

The car drove like a champion and never spun a wheel - just tracked straight and true. I slowed down where needed (when the sides of the highway became intermittently visible) and resumed speed where they were. I couldn't be happier with this total combination - definitely the best winter driving vehicle I've had the pleasure to pilot.