All Season tires

[Waynerm002]

Snow tires are the best in winter for sure, hard to beat them with All Seasons.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Snow tires are the best in winter for sure, hard to beat them with All Seasons.

We don't expect to beat winter tires with A/S, do we? I sure don't. I believe the several published video tests between summer, A/S and winter tires on ice. Cornering and stopping: A/S do an adequate job if you drive on them as A/S and not trying to "compete" with winter tire equipped cars. Winter tires will out corner and out brake A/S from now until the end of the winter, end stop. But, I am expecting, as I already said, that this car with A/S will vastly out perform any vehicle that I have driven through snow in my life. If I am disappointed, then I will buy winter tires mid season and alert everyone here about it.

 

[Oryan]

There's also the case of people that live in states like Virginia that can't make their damn minds up on what season it is. Going from a little snow at 30F to 60-70F less than 24 hours later which will break down winter tires like no tomorrow is a hassle a lot of people may not want to deal with. Sure, conditions may warrant or somewhat justify winter tires..for 3 days. Then it's too warm for them, or even in the morning, may be too cold for summers but by afternoon is too warm for winters. I'll just stick with good A/S tires and not drive like a hoon when it's cold and wet or something frozen is on the ground.

 

[SteveCo]

There's also the case of people that live in states like Virginia that can't make their damn minds up on what season it is.

Winter tires are a good choice for the appropriate climate and conditions - not when using them might be of benefit for only a few days at best. We consistently have winter conditions with snow, ice and/or low temperatures for months at a time. If I lived in an area with conditions like yours I'd be in the all-season camp as well.

On the other hand, using all-season tires as a compromise or cost-saving measure in ongoing actual winter conditions I consider a poor choice as well. The car is equipped for high performance traction in summer conditions, and I certainly want nothing less in winter - especially when safety is much more of a factor.

 

[Jay Tea]

Two questions:

Does anyone have experience with General Altimax RT 43, on new 18" wheels (same size all 4)? I am looking for a very quiet, winter highway use, All Season tire. For only ~$155 each, TireRack rates these very highly.

Can I fit 235/45R18 tires inside the wheel-wells (all 4 corners), without rubbing?

Thanks!

 

[Waynerm002]

You driving a 2.0T or 3.3T? The G-MAX AS05 would be the better overall tire for all year use on either.

 

[nhsjpeterson]

Happy happy joy Joy! I've done c. 25 miles on my new Nitto Motivo A/S "Y" rated (ultra high performance) tires. The first thing I noticed was less noise, not a lot less but still less. And the impacting with road irregularities, always a flat "slap" with the Michelins, was even more noticeably softened. The ride is smoother. On the freeway I turned on my PSI indicator and discovered that Big O did not look at the PSI ratings inside the door. Grrr. Whyever not? Tomorrow morning I will raise the PSI to somewhere near 45 and then let air out to 38 front and 36 rear: right now it is more like 34-35 rear and 32 front, running warm. Despite the slightly under pressured tires I took the I-215 interchange at a full 80 MPH and found them very satisfying; predictable and not "swayyey". The sidewalls seem stiff; probably not as stiff as Pilot Super Sports, but very adequate for "spirited" driving on normal roads. Running them at the right PSI should make them even a bit better. They are wider than the Michelins.

I carried the Michelins home in the back and stored them in the shed.
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So did you drive back home with your hatch open or were you able to get it to close?

 

[TwinSnails]

How many RWD stingers have braved snow/ice in All-Season tires. This will be the first year nothing in my yard is either AWD (Legacy, Silverado SS, and WRX) or 4x4 (4trucks).

I’m in NC, so snow is gone in about 3-4 days. But the wife and I do have ‘Mandatory Jobs’

 

[Waynerm002]

I wouldn't do it in the DC metro area but down south, you guys don't typically get as much of the white stuff as folk further up north. You can get a set of winter wheels and tires and swap them on if it gets bad and you have to get going.

 

[TwinSnails]

I was hoping a solid set of UHPAS would work

 

[Andimal]

Anyone running Continental Extreme Contacts?

 

[MikeysGT]

Anyone running Continental Extreme Contacts?

Affirmative

 

[Andimal]

Affirmative

All good? I'm in East TN and we get some snow/ice and certainly cold temps. Was supposed to get mine on last week but their tire press was broken.

 

[MikeysGT]

A bit softer ride than the PS4, as expected. The sidewalls don't seem QUITE as stiff because through very aggressive cornering they can feel just a bit jumpy, but so far so good. As long as I can take care of my balancing issue, but that's a topic in another thread already. 3rd balance scheduled for Wednesday, this time at my old Honda dealership

 

[MerlintheMad]

So did you drive back home with your hatch open or were you able to get it to close?

LOL!? Perish the thought! I will never, ever, drive with the hatch open for any reason in the universe; not bungee corded down or strapped down in any other way either. Fully latched, or I don't drive. My lawnmower will fit in there easily too, with the seats folded and the handle in the down position. That hasn't even been tried yet. But I can tell ahead of time that it won't even begin to tax the capacious cavern of the hatch/cargo area.

 

[MerlintheMad]

How many RWD stingers have braved snow/ice in All-Season tires. This will be the first year nothing in my yard is either AWD (Legacy, Silverado SS, and WRX) or 4x4 (4trucks).

I’m in NC, so snow is gone in about 3-4 days. But the wife and I do have ‘Mandatory Jobs’

I've driven on nothing BUT A/S my whole life, two-wheel drive my whole life; until now (my first "summers" ever also on this car). And have driven through snow deep enough to smooth out under the chassis, i.e. up to the hubs. I've also gotten stuck in snow that deep more than once; but I always dug myself out and kept going. This is going to be a good driver in the snow with A/S, even if you don't have AWD. That's just me talking about myself. YMMV, and if so, then having a "winter driver" as a backup vehicle for those really scary days is what I recommend.

 

[JoeShmo]

Hey @Oryan and @Waynerm002 (and others) What tires did you settle on for the upcoming winter in Virginia? Looking at tirerack, surprisingly Goodyear Weatherready seems to be highest rated A/S tire, even scoring 8.8 on ice! 60k mile tread warranty, But $175 each!
Unfortunately, the only 2019 Panthera Metal gt2 awd I could find had the 19s (pilot sports). So looks like I need a set of tires and rims, I want to go with 18s for possibly a slightly smoother ride.
Might go with Bremmer Kraft rims.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Nitto Motivo AS Initial Review

 

[Waynerm002]

Hi Joe, looks like you are close to pulling the trigger! I went with the Nitto Motivo like Merlin but I can't speak much on the snow performance as I haven't been in any so far. There is a review thread on this tire that I started, look through there and see what others have been saying. Being in Winchester, you might want to look at some winter tires as I hear you guys get a lot of snow out that side.

 

[RLittle]

Two questions:

Does anyone have experience with General Altimax RT 43, on new 18" wheels (same size all 4)? I am looking for a very quiet, winter highway use, All Season tire. For only ~$155 each, TireRack rates these very highly.

Can I fit 235/45R18 tires inside the wheel-wells (all 4 corners), without rubbing?

Thanks!

The RT43 is a very good winter tire for an all season. Quiet also. I ran them on both my Optimas.

Cant tell you about the rubbing but thinner tires are better in the snow.