Turbo failure dealer won’t warranty due to exhaust?

Dude!!! Only if dealership could see it. They would pay you for that!!!:cool:
I don't have an interest in him getting caught or having the dealer making him pay.

I just don't like that he's purposely misleading members of this group, and he doesn't take any responsibility for things failing on his car after he modified it and didn't do things the right way like running properly gapped plugs when tuned, and running E85 without modifying his fueling system.
 
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I don't have an interest in him getting caught or having the dealer making him pay.

I just don't like that he's purposely misleading members of this group, and he doesn't take any responsibility for things failing on his car after he modified it and didn't do things the right way like running properly gapped plugs when tuned, and running E85 without modifying his fueling system.
I think this happens more than you think. Especially amongst enthusiasts.
 
I think this happens more than you think. Especially amongst enthusiasts.
Oh, for sure it happens. The OP is just a particularly egregious example of it...
 
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I don't have an interest in him getting caught or having the dealer making him pay.

I just don't like that he's purposely misleading members of this group, and he doesn't take any responsibility for things failing on his car after he modified it and didn't do things the right way like running properly gapped plugs when tuned, and running E85 without modifying his fueling system.
I agree, I don't want him to get caught either or for the dealer to deny him coverage but it paints a bad picture for the platform when people claim failures of engine components but play stupid about all the misteps they took that got them there. Running map 5 with e85, improperly gapped plugs and no idea what he was doing is almost certainly why his turbo failed. BMS even says if you run map5 with e85 you should basically know how to tune a car anf read logs yourself, so it's not novice stuff to be messing with.
 
I'm not going to be a "Karen" or consider myself the morality police but right is right and wrong is wrong! The OP in reality is a thief....he stole a warranty repair by misrepresenting the facts...plain and simple! I'm not going to say more power to him because people who do those things is the reason honest people either have to pay higher costs or have to go through extraordinary efforts for legitimate claims! Like I said before if you make a conscious decision to play then make the conscious decision to pay!
 
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Yes I had these things on previously and never really resolved so I pulled everything off a long while ago Back to stock and it’s been like that for the last 20,000 miles.
 
So many experts out there that no my day-to-day activities and what I’m doing to my car and what I’ve done to my car. I’m not misleading anybody. I pulled all that shit off the car and hold it long ago
 
So many experts out there that no my day-to-day activities and what I’m doing to my car and what I’ve done to my car. I’m not misleading anybody. I pulled all that shit off the car and hold it long ago
It doesn't take an expert to figure out that the problems you caused back then are probably going to cause things to fail prematurely. By your line of reasoning, an owner can run an unsafe tune with the wrong plugs that runs lean, misfires, stresses parts, and causes problems; but as long as he removes it, things should be fine for the remaining life of the car. I can't tell if you're delusional, ignorant, or just being deceptive.

That's fine though, just keep deflecting while you're waiting for your car to be fixed under the warranty. Hopefully you learned your lesson and once you get your car back, you'll either pay someone who knows what they're doing, or you'll stick to modifications that aren't over your head. Good luck, Scotty.
 
To be honest, very few people on this board are expert tuners (maybe only one person?). I think it is silly to jump on a somebody for poor tuning processes and then assuming that is what caused a specific problem later. Essentially that is what the dealer was trying to pull. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

Anyone who mods their car could eventually expose a flaw that only occurs after a chain of events that culminates with the failure of a downstream or upstream component that is not designed to perform outside of that envelope. No dealer is going to perform a forensic discovery on a failure, as well very few, if any, owners, thus they rely on flawed reasoning when taking into account mods.

Feel like saying that the downpipes, plugs and tune did a single turbo in? Fine; prove it.
 
To be honest, very few people on this board are expert tuners (maybe only one person?). I think it is silly to jump on a somebody for poor tuning processes and then assuming that is what caused a specific problem later. Essentially that is what the dealer was trying to pull. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

Anyone who mods their car could eventually expose a flaw that only occurs after a chain of events that culminates with the failure of a downstream or upstream component that is not designed to perform outside of that envelope. No dealer is going to perform a forensic discovery on a failure, as well very few, if any, owners, thus they rely on flawed reasoning when taking into account mods.

Feel like saying that the downpipes, plugs and tune did a single turbo in? Fine; prove it.
Ahhhh, so you want to disregard that he ran stock plugs that weren't gapped properly with Map 2, didn't have his plugs torqued down properly, and also decided to run map 5 with E85 (max E30 is what Burger recommends). Nobody has to be an "expert tuner" to know that's not doing his engine any favors. If you'd be willing to use your car under those same scenarios, we can either prove or disprove my theory and see what happens. So let me know when you want to fill your Stinger up with E85, run map 5, and use stock plugs that aren't torqued down properly and we'll see what happens. Would that be proof enough for you?

Scott also painted the picture at the beginning that his car merely ever had a catback exhaust, and disregarded all the issues his car was previously suffering from and the mods that were on it.

Try this analogy: If someone didn't change their oil for the first 15,000 miles, then finally changed it every 5,000 miles after that, and then had engine problems at 30,000 miles, does it take an expert to think that his engine probably developed issues during those first 15,000 miles of neglect? That's essentially what happened here: His engine suffered neglect at his own hands, and he wants to act like he had nothing to do with it.

I think it should serve as a warning to folks not to mess with their cars if they don't understand what they are doing. Not everyone is going to get as lucky as the OP to have the dealer cover the repairs under warranty. Thanks for trying to make him feel better by defending him, but it's not doing anyone any favors. Let's learn from his mistakes, and discourage others from doing the same thing.
 
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I mean technically he committed fraud by lying and could go to jail if Kia ever found out he modified the car and didn’t tell them after they fixed it under false pretenses.
 
I mean technically he committed fraud by lying and could go to jail if Kia ever found out he modified the car and didn’t tell them after they fixed it under false pretenses.
It's getting interesting
 
chats about to call the dealer up on op lmaoooo
 
This is why I really don't like buying used cars - people feel that they need to hide information to get ahead. I've been burned by this many times, so I've lost any sympathy for people that do it.
 
I mean technically he committed fraud by lying and could go to jail if Kia ever found out he modified the car and didn’t tell them after they fixed it under false pretenses.
I don't think it would go to that level, but Kia could certainly deny the warranty, and it could become something that got settled in court. I've got no interest in "turning the guy in".

I just want others to not make the same mistakes, and then not have to go down this road of deception in an attempt to get things fixed under warranty. He's fortunate it worked out for him. Others might not be so lucky...
 
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Ahhhh, so you want to disregard that he ran stock plugs that weren't gapped properly with Map 2, didn't have his plugs torqued down properly, and also decided to run map 5 with E85 (max E30 is what Burger recommends). Nobody has to be an "expert tuner" to know that's not doing his engine any favors. If you'd be willing to use your car under those same scenarios, we can either prove or disprove my theory and see what happens. So let me know when you want to fill your Stinger up with E85, run map 5, and use stock plugs that aren't torqued down properly and we'll see what happens. Would that be proof enough for you?

Scott also painted the picture at the beginning that his car merely ever had a catback exhaust, and disregarded all the issues his car was previously suffering from and the mods that were on it.

Try this analogy: If someone didn't change their oil for the first 15,000 miles, then finally changed it every 5,000 miles after that, and then had engine problems at 30,000 miles, does it take an expert to think that his engine probably developed issues during those first 15,000 miles of neglect? That's essentially what happened here: His engine suffered neglect at his own hands, and he wants to act like he had nothing to do with it.

I think it should serve as a warning to folks not to mess with their cars if they don't understand what they are doing. Not everyone is going to get as lucky as the OP to have the dealer cover the repairs under warranty. Thanks for trying to make him feel better by defending him, but it's not doing anyone any favors. Let's learn from his mistakes, and discourage others from doing the same thing.
I didn't read any of that. Enjoy your crusade.
 
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