Sunroof Rattle Fix

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

What silicone is good?

 

[Sabs]

Do you have a pic?

Areas highlighted in yellow, plus around the rest of the perimeter of the glass.

I use this lubricant for a lot of things and it holds up well long term. It's not too runny so it stays put.

Silicone Lubricant Spray | WD-40 Water Resistant Silicone | WD-40

Waterproof and protect metal and non-metallic surfaces like rubber, plastic and vinyl with the water resistant silicone lubricant spray from WD-40. This spray is ideal for cables, valves, hinges and locks. The spray and straw allows you to apply two ways.

www.wd40.com

 

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

WD-40? Is that OK even though it has petroleum? Is there another product you all use?

 

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

Gone temporarily you mean....or will find out soon enough. Sorry.

Marc - have you gone to a dealer about this in Toronto or nearby? I'm around here too.

 

[djerickd]

WD-40? Is that OK even though it has petroleum? Is there another product you all use?

I use GPL-106.

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[Marc Collins]

Marc - have you gone to a dealer about this in Toronto or nearby? I'm around here too.

Yes, more than one. Same non-response from all of them.

 

[oddball]

WD-40? Is that OK even though it has petroleum? Is there another product you all use?

He's talking about a product by the WD-40 company - not the product WD-40. It's just a normal silicone spray. Many, many brands make them.
The WD-40 folks call "WD-40" a brand and a product, because the product name is so recognizable. Questionable in my mind - causes exactly this kind of confusion.

 

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

He's talking about a product by the WD-40 company - not the product WD-40. It's just a normal silicone spray. Many, many brands make them.
The WD-40 folks call "WD-40" a brand and a product, because the product name is so recognizable. Questionable in my mind - causes exactly this kind of confusion.

Wow. Thanks. I had NO IDEA. I'm also not the least bit handy.

 

[Grahamdini]

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Areas highlighted in yellow, plus around the rest of the perimeter of the glass.

I use this lubricant for a lot of things and it holds up well long term. It's not too runny so it stays put.

Joined to say thank you for the tip! I had a rattle develop and bought the wd40 silicone spray, applied it with a foam brush to the spots you outlined and the noise went away.

 

[RedCal]

Also great on door seals if you live in a climate where frozen doors are a possibility - I do it late in the fall every year

 

[7Andrei7]

I just did all my door seals and the sunroof seals + what @Sabs indicated above with WD40 Silicone spray. I used a whole can for the 4 doors and sunroof.
The first impression is that most of the rattles are gone. I could still hear a few pops with the headliner cover open. Let's see if it stays like this.
One question: does the WD40 silicone spray attack paint or glass or plastics? I tried to be as precise as possible but some definitely got on the nearby elements.

 

[RedCal]

I just did all my door seals and the sunroof seals + what @Sabs indicated above with WD40 Silicone spray. I used a whole can for the 4 doors and sunroof.
The first impression is that most of the rattles are gone. I could still hear a few pops with the headliner cover open. Let's see if it stays like this.
One question: does the WD40 silicone spray attack paint or glass or plastics? I tried to be as precise as possible but some definitely got on the nearby elements.

You don't need a lot, just spray some on a rag or paper towel and wipe down the rubber, it won't damage the paint, glass or plastics. It's also great for lubricating sliding door and window tracks around the house as well

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

Silicone spray won't damage paint or glass, but if you're planning on adding decals, custom paint, or applying a ceramic coating, or a PPF, be extremely careful about overspray because removing silicone from paint can be a real pain in the neck.

 

[Sabs]

Another update - silicone lubricant eliminated most of the noise, but I was still getting a ticking noise from the sunroof sometimes over small bumps.

Credit to Hein on one of the FB groups for this idea and the photos. This eliminated the ticking noise for me.

A metal protrusion underneath the sunroof glass rests in the pictured trough when closed.

When I pressed either front corner of the glass when the sunroof was closed, the noise could be heard.

Hein taped the upper metal piece below the glass, but that was too difficult for me to reach. I put foam tape inside of the trough to eliminate the noise after cleaning up the large amount of grease inside.

I don't think the foam tape will stay in place with repeated opening/closing, so I plan to use a thin fabric tape in the future instead of foam. I'll try either the sticky part of a fabric bandage or some bowler's tape.

 

[Kamauxx]

Another update - silicone lubricant eliminated most of the noise, but I was still getting a ticking noise from the sunroof sometimes over small bumps.

Credit to Hein on one of the FB groups for this idea and the photos. This eliminated the ticking noise for me.

A metal protrusion underneath the sunroof glass rests in the pictured trough when closed.

When I pressed either front corner of the glass when the sunroof was closed, the noise could be heard.

Hein taped the upper metal piece below the glass, but that was too difficult for me to reach. I put foam tape inside of the trough to eliminate the noise after cleaning up the large amount of grease inside.

I don't think the foam tape will stay in place with repeated opening/closing, so I plan to use a thin fabric tape in the future instead of foam. I'll try either the sticky part of a fabric bandage or some bowler's tape.

I used a little strip of Gorilla silicone and completely quieted that area.

 

[Marc Collins]

I used a little strip of Gorilla silicone and completely quieted that area.

The first thing I tried (2 years ago) was to use silicone gel in that area. Did not fix the problem.

 

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

The first thing I tried (2 years ago) was to use silicone gel in that area. Did not fix the problem.

And have you come up with anything since?

 

[Marc Collins]

And have you come up with anything since?

I have tried all the fixes on here. If you search my posts, you'll see the most (but not completely) successful attempt was to insert washers between the sunroof track and the roof (could only access the front ones without major surgery). The metal track and the metal body of the car are contacting each other, exacerbated by contraction/expansion (which is why it ticks and makes noise after the car has been sitting in the sun or when it is very cold and the climate system cools or heats the interior of the car).

The proper solution is for KIA to come-up with some form of durable rubber washers or gasket that fits between the roof tracks and the car. They'll never bother.

 

[DougWilsonsSlapper]

I have tried all the fixes on here. If you search my posts, you'll see the most (but not completely) successful attempt was to insert washers between the sunroof track and the roof (could only access the front ones without major surgery). The metal track and the metal body of the car are contacting each other, exacerbated by contraction/expansion (which is why it ticks and makes noise after the car has been sitting in the sun or when it is very cold and the climate system cools or heats the interior of the car).

The proper solution is for KIA to come-up with some form of durable rubber washers or gasket that fits between the roof tracks and the car. They'll never bother.

I'm going to a dealer tomorrow, and so was hoping to show something. Will look.

 

[Marc Collins]

I'm going to a dealer tomorrow, and so was hoping to show something. Will look.

If your dealer is different from all the others and is actually willing to do something, please let us all know who it is