Ripping CD and Formatting for Stinger Media Player

Merlin Am I not getting what you are asking? I rip my cd's to a usb stick and play one song right after another....no spaces or nuthin.....or am I not understanding what you need? :) Wash
 
Not that I know of.

My original question remains: how can we play albums that have seamless tracking without the Stinger's media player inserting the pauses/gaps between tracks?
I believe this is up to the ripping software, not the player. The player simply sees it as multiple tracks. iTunes is probably your most dependable route. It's a cumbersome application that will add items to Windows startup. Don't be afraid to completely uninstall it once it's done what you need to have done. It's a great tool to back up an iPhone and/or iPad, though!
 
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Hummm, everybody wants to go to heaven without dying.

If you want something not standard, you will have to do some work. Nero is my goto program for CD ripping, yes it is annoying and takes over parts of your computer if you let it. iTunes is another option, I don't use it, but it works in iOS too so that would be a plus. when I did use iTunes, think I do remember it had an option to eliminate silence.

I use a sandisk MP3 player on long flights and it has an option to eliminate silent space.
it would be nice if KIA would upgrade the OEM player software to delete silence like MP3Players.

BTW, I too don't have issues with just copying the files from previous ripping onto a USB stick and playing in my Stinger.

Sorry, No free lunch :)
 
BTW, a CD contains multiple files, one for each track, you rip the files into a folder.
 
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Merlin Am I not getting what you are asking? I rip my cd's to a usb stick and play one song right after another....no spaces or nuthin.....or am I not understanding what you need? :) Wash
I rip to Windows Music. The computer plays albums that have seamless tracking without inserting breaks between the tracks. When I take these files to the USB stick and play them in the Stinger, I get breaks between the tracks where none exist on the CD or when playing the ripped files on the computer. (Interestingly, as I mentioned on the other thread, last time I played Alan Parson directly from the CD on the computer, it inserted breaks!? But the ripped files played back without breaks. Eh?)
iTunes does this.

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The Microsoft reviews of iTunes average 3 stars. The bad reviews are really, really bad. I don't think I want to hassle this route. Thanks anyway.
I believe this is up to the ripping software, not the player. The player simply sees it as multiple tracks. iTunes is probably your most dependable route. It's a cumbersome application that will add items to Windows startup. Don't be afraid to completely uninstall it once it's done what you need to have done. It's a great tool to back up an iPhone and/or iPad, though!
As I described above, the player seems to be a deciding factor: even the media interfacing with the player makes a difference: else why would listening directly from the CD be different from listening from ripped files on the computer?
 
Right on target, the player is doing the work, and the KIA player is not doing it. So, if what you want is seamless transition, you will have to do it with editing or maybe use a MP3 player as AUX or Bluetooth.
 
(Interestingly, as I mentioned on the other thread, last time I played Alan Parson directly from the CD on the computer, it inserted breaks!? But the ripped files played back without breaks. Eh?)
Experimenting further with this: I have listened countless times to my CD of Also Sprach Zarathustra and not till a couple of days ago did I notice that there actually 11, count 'em 11, TRACKS to that thing. Other than the famous opening, and of course the one break in the middle (which was a convenient break on the LP recording of yesteryear), there is NO break to the entire thing: until I listen to it in the Stinger: I just put this on the USB yesterday, and listened to it for the first time in the Stinger just now: breaks every c. two to four minutes! Grrr!!! The breaks are nowhere near two or even one second; more like half a second, but palpable still the same. A break/pause is just that, regardless of how long it is, if you can hear it.

I come back inside and put the CD on my computer (I've never listened to this CD on my computer till now): no breaks; just seamless flow. Lovely.

Until this issue with the Stinger, inserting breaks between tracks where no breaks exist anywhere else, I had no idea that Also Sprach Zarathustra was actually split into "tracks" by the composer with names to each piece. Weird. This is what clueless feels like. :rolleyes:

Of course, the ripped files version in Windows Music also plays seamlessly. Some player called "Groove Music" (I never asked for it to be on my machine) also plays the ripped tracks seamlessly (although I did hear a faint "snap" between some tracks, but without the slightest pause; I don't think I could live with that either, waiting for the "snaps"; it would be like tensing for getting poked or slapped).
 
More: I just put in Alan Parsons, Eye in the Sky, again. The CD produces no breaks this morning on the Windows Media Player (I am less than sure, anymore, that the CD was producing breaks two days ago, heh; I know I heard palpable breaks from the CD, I'm just not sure why, since this morning the breaks are not there when sourcing the CD via Windows Media Player; however, the VLC player does insert breaks on the CD sourced playback, but the breaks are extremely small.

So, I do need an easy, secure way to rip seamlessly, so I can rerip those albums, that are unlistenable with breaks, as single files; e.g. Songs of Distant Earth; Every Good Boy Deserves Favor; most other Moody Blues; Richard Strauss (heh!).
 
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As promised, seamless file of ABBA songs (a little sloppy in cutting) created in Audacity, free, no taking over computer etc.:) http://demo.webstervid.com/ABBA - Seamless - 10.wav (Note, will take some time to download-be patient) However, I created it in a much too high bit rate, but that started me thinking, the El Cheapo media player in the Stinger will probably reject any combined track as "File Too Large" anyway, so as MerlinTheMad has concluded, the player is the issue. KIA probably figures everyone will use their mobile device as player anyway, Spotify, Pandora etc.
 
KIA probably figures everyone will use their mobile device as player anyway, Spotify, Pandora etc.
That is so lame, if that is the case. There won't be any upgrading with a software update. I hadn't even thought of "file too big" rejection. Heh! That's a new wrinkle I can "look forward to". :rolleyes:
 
That is so lame, if that is the case. There won't be any upgrading with a software update. I hadn't even thought of "file too big" rejection. Heh! That's a new wrinkle I can "look forward to". :rolleyes:

There won't be without a lot of customers complaining about the sub-standard quality player...that by the way can't even play an album in album order unless browsing by "Files." Can you tell me anyone, ever, who was listening to any album that wanted it in alphabetical order and not the order it was recorded in? Who tests these things?!?!
 
There won't be without a lot of customers complaining about the sub-standard quality player...that by the way can't even play an album in album order unless browsing by "Files." Can you tell me anyone, ever, who was listening to any album that wanted it in alphabetical order and not the order it was recorded in? Who tests these things?!?!
Slow on the uptake here. I've been reading about "alphabetical order" and thought, what's the problem? Don't most people want their albums listed in alphabetical order? You give each album the name it came with, or you change it to suit; and the player plays from an alphabetized list, in order if you don't step in and select something. But you're not saying that at all. If I am understanding you, the player takes the individually titled tracks within a single album and scrambles them to be alphabetized? What happened to the numerical designation at the beginning of each track? I've never seen the player in the Stinger do what you are complaining about. But my only source is USB stick. It is duplicated from "Music" on my computer and plays in exactly the same order as copied to the stick.
 
Slow on the uptake here. I've been reading about "alphabetical order" and thought, what's the problem? Don't most people want their albums listed in alphabetical order? You give each album the name it came with, or you change it to suit; and the player plays from an alphabetized list, in order if you don't step in and select something. But you're not saying that at all. If I am understanding you, the player takes the individually titled tracks within a single album and scrambles them to be alphabetized? What happened to the numerical designation at the beginning of each track? I've never seen the player in the Stinger do what you are complaining about. But my only source is USB stick. It is duplicated from "Music" on my computer and plays in exactly the same order as copied to the stick.

Yes, the songs, despite having filenames that start with the track number, sort in alphabetical order unless you browse the albums using the "Files" method in the player.

Speculation is that might relate to the format of the USB stick, the size of the USB stick, the format of the music, etc. All BS, because the music plays. The only issue is differential sort orders including one that no one would want to use. It's a simple software glitch with the player that should have been fixed before the car was released, or during any one of the subsequent UVO updates.
 
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It's a simple software glitch with the player that should have been fixed before the car was released, or during any one of the subsequent UVO updates.
But clearly not a universal problem, since I haven't run into anything of the sort. All my albums play in original recorded order. My USB stick is a few years old, however. Could the newer sticks have different formatting or some other difference that is incompatible with the player in the Stinger?
 
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But clearly not a universal problem, since I haven't run into anything of the sort. All my albums play in original recorded order. My USB stick is a few years old, however. Could the newer sticks have different formatting or some other difference that is incompatible with the player in the Stinger?

Problems that escape QA/QC are rarely universal (obviously).

You have tried browsing and then playing music via all options (Artist, Album, etc.)? If they all work properly, you are the lucky one who happened to hit the right combination of USB stick size, format and music recording format. As soon as the stars do not align, the system fails.

If the player can play the files, it should be able to sort the files. It's not more complicated than that. I'm far from the only one with issues.

I would also point out that I have a mix of lossless music (99%) in two formats and a few regular MP3s (1%) in my large collection. Player can play all of them, but with a maddeningly inconsistent approach to displaying album art.
 
Problems that escape QA/QC are rarely universal (obviously).

You have tried browsing and then playing music via all options (Artist, Album, etc.)? If they all work properly, you are the lucky one who happened to hit the right combination of USB stick size, format and music recording format. As soon as the stars do not align, the system fails.

If the player can play the files, it should be able to sort the files. It's not more complicated than that. I'm far from the only one with issues.

I would also point out that I have a mix of lossless music (99%) in two formats and a few regular MP3s (1%) in my large collection. Player can play all of them, but with a maddeningly inconsistent approach to displaying album art.
This conversation has made me aware of two things: how "one trick pony" I am about listening to my USB sourced music - I only select off the alphabetized master list; and, now I am leery of trying any other "browsing" options. I might awaken the beast and, once awakened, my system will stop behaving itself! :P
 
This conversation has made me aware of two things: how "one trick pony" I am about listening to my USB sourced music - I only select off the alphabetized master list; and, now I am leery of trying any other "browsing" options. I might awaken the beast and, once awakened, my system will stop behaving itself! :p

Trying the other options won't prevent you from going back to the way you are doing it now. It should have also preceded you replying that sorting works in your car. Please try all the browse options and report back.
 
The best ripping tool is ExactAudioCopy. It rips track then actually calculates a fingerprint for the track to compare to other users. This is ideal for ripping potentially damaged discs.

You can rip the entire CD as one file if you want. It supports multiple encoding options, mp3, flac, etc.
 
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