RaceChip unleashes true potential of the Kia Stinger GT (and future GTR)

[SEA Stinger]

Sure, if you are in a competition to build the highest peak HP car for the least amount of money the HP/$ is a very important metric. However I don’t think any of us are doing that.

When looking at power adding mods the peak HP gain is the “marketing number” but that’s only a small part of the power equation. How the entire HP and TQ line moves is important. If the peak HP moves by 20hp but only at 6k rpm then you’ll only see that increase in very rare situations. But another mod gives you 10hp through the entire power band where you will see it all the time. If they cost the same amount, which one is better? I say the 10hp mod but it doesn’t have the better “HP/$” metric.

Beyond HP, mods like an intake, exhaust are about more than just HP. Look at the number of posts about drone on exhausts, people care about the sound just as much if not more than the power increase. Intakes generally will improve throttle response as well as help other “air flow” mods (intake, turbo, downpipe, exhaust).

Then there are mods that don’t even add power but make the car faster. Suspension, tires, brakes.

Edit: One other example I forgot about, intercoolers. Once a good one is developed it will probabaly be about $1k and advertise 10-15 HP gains. Has a terrible HP/$ metric but will be vital for anyone that wants peak HP after more than 5min of running hard in 80+ degree temps. It’s not a mod about making power it’s about retaining power.

Again my point was that trying to use HP/$ is pointless, even more so when the HP and $ numbers used aren’t right.

Thank you; the information you have provided is helpful.

 

[RaceChip]

When looking at power adding mods the peak HP gain is the “marketing number” but that’s only a small part of the power equation. How the entire HP and TQ line moves is important. If the peak HP moves by 20hp but only at 6k rpm then you’ll only see that increase in very rare situations. But another mod gives you 10hp through the entire power band where you will see it all the time.

Thank you for this great statement. Unfortunately, people always look at this number. Of course, it is also the fault of the company marketing those numbers, but that's how it works. The performance at lower rpms is much more important. The same with the torque. Most people are just looking at the HP, but it is the torque that they feel when accelerating. I wish people would care more about their feeling and emotions while driving the car than only plain numbers.

We always experience this when we are talking about our throttle tuning XLR. People can't imagine which difference the product makes. It does not add horsepower, but the car will feel more powerful, because it directly responses. You can't understand it without having experienced it.

If it does what it says it will be the cheapest performance mod for the car, costing about 13-15 dollars per horsepower (compared to a K&N intake costing about 100 dollars per horsepower or a complete exhaust costing about 50 dollars per horsepower).

I'm glad there are a couple of Stinger heros willing to try it out for the rest of us. It may turn out to be the best go-fast mod we can buy.

I also want to thank you for your statement. Cheaper is not always better, but RaceChip really offers a lot of value for money. I am looking forward to the feedback of the first buyers.

 

[Vaoh]

One of the things I'd be really interested in learning is how much extra boost does this setup create? That extra 120 ft.lbs is a great leap, but creating that at the same RPM as the stock peak torque figure leaves me a bit, maybe doubtful of the dyno figure. Of course, at some point we'll be seeing independent dyno tests, hopefully with both RWD and AWD models as I know the Germans only got AWD (I think it's a shame you guys miss out on the RWD model.) So it'll be interesting to see how this system works with the RWD GT models.

 

[RaceChip]

So I did some reading on RaceChip. It seems kind of hit and miss. One individual saw zero gains (through dyno) with the most expensive RaceChip on his Mini Cooper. Others report better 0-60 times. Interestingly, I see no dyno charts on racechips website for the Stinger.

I would not say that it is a hit and miss. In the past, it was just not always a first shot bullseye. Sometimes the factory models have some variations from stock so that the product needs to be adapted (therefore we have the different mappings and the app). In our previous model generation, we had rotary switches to do so. This was a little bit too complicated for some customers (it was necessary to open the product and change the position of the switches – very inconvenient and a chance for errors). Of course, some engines do not have much potential for tuning. We do not add such engines to our online shop.

Most issues are caused by wrong installation. In this case, we need our customers to let us help them. If not, they have a bad customer experience, which is bad for our reputation.

You will find the dyno chart in the very first post of this thread. Furthermore, you can see it on following page: RaceChip News | RaceChip unleashes true potential of the Kia Stinger GT

 

[RaceChip]

The policy works as return for any reason within 14 days of recieving product. Full refund of product and shipping (which atm is free shipping). After that up to 30 days you get full refund of product, but you are responsible for the return shipping.
This is my interpretation of the terms of service. (I actually read the whole thing)

Haha, that is a really boring and heavy going text.
The reason for this text is following. In the European Union you must by law provide a 14 days money back guarantee when selling anything commercially via the internet. You also must put a obligatory standard text regarding this right in your terms on conditions. If you then want to expand this period to 30 days, because you want to offer good customer service, you must add a second text regarding this service. You are not allowed to just change the 14 to 30, because the law is about 14 days...
When we launched the racechip.us page last year (before that an independent reseller was serving the US market), we gave this text to a lawyer and told him to translate it to US legislation. To my suprise he did not write a short text about this return policy, but left the existing text alsmost unchanged, because it was also suitable for US law.

You can return for any reason within 30 days of recieving the product. There is no restocking fee.
However, you must pay the shipping costs. It is smart to contact us, because we have a deal with UPS for lower shipping costs. If there is an issue, we'll find a solution. If the product, does not work and we can't fix it, we organize the shipping.

 

[RaceChip]

That's awesome news, Sal.

Can you give us some insight on how the 30 day return works? Say someone is unsatisfied with it, will the return be handled/refunded by you or by the HQ in Germany?

I haven't figured that out yet. I'm taking things one step at a time and the first step is to have the ability to purchase the product. Once I can get that ball rolling and get a few headed to the U.S., I'll figure out what will work best. At this point I don't even have a clue how much it sells for. Communication is slow...

I'm sorry for the slow communication. It think our reseller department is waiting for an internal confirmation about the date.
End-customers have a 30 days money back guarantee when ordering on racechip.us
Before ordering from a reseller you must ensure, that he will provide a 30 days money back guarantee, too. We encourage them to do so, but we can't enforce it. We also can't accept any returns of products we didn't sell. The return is handeled between the customer and the reseller. Of course our support is glad to always help you if there is an issue (we have a customer support and a reseller support).

 

[Kamauxx]

@DaJackson, could you please explain what you mean about missing the point of buying mods

Most important thing to remember is that it is your car. Let no one tell you what is and isn't important for you to do with your money to your car. That isn't how things work in the part of the world where we don't refer to each other as "comrade".

If "bang for your buck" is important to you nobody can tell you that you are "missing the point of why you're modding your car". I don't care if you decide to put a 3 inch body lift and 33 inch mud terrains on your Stinger. It's your Stinger. (post pics! )

If a comrade tells you that you're missing the point of why you're modding your car just relish in the fact that you don't live in North Korea/Cuba with him.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

Currently, we ship directly from Germany. We use the express shipping of UPS, so delivery usually takes 3-5 business days. You do not have to bear any costs for shipping or customs duties.

Ty for the info.

And for your continued support hrre

 

[Never thought]

I would not say that it is a hit and miss. In the past, it was just not always a first shot bullseye. Sometimes the factory models have some variations from stock so that the product needs to be adapted (therefore we have the different mappings and the app). In our previous model generation, we had rotary switches to do so. This was a little bit too complicated for some customers (it was necessary to open the product and change the position of the switches – very inconvenient and a chance for errors). Of course, some engines do not have much potential for tuning. We do not add such engines to our online shop.

Most issues are caused by wrong installation. In this case, we need our customers to let us help them. If not, they have a bad customer experience, which is bad for our reputation.

You will find the dyno chart in the very first post of this thread. Furthermore, you can see it on following page: RaceChip News | RaceChip unleashes true potential of the Kia Stinger GT

Thx for the info. I, like many others, only have access to 91 octane and not 93. What gains could be expected only with 91 octane?

 

[Weareblondi]

Like was previously stated, it is your own car, you make the decisions. We, as car owners and enthusiasts, make the conscious decision to modify our cars ourselves. Racechip isn't holding a baseball bat to your knees, but neither are they saying that gold coins will shoot out of your exhaust tips. I had the same problem years ago with my Volvo R's. Two companies, ipd and Rica, offered tunes. One was a slow build with hp gains much lower than the other, but was more useable. The other was a hero tune, massive gains in the upper reaches. Bought the hero tune. Grenaded the engine, but it was spectacular. Now, did I contact that company? No. The reason is, it stated it was for off road use only. Personally, if you knowingly buy the mod, knowing it isn't street legal, or that you had to drive at 10k rpm to see the gains, you cannot honestly tell me you are going to complain. Like buying those bazooka exhausts for an extra 10 hp then complain that it is loud. My reasoning might be flawed, but, it is from personal experience. I have already contacted the person who will be the reseller, and am waiting to purchase the mod. I will gladly install it because someone has to be one of the first to try them. 1st exhaust mod, 1st to 500hp, etc. Oops, fell off of my soapbox.

 

[DaJackson]

If a comrade tells you that you're missing the point of why you're modding your car just relish in the fact that you don't live in North Korea/Cuba with him.

Wait did you just compare my comments to living in North Korea/Cuba? Ha that’s entertaining.

 

[Duce_13]

Mine is shipping from the US and it says scheduled for monday delivery.

It is shipping from Germany. I saw the town name with DE and assume Delaware. Lol

 

[Kia Stinger]

It is shipping from Germany. I saw the town name with DE and assume Delaware. Lol

Well, they WILL be shipping from Florida very soon.

 

[Duce_13]

Well, they WILL be shipping from Florida very soon.

Good to know Sal. Mine will be here tomorrow so i hope to install this thing Tuesday and give my initial impression.

 

[Kia Stinger]

Good to know Sal. Mine will be here tomorrow so i hope to install this thing Tuesday and give my initial impression.

It'll be great to read a seat of the pants review!

 

[stingeradmr]

Derek how do I send a private message to you

 

[SEA Stinger]

Racechip isn't holding a baseball bat to your knees, but neither are they saying that gold coins will shoot out of your exhaust tips.

Dang, having gold coins shooting out my exhaust tips sounded good!

 

[Kia Stinger]

Derek how do I send a private message to you

Click on his username or avatar and select "Start a conversation". If the options isn't available for you yet - it will be soon...

 

[RaceChip]

Thx for the info. I, like many others, only have access to 91 octane and not 93. What gains could be expected only with 91 octane?

I it is difficult to answer this question, because many factors might influence it. I would not be surprised if it would be 10 hp less.

 

[Kamauxx]

Good to know Sal. Mine will be here tomorrow so i hope to install this thing Tuesday and give my initial impression.

I'm sure you're pretty anxious right now. Hell, I'm excited for you and I won't even get to experience it.

Can't wait to read your impressions.